Hinge Of Fate Game - Edelweiss

The Italian Air Force bombed Palermo without the aid of recon, so I'm not sure of the results. I saw two hits, a lost population point, and a marketplace lost after 6 sorties.

GPS to the USA.
 
AnthonyBoscia said:
The Italian Air Force bombed Palermo without the aid of recon, so I'm not sure of the results. I saw two hits, a lost population point, and a marketplace lost after 6 sorties.

GPS to the USA.
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Bombing a MARKETPLACE you brutal dictator!! :eek: I don't think we can spare mercy on the stray animals in your crumbling empire after that!!!:mad:
 
aksully said:
RULES Clarification

I was looking at the rules and descriptions for Nature Units especially the water units and don't see at what times they are to be active?

Eric can you post here the months;

Gales
Typhoons
Hurricanes

are active and when they should be disbanded. Also I would suggest unit changes for these units if you are continuing revisions.
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For reference, here's the post from Totalize:

eric_A said:
Rules for Nature Units:

Hurricane Season in the Atlantic:
Starts in June and lasts until the end of November.
Any hurricanes generated out of season must stay in
port until the season begins. Once a hurricane leaves port
it may not return to port. Any hurricanes left on the map
in December must be disbanded.

Typhoon Season in the Pacific/Indian:
Starts in November and lasts until the end of April.
Any Typhoons generated out of season must stay in
port until the season begins. Once a Typhoon leaves port
it may not return to port. Any Typhoons left on the map
in May must be disbanded.

Gales:
Can occur any time of year but are most common in winter (Dec to March).
They can travel anywhere on the map ( any sea tile, they can't travel on land ).
Once a gale leaves a port it can never return.
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aksully said:
The Gales Typhoons Hurricanes should automatically have a one month life expectancy not several months as currently designed. ANd when these storms attack once there gone! Same with Sandstorms. One storm, one month life expectancy.

The land units should have a one attack then disband if that is possible or if you want these units then make them immobile after the Nature Player places then on Turn 1. There has to be some revisions on these units.

Thanks for listening.
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I'll note that a one-month life expectancy would make them need a movement of like 100 -- otherwise you'd have a tiny radius of appearance around the Nature cities.

As for land units, making them like Cruise Missiles could work...but I don't agree about making them immobile; crafty players would simply avoid the Nature tiles (you can find them in the .biq).
 
Nuclear bomb drops on the German Uranium source!

4 ASW DDs redline Fighter in Bordeaux
5th ASW DD kills it

Bordeaux:
MB pings FD
MB pings Inf Div

P38 redlines Marine Div near Koln
HB shot down
HB destroys rail
P38 shoots down interceptor
HB destroys roads
2 HBs redline 44 Korps near Paris
ASW Aircraft destroys roads N-NE of Paris
HB shoots down interceptor near Kiel


Med-
US BB shells Pinerolo Div, redlining it
CLAA Atlanta hits Messina Air Def
ASW DD pings unknown air unit in Naples

Marine Div kills Pinerolo Div, no damage
Marine Div kills Messina Air Def, no damage
Plane killed on the ground

Road N of Naples bombed
Rail N of Marseille bombed

ASW DD sinks in a gale SE from Halifax!

(oops, I didn't stop hitting the move key soon enough :cry:)

Pacific-
ASW Aircraft hits DD in Manila
ASW Aircraft kills citizens

Avenger hits Infantry S of Osaka
US CA destroys rails NE-E from Osaka
Devastator destroys roads there
P38 destroys roads 2N of Tokyo
 
Elephantium said:
For reference, here's the post from Totalize:









I'll note that a one-month life expectancy would make them need a movement of like 100 -- otherwise you'd have a tiny radius of appearance around the Nature cities.

As for land units, making them like Cruise Missiles could work...but I don't agree about making them immobile; crafty players would simply avoid the Nature tiles (you can find them in the .biq).
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Thanks E for pulling that out for me. I had deleted all the totalize links. Much appreciated!!!

And I'm just trying to stimulate some discussion on Nature sea units in general. But the sea units as designed have unlimited life for months, move in unnatural movement patterns, and continue to have the ability to make multiple landfall(bombarding) for months. I suggest that at least that once a Gale, typhoon or hurricane bombards a coastal time that it is then disbanded.

As to the land units...all Dengue Fever and malaria units be confined to jungle tiles. And not be allowed to occupy road/rail tiles. Also may not attack cities though colonies okay.
 
Paotow:
FA destroys walls
FA damages ID 2/4
FA missed

3T SE of Peking:
ID 4/4 vs guerilla

1T E of Palembang:
Brit CLAA sunk by 2 kamikaze

2T NE of Rangoon
Sherman tank corp redlined by MB TB & HB
FA and MB missed
IC 6/6 vs Sherman tank corp

5T NE of Saigon:
US sub damaged by B7a
DD 5/5 vs sub

6T E of Nagasaki:
B7a missed US ASW DD
BB 3/4 vs ASW DD

S of Canton:
MB, BB, 2 B7a & DB all missed
Army reduced to 7/13 by
2 DB, 2 MB, HB

NE of Ichang:
HB damages IC 4/6
 
aksully said:

As to the land units...all Dengue Fever and malaria units be confined to jungle tiles. And not be allowed to occupy road/rail tiles. Also may not attack cities though colonies okay.
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That last point is already in the rules although I don't think it's followed very well :nono:
 
Regarding request for changes, let's look at Hurricanes as an example.

In the game there is only one Hurricane source and it produces 2 storms per year.

In the real world, there is an average of 6.5 hurricanes and 12 tropical storms in
the North Atlantic each year. So If I made "attack only once" hurricane units, there
would have to a lot more of them per year. The best way to do it would probably
to make them a cruise missile unit, but I'm not sure if this is possible for a sea
unit. I could make them an air unit like the kamikaze, with a very long range.
But then nature would need some kind of scouting units in order to find targets
at sea.
 
Hey guys I was going to do the turn last night but started some new meds last night and decided to get some rest and let it take effect.

I can play the German turn tonight as long as these steroids they got me on don't mess me up to much.

Sorry for the delay and thanks for the patience!
 
GPS to Allies


March 1944 German Turn Report

Northeast of Tobruk
Fighter-bomber->Shoots Down Fighter
4/4 U-Boat vs 3/3 CW Transport=2/4 U-Boat

East of Malta
F.T.->Miss
Fighter-bomber->Hit 2/3 BB Valiant
4/4 CLAA Stier vs 2/3 BB Valiant=2/5 Stier

North of Malta
Fighter-bomber->Miss
FW-190->Miss

7 Tiles West of Brest
3/3 U-88 vs 4/4 FT Beverley=2/4 U-88
(Ship Falsely named DD Beverley)

North of Oslo
H.B.->Miss
DD->Miss
CA Hipper->Hit 4/6 CW Tank Corp
H.B.->Hit 3/6 CW Tank Corp
H.B.->Hit 1/6 CW Tank Corp
4/4 Mech Inf Div vs 1/6 CW Tank Corp=4/4 Mech Inf Div

Northwest of Oslo
3/3 163 Inf Div vs 4/4 Resistance Fighter=3/3 163 Inf Div

3-Tiles East & 1-Tile Southwest of Oslo
4/4 U-Boat vs 4/4 ASW DD Enfield=3/4 U-Boat

4-Tiles West of Oslo
4/4 U-Boat vs 4/4 CW ASW DD=1/4 ASW DD

Southeast of Hamburg
7/7 PTC vs 4/4 Resistance Fighter=7/7 PTC

West of Gorki
FW-190->Miss
Fighter-bomber->Hit 2/4 T-34 TC
16/23 5th Panzer Army vs 2/4 T-34 TC=16/23 5th Panzer Army

North of Gorki
Fighter-bomber->Hit Destroys Rail
H.B.->Hit Destroys Road
H.B.->Hit Destroys Radar

Vologda
20/23 4th Panzer Army vs 3/3 22nd Army/I=20/23 4th Panzer Army
5/5 18th Panzergrenadier Div vs 2/2 NKVD=3/5 18th Panzergrenadier Div Yak-3 Destroyed
Vologda is Captured

2Tiles North of Vologda Worker Captured


South of Gorki
8/8 41 Panzer Korps vs 3/3 Moscow Air Defense=8/8 41 Panzer Korps

3 Tiles East of Sverdlousk
H.A.->Hit 1/3 SRC
5/5 PTD vs 1/3 SRC=4/5 PTD

East of Sverdlovsk
Stuka->Miss
Fighter-bomber-> Hit Destroys Rail
 
GPS


March 1944

Road between Stalingrad and Maikop bombarded with 3 med bombers

Near Sverdlovsk Panther tank div drops to 3/5 by FA

Black Sea Navy deals damage to cavalry defending Sevastopol
 
Have the save and will play the MAllies turn tomorrow! Winter has arrived in Nebraska very suddenly! Spent the day winterizing! :snowcool:


Update....Been hit by a cold today...If I get worse and can't do the turn tomorrow then I will pass it along to E to play. I'll see how I feel tomorrow. Thanks guys! Sully
 
Near Saigon
-B25 Destroys Road 3 Ts NE of city

@Hankow
-2 Hvy Arty and B25 Damage units in city

@Sian
-Ftr & B25 Shot Down by Fighters

@Athens
-BB BC AACL 3 DDs Bombard city and damage ships in port

GPS to CW.....will play turn and will forward to Minor Axis tomorrow evening!
 
North Sea Area
-4/4 DD vs 3/4 UBoat 7 Ts SW of Narvik> 3/4 DD

Near Oslo
-Swordfish Redlines C.Def
-3/3 Mar Div vs C.Def> 4/4 Mar Div
-BB damages unit in city
-Swordfish Destroys Airfield in city
-DD damages ship in port
-Swordfish damages fighter
-2 HBombers damages units in city
-6/6 Tank Corps vs Ft Div> 1/6 TC

Mid Atlantic Trench
-FTrans vs UBoat>3/3 FTrans

MED

@ Athens
-BB SINKS Ship in port
-HBmr SHOT DOWN over city
-HBmr damages unit in city

Near Alexandria
-FArty Redlines a UBoat
-4/4 ASW DD vs UBoat> 4/4 DD

Burma Area

@Rangoon
-B25 SHOT DOWN over city
-BB Redlines Para Div
-CLAA Redline Militia
-4/6 Marine Corps vs 1/4 Para> 2/6 MC
-6/6 Mar Corps vs FArty > 6/6 MC
-6/6 Mar Corps vs FArty> 6/7 MC
-3/4 Mar Div vs SOME Unit>? I somehow didn't list the specifics on who and what!! Sorry Eric! :confused:

GPS to AB
 
Where do I begin...

OK, first I had to reload the game. I just restored my computer to factory condition and have been rebuilding it. I downloaded HoF and went to play my turn. Unfortunately, there was no sound, and the game only got to the screens where you choose your city build before it crashed. Turns out I failed to install Conquests using compatibility mode and also failed to install the 1.22 patch properly. After that getting corrected, I reloaded the game. No moves had been made so there were no changes to gameplay.

Mussolini (I'm blaming him) ordered a massive airstrike against Palermo. Convinced that this strategy had hindered the Allies in the past, all military sense was ignored on this dubious venture. It was a turkey shoot for the Americans.
  • Ju-88 shot down
  • Ju-88 shot down
  • Stuka kills 1 citizen. Woo-hoo our own people!
  • Stuka shot down
  • Stuka destroys courthouse. That'll show 'em.
  • Stuka hits a BB 3/3 to 1/3
  • Stuka shot down
  • Stuka hits a cruiser, looks like CLAA Atlanta maybe? 4/4 to 2/4
Ju-88 wisely avoids Sicily and bombs US Marines in southern Italy, 5/5 to 2/5

After two months of deceptive measures and operating under strict radio silence, an Italian transport fleet escorted by BC Vittorio and the last remaining CL Cardona launch an brilliant surprise attack on Oran!

CL Cardona bombards Oran, hits a transport 4/4 to 2/4
Vittorio's guns open up on Oran, hit another transport 4/4 to 2/4
Italian Marine Corps leads the assault on the beaches, where they are met by recuperating US mechanized forces. 6/6 MC vs. 3/4 Mech Div, 1/6 MC
2nd Italian 6/6 MC vs. 4/4 US Infantry division, 3/4 US inf div
Italian fleet retreats. I unloaded the wounded MC into Spain before realizing that this may have been an illegal move. If it is, I can disband it next turn.

GPS to the USA.
 
AnthonyBoscia said:
Where do I begin...

OK, first I had to reload the game. I just restored my computer to factory condition and have been rebuilding it. I downloaded HoF and went to play my turn. Unfortunately, there was no sound, and the game only got to the screens where you choose your city build before it crashed. Turns out I failed to install Conquests using compatibility mode and also failed to install the 1.22 patch properly. After that getting corrected, I reloaded the game. No moves had been made so there were no changes to gameplay.

Mussolini (I'm blaming him) ordered a massive airstrike against Palermo. Convinced that this strategy had hindered the Allies in the past, all military sense was ignored on this dubious venture. It was a turkey shoot for the Americans.
  • Ju-88 shot down
  • Ju-88 shot down
  • Stuka kills 1 citizen. Woo-hoo our own people!
  • Stuka shot down
  • Stuka destroys courthouse. That'll show 'em.
  • Stuka hits a BB 3/3 to 1/3
  • Stuka shot down
  • Stuka hits a cruiser, looks like CLAA Atlanta maybe? 4/4 to 2/4
Ju-88 wisely avoids Sicily and bombs US Marines in southern Italy, 5/5 to 2/5

After two months of deceptive measures and operating under strict radio silence, an Italian transport fleet escorted by BC Vittorio and the last remaining CL Cardona launch an brilliant surprise attack on Oran!

CL Cardona bombards Oran, hits a transport 4/4 to 2/4
Vittorio's guns open up on Oran, hit another transport 4/4 to 2/4
Italian Marine Corps leads the assault on the beaches, where they are met by recuperating US mechanized forces. 6/6 MC vs. 3/4 Mech Div, 1/6 MC
2nd Italian 6/6 MC vs. 4/4 US Infantry division, 3/4 US inf div
Italian fleet retreats. I unloaded the wounded MC into Spain before realizing that this may have been an illegal move. If it is, I can disband it next turn.

GPS to the USA.
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Here's the implication of your Rouge wounded MC unit AB...Spain and Gibraltar:
Allied forces are restricted to Gibraltar and cannot enter the surrounding Spanish territory unless the Axis enter Spain. If the Axis enter Spain then the Allies can move through Spain without restriction. OH MY AB :D!!!
 
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