When the game first was announced, I dragged my heels getting it because of the Steam activation. Then after reading all of the dissatisfaction by the hardcore players with the game, and about how much had been cut from Civ 4, I decided that it wasn't for me. It just seemed too dumbed down for my liking. I wanted something even more complex than Civ 4, not less. No health, no religion, no tech trading, empire wide happiness, even no ocean transports made me feel that too much had been removed from what I considered an excellent game. But it's been awhile now since the game has been out, and I see there's yet another expansion on the way, so how do people feel about the game these days? Especially those players that have been playing the game since the Civ 1 or 2 days. Is it worth considering now, or should I still stick with Civ 4?