Orthodoxy should be added and Judaism and Confucianism should be reinstated. maybe some sort of northern European Wicca thing could be added? or something representing the Aztec/Mayan beliefs?
Maybe one of the JARM religions is good.
if you have lots of religons make sure the diplo penalty's aren't all over harsh or trade will be almost impossible around the middle ages.
Or better, make the AI smarter. For example, England is Buddhist and has 1 Buddhist city and 1 Islam city. Everyone in Europe however, is Islam.
Why not have it represent South Asia?I would defend the Mughal Empire as a reasonable rebirth; however, I realized that India needs space for colonization. I think a normal respawn OR a rebirth as the (British/Portuguese/Whatever) Raj -> modern India would work. Let me explain.
The Raj would be a unique playable nation, as it would spawn in 1860 as a vassal to the most prominent nation in India, be it Portugal, Britain, the Netherlands, France or even Iran or Khmer. It would spawn over Delhi and Mumbai and be given one city of its masters' within India. The Raj would have to meet the demands of its master and fight the wars of its master, and would be unable to declare independence. Then in the 20s-30s, the Raj would declare independence automatically (lacks a certain truthiness, I know) and declare war upon its owner state. Along with this date, the name would change, the leader would change to Gandhi (or it would be Gandhi the whole time, it depends on leaderhead availability), and two great people would spawn: Great Artist Rabindranath Tagore and Great General Subash Chandra Bose.
UHV:
1. Control the Indian subcontinent by 1950
2. Have 1 billion people in 1990 OR Be the most populous country in 1990
3. Have the highest score in 2000
That'd be PRETTY AWESOME. You can't deny. Also, should I be suggesting all these things on DoC rather than here? xD
UHV1 can't work because there is no way to get rid of independent culture except through spawn culture.Name: Safavids/Qajar/Iran
Leaders: (Ismāil I|Until 1742)(17421941: Mohammad Khan Qajar)(1941-:Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi)(If Government is Theocratic: Ruhollah Khomeini)
Leader Traits:
UU: Qizilbash (Rifleman, Starts with City Raider I)
UB: Caravanserai (Market with +30% +10% )
UP:
UHV:- Ensure Baghdad, Kabul, and Samarkand are 100% Persian in 1700 AD
- Make Islam the only Religion in Iran in 1750 AD
- Control all of The Arabian Peninsula, Jerusalem, and Anatolia in 1945 AD
Preferred Civic: (Shahs- Absolutism, Khomenini- Theocracy Equivilent)
Start: 1501 AD
End: N/A
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While I know it's supposed to be the Safavids, I incoroporated the Qajars and late Iran in this too for longevity's sake. UP and Traits have not been added because I'm lazy. I'm not sure if the Qizilbash ever used guns, but it wouldn't make much since, and they would have much of a use, if they we're made Maces or Pikes.
Why would you implement 20th century Neopaganism? (Wicca)Orthodoxy should be added and Judaism and Confucianism should be reinstated. maybe some sort of northern European Wicca thing could be added? or something representing the Aztec/Mayan beliefs?
Capital!Great news guys! I've just finished porting over potatoes, tea, coffee, tobacco, and timber from RFC:E (also in RFCM:BWS). Some screenies:
The plan is this:
Sunni and Shi'ite leaders get a penalty, but it's halved.
Orthodox leaders get a bonus with Catholics and Protestants, but its halved.
Confucians, Taoists, and Buddhists get a bonus with each other, but it's halved.
Hindus and Buddhists get a quartered bonus.
Hindus, Confucians, and Taoists get a quartered penalty.
Catholics and Prots. get a halved penalty (not a full penalty, like in DoC)
I may also have a 'pagan' religion to reprsent a lot of the other stuff... but pagan leaders will actually get a small negative penalty against each other because the various pagan religions of the world are different. Paganism won't have a holy city either.
Would require coding skill I currently lack, but sure, in the future.
EDIT: A note on timber: I'll probably change the improvement needed to access it (so that it's available earlier), and make it so that it hurries certain wonders. Also, I'll probably make it so that chopping the timber tile will result in losing the timber.
Why not have it represent South Asia?
UHV1 can't work because there is no way to get rid of independent culture except through spawn culture.
Why would you implement 20th century Neopaganism? (Wicca)
Capital!
Conversion by the sword, if you get my drift. There wouldn't be nearly as many Muslims in India, and Afghanistan would still be Hindu/ Buddhist if it weren't for the damned Mughals, Timurids, etc.
Why not have it represent South Asia?
I know, but he only described India not South AsiaIndia already kinda represents all of S. Asia
It might, but you can't expedite the process by killing the civReally? I was unaware of this... I thought that Indie culture just went away over time just like regular foreign culture.
MaybeLol that's what I was thinking too. Unless he means earlier pagan religions.
Are you racially stereotyping me because I'm Indian, am a citizen of Canada and drink black tea in the morning and afternoon??I presume, by your word choice, you're referring to the introduction of tea ?
Doesn't seem to add muchOh, and on another note, I was thinking that 'Atheism' might be a possible 'religion' to implement. Founded via scientific method, no holy shrine, no buildings, no anything special EXCEPT that it slowly causes religions in cities to die. I personally am not too sure if it would be a good addition however. Opinions?
Also, when would you like the release to be? I was thinking the eleventh would be good.
I sense a bit of a bias here.
Anyways muslims only constitute 13% of India (maybe 15 to 17% if u include Bangladesh and Nepal). Percentage wise thats the same as Russia (12%) and a bit more than France (9%).
Proportionally, Muslims only constitute a sight minority in India. Maybe You can include Islam (in addition to Hinduism) in one Indian city (perhaps one in a region with a large Muslim minority).
NOW here's where i strongly disagree with you. Afghanistan has a totally different culture/language/ people than India. The Mughals were from Afghanistan and the Timurid capital was in Herat, Afghanistan. The religion of Afghanistan depended on its rulers, as this small chronography will display.
1) The Achaemenid Empire conquers Afghanistan and the chief religion is Zoroastrianism. Note many historians believe Zoroaster was born in either Arachosia, Sistan-Balochistan or Bactria. (Region within or in close proximity to Afghanistan and even Pakistan.
2) Alexander conquers Afghanistan (everything west of Indus) and Hellenism is mixed with local religions.
3) Mauryan conquer Afghanistan and Pakistan and spread Buddhism to the region.
4) The Persian Parthians, Kushans and Sassanids conquer Afghanistan (and Pakistan) and Zoroastrianism and Hellenized Buddhism become the main religions of the region.
5) The Arabs conquer the region and Islam replaces Buddhism and Zoroastarianism as the main religion.
Although, I agree with Islam being spread to India by force (somewhat).
You can show Afghanistan's religious diversity on the map by spawning a Taxila with Zoroastarianism and Buddhism (not hinduism). The spawn would have to after the spawn of Persia since Zoroastrianism isnt founded before this
Linkman, the nations you've given me don't have civ-specific Great People lists yet, as the two mods that included this feature stopped updating before Beyond the Sword came out. However, I did spend a little while trying to find Ethiopian ones, and this is what I've come up with:
Great Artists:
-Tsegaye Gabre-Medhin
-Afewerk Tekle
-Alexander Boghossian
-Adamu Tesfaw
-Gebre Kristos Desta
Great Engineers:
-King Ezana
-Fasiledes
-Gebre Mesqel Lalibela
Great Generals:
-Yohannes IV
-Yekuno Amlak
-Iyasu I
-Amda Seyon I
-Eskender
-Tewodros II
Great Merchants:
-Mohammed Al Amoudi
-Queen of Sheba
Great Prophets:
-Samuel of Dabra Wagag
-Ewostatewos
-Abuna Theophilos
-Gabra Manfas Qeddus
-Yared
Great Scientists:
-Kitaw Ejigu
-Gebise Ejeta
-Sossina M. Haile
-Tilahun Yilma
-Aklilu Lemma
Great Spies:
-Yodit
-Shewa Regged
Where would you put Haile Selassie?
Also, artists and scientists are only modern, if that's OK. I couldn't find any otherwise. And not all too many of these people are "great" by my standards, but they are the greatest among Ethiopians, at least among those we know about and those I can find fairly easily.
Also, I would consider putting Hellenism from RFCC in as a religion. It would give conflict between the Zoroastrians and the Greeks early on, as well as giving the Mediterranean a religion previous to the arrival of Catholicism. Since it's over-ridden with the spread of Catholicism, one wouldn't have to worry about it surviving into the Medieval Era.
I didnt include pakistan for a reason. Pakistan was also part of Achaemenid Empire, Alexenders Empire, Greek Empire, Gereco-Bactarian kingdoms; Iranian Kingdom (Sythians, Parthians, Kushans, Sassanids), Arabs and Ghaznavids. There are only three instances in history when Pakistan was part of of India: Mauryas, Mughals and the British. Anyways Western Pakistan was a core part of Persia.First of all you forget Pakistan, the biggest Muslim nation there, WHICH by the way, used to be part of India. You also have to take into account that 13% of India's 1.2 billion people means a lot more people than than the equivalent percentage in most other countries. Most importantly, Islam in India is growing at an astonishing 36.0% annually. That's more than any other single religion in India.
Thats like saying Zoroastrianism should be spread in China because a small minority of Chinese embraced Zoroastrianism because of the silk road. Or that Kiev should spawn with Islam because of the Tatars. Hinduism had a very small if not any part in history of Afghanistan. For most of its history it was part of the Persian Empire; and when it was part of the Indian Empire it was when India was buddhist. Just a century before the Arab conquest, there are accounts of Chinese monks travelling to Gandhara (Eastern Afghanistan) and describing their Buddhist heritage. There was mention of Zoroastarians but not Hindus.Hellenism had more impact in Afghanistan than Hinduism as shown by the excavation of statues Hellenistic gods in the region. I highly advise you not to add Hinduism to Afghanistan.As I said, Afghanistan USED to be of Hindu strain. It isn't anymore thanks to, largely, the Arab invasion.
I'll probably reinstate Judaism and Confucianism, although the former will be a minor religion that spreads randomly like in RFCE:E. I'll probably also add the Sunni/ Shi'ite split.
Anyone have any ideas on what tech would cause the Islam split?
EDIT: Or better, perhaps an automatic prescripted split in 632?
I didnt include pakistan for a reason. Pakistan was also part of Achaemenid Empire, Alexenders Empire, Greek Empire, Gereco-Bactarian kingdoms; Iranian Kingdom (Sythians, Parthians, Kushans, Sassanids), Arabs and Ghaznavids. There are only three instances in history when Pakistan was part of of India: Mauryas, Mughals and the British. Anyways Western Pakistan was a core part of Persia....
Hinduism had a very small if not any part in history of Afghanistan. For most of its history it was part of the Persian Empire; and when it was part of the Indian Empire it was when India was buddhist. Just a century before the Arab conquest, there are accounts of Chinese monks travelling to Gandhara (Eastern Afghanistan) and describing their Buddhist heritage. There was mention of Zoroastarians but not Hindus.Hellenism had more impact in Afghanistan than Hinduism as shown by the excavation of statues Hellenistic gods in the region.
Thats like saying Zoroastrianism should be spread in China because a small minority of Chinese embraced Zoroastrianism because of the silk road. Or that Kiev should spawn with Islam because of the Tatars.
I highly advise you not to add Hinduism to Afghanistan.
This was rather easy compared to Ethiopia.
Christopher Columbus is included because of the many books published claiming he was a Portuguese spy. You can remove him if you wish to.
This mod sounds amazing. I look forward to downloading it with bated breath.
Just go with a Prescrpited split, as there was really no pinpoint tech cause for the Split, other than argument over Divine Right. But this already founds Islam.