Sparth
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Map scripts are in python (.py) and you can edit these parameters using any text editor.
Recommended map size/AIs?
- Thread starter bobwwd
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Map scripts are in python (.py) and you can edit these parameters using any text editor.
Nakkimunakas
Chieftain
In general (not sure if this affects every map script):
1. Find your CIV4WorldInfo.xml file. Mine is located at C:\Program Files (x86)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Caveman2Cosmos36\Assets\XML\GameInfo
2.Right click the file, pick edit to open in a text program (e.g notepad)
3.You'll find
<iGridWidth>10</iGridWidth>
<iGridHeight>6</iGridHeight>
with some parameters under every worldsize option. For example changing <iGridWidth>10</iGridWidth> to <iGridWidth>11</iGridWidth> should change 40 tiles wide map to 44 tile one.
For custom maps:
1. Find a map script. For example C2C_PerfectWorld2f.py. Mine are located at C:\Program Files (x86)\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Caveman2Cosmos36\PrivateMaps
2.Right click the file, pick edit
3. Many custom maps seem to have in their script parameters you can change:
For example you can find the bolded parts in C2C_PerfectWorld2f.py(these might be more or less different looking for different map scripts):
self.landPercent = 0.4 (would be 40% land area)
and
def getGridSize(argsList):
grid_sizes = {
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_DUEL: (12, 8),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_TINY: (15, 10),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_SMALL: (18, 12),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_STANDARD: (24, 16),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_LARGE: (30, 20),
WorldSizeTypes.WORLDSIZE_HUGE: (36, 24) #,
# 6: (42, 28),
# 7: (48, 32)
}
if (argsList[0] == -1): # (-1,) is passed to function on loads
return []
[eWorldSize] = argsList
return grid_sizes[eWorldSize]
For example Changing (48, 32) to (55, 15) would change map height and width for the gigantic map size option. New gigantic map size would now change from 48x32x4=6144 tiles to 55x15x4=3300 tiles.
Edit: Also you'll want to remove # character since in python it means comment and anything after it on a line has no effect.
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
Yes PM T-brd and he can give you specifics. He just posted he needs to look at some Tags for streamlining/making more efficient. Any Help you can provide him would be a Big Big Help and we All would be very appreciative. Thanks.
JosEPh
You should change Caveman2Cosmos36 to Caveman2Cosmos. Remove the "36".
Not using Caveman2Cosmos will cause problems ingame.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Yes PM T-brd and he can give you specifics. He just posted he needs to look at some Tags for streamlining/making more efficient. Any Help you can provide him would be a Big Big Help and we All would be very appreciative. Thanks.
JosEPh
hmm... that could actually be a very good way to get started with dll modding. I could explain how to make these conversions, identify one tag at a time to convert. Each one will take a bit of effort both in the dll and the xml.
Nakkimunakas
Chieftain
You should change Caveman2Cosmos36 to Caveman2Cosmos. Remove the "36".
Not using Caveman2Cosmos will cause problems ingame.
Any idea what problems? Haven't noticed any.
Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
I have not either. It does make it very difficult for debugging any saves though.
To quote The Supreme Commander:
If I remember correctly, some C++ programs may use "Caveman2Cosmos" in the code. So after many hours of trouble free playing - CTD, if not using the correct name.
Just a warning.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Some have reported user interface issues. It's also infuriating to debug a game saved on a mod folder named other than the norm. Adds hours to the task.
strategyonly
C2C Supreme Commander
And this is my main point i was really referring to in the OTHER threads . . . thx TB .
Yes PM T-brd and he can give you specifics. He just posted he needs to look at some Tags for streamlining/making more efficient. Any Help you can provide him would be a Big Big Help and we All would be very appreciative. Thanks.
JosEPh
Alright thanks but there's gonna be a small delay.. I got interested some time ago about the ~4gb memory limit because of 32bit apps. I searched my old C++ programmings from ages ago and found my old DLL hook code which I'll try to modify for Civ4. So I can do DLL injection on Civ4 to run my custom code, more specifically load all the DLL files or the mod's DLL file to a shared memory map in RAM.
So the hook process will have 4GB RAM for those required DLLs to use and will free Civ4 process' memory to basically use total of ~8GB RAM.
I have a basic plan designed.. it should be possible, maybe.. in theory
I've seen it done on few other games without access to the game core's source
But I assume it'll be against TOS though
JosEPh_II
TBS WarLord
@bobwwd,
I hope you succeed.
JosEPh
I hope you succeed.
JosEPh
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Wow... that could be a major breakthrough! Fascinating.
It's gonna be fairly easy to the injection phase but I'm still unsure how I will override Civ4.exe's DLL loading routines to replace it with my hook's loading routines. But I have the whole day to do some research hehe. Then "redirect" Civ4 to read the memory from the address space where the hook process has stored it in RAM or pagefile.
I'm really excited, haven't done much programming lately and I'm interested to see if it'll work
EDIT: Alright, it seems to be far more complicated than I thought (sharing the gamedata between the processes, especially when you don't have access to the game source. But it is possible, it just requires some time and alot of programming. It is also possible to allocate and store Civ4 process data during gameplay when the gameworld fills up with units and other stuff to the hook process up to the ~4GB and once that limit is reached, Civ4 can use its' own 4GB. It must be a 4GB+4GB, both 32bit processes, since 32bit and 64bit processes cannot share data and "communicate" with eachother via injection. One thing that will surely help is the access to the mod's DLL sources if my other ideas fail). I'll try to get as far as I can and release the sources somewhere if I feel like giving up so someone else can see if they have an idea.
Don't know how long this'll take but let's just say a long time
Good thing that I've always liked challenging projects heheI'll do my best, it always bothered me when I couldn't finish a long game I've been playing for weeks because of MAFs
Although this kind of programming is kinda new to me so it'll take some time to do some testing and learn. I'll start with my own old games I programmed long time ago and do testing on them first
And I wanna play a full Gigantic map with a lot of civs with conquest victory condition only
This hook'll be my solutionSome sources I was looking through for the basic idea
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa366551%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1200998/sharing-memory-between-two-processes-c-windows
Any feedback is welcome if someone has experience on memory mapping or such. When I get going and get the basic code working with the basic idea I'll start a new topic or something if someone's interested to know about the progress
But I need to know if that's allowed, since this project will surely require disassembling/reverse-engineering (but not necessarily, I haven't got in to that point yet but I'm assuming the "worst" here) of the Civ exe and such to find the executable's main entry point and other stuff, though it will depend what info I'll need from the exe.
If it's not allowed I will respect that and speak no more of it
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
You'd have to check with firaxis or the forum admins. I can't be sure of what you can and cannot get away with there legally.
Thanks, I'll contact them. I tried to search for forums rules but didn't find any or I'm blind.. Where are the rules?
Loffas
Warlord
I´m playing on the SVN version now. I think the AI works alot better now. But I can´t play with so many civs or a big map because of the loading time between turns.
I would like so big a map as possible + extra civs, and with barbarian world+barbarian civ mod. I´ve started on big maps and alot of civs and are currently working my way down, until I notice a setting that wont have to long loading time between turns..
I´m currently gonna test standard map(with 50 % landmass) and 10 civs but without the barbarian civ mod.
BR Loffas
I would like so big a map as possible + extra civs, and with barbarian world+barbarian civ mod. I´ve started on big maps and alot of civs and are currently working my way down, until I notice a setting that wont have to long loading time between turns..
I´m currently gonna test standard map(with 50 % landmass) and 10 civs but without the barbarian civ mod.
BR Loffas
Noriad2
Emperor
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If you think the game is too slow, there are options available to speed it up.
ESC key-> options
(game tab)
show enemy moves
show friendly moves
quick moves
quick combat (offense)
quick combat (defense)
stack attack
(graphics tab)
no combat zoom
You miss out on some eye candy but turns will go much faster.
ESC key-> options
(game tab)
show enemy moves
show friendly moves
quick moves
quick combat (offense)
quick combat (defense)
stack attack
(graphics tab)
no combat zoom
You miss out on some eye candy but turns will go much faster.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Not sure...
