Hyperion529
Prince
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aren't city connections still giving gold?
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aren't city connections still giving gold?
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Yes, but you have to pay maintenance on the roads. It's hard to afford that maintenance cost until it's complete without the caravans.
Evanescence
Timeless Mochi Lord
Sorry to disappoint, but no, the buffalo religion icon thingy is a mod. Something like G&K More Religions... or something... the name escapes me at the moment.
blackcatatonic
Queen of Meme
Yeah, anything that gives you ways to win the game that might discourage you from just going to war and helping yourself to all the AI's cities doesn't sound like it needs fixing IMO.
Evanescence
Timeless Mochi Lord
On the topic of trade routes.
I am seriously reluctant to trade with other major civs because if I am ahead in tech, then they gain a pretty nice bump in their science research. I'd rather keep the trade to the city states, which generate the same amount of income.
Also, AI Venice seems so sad. It's trying to pretend that it's a major civ, but no one seems to really pay much attention to them.
I am seriously reluctant to trade with other major civs because if I am ahead in tech, then they gain a pretty nice bump in their science research. I'd rather keep the trade to the city states, which generate the same amount of income.
Also, AI Venice seems so sad. It's trying to pretend that it's a major civ, but no one seems to really pay much attention to them.
DeutschDachs
Emperor
You can trade with the city states. I don't know how trading with yourself would result in more gold; your nation has a set amount of worth until it exports or imports something.
HeraldtheGreat
King
I find myself pushing back NC to accommodate trade units and the different guilds. I think I'll try a new game with a 1-2 city NC empire and see how that works.
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I got chills when I met Enrico. His body language reminds me of the Emperor. I felt lucky to get out of there without getting a lethal dose of Force Lightning.
Because now your empire is self sufficient XD
Anyways, for those fortunate enough to have the new XP, can you answer me a little tid bit? What does the Parthenon do and when (tech wise) you unlock it?
Thanks!
First Game Shoshone cultural victory on Prince. Man is cultural victory far more fun and engaging. I sat on 4 cities and barely fought and still did twice as much as under old cultural victories. Brazil took forever to take down so killing a culture rival in a culture game is now heavily incentivized. Add in ability to go wide and have conquest be meaningful and that victory condition is coming out of the attic.
Aesthetics is a great policy tree. I can see it being absolutely deadly with a Piety opening. The ability to buy GWAM is very useful for Theming bonuses which mostly want GWAM from same era. A wide culture game with cheap religious and cultural buildings and the land for archaeological treasures is very interesting. With 3 separate counters your faith can go a lot farther.
Trading is absolutely essential to money making. I had 4 coastal cities on Pangaea and no real ocean access. Cost me some money. I found I had less money in early and late game with less tile gold. It also hurt my culture game as it was hard to reach civs for trading route bonuses to tourism. With sea routes being so powerful I found treasure fleets really useful, which might strengthen Exploration.
Oh and for those hoping for a happiness nerf, both zoo and stadium have lost happiness. Add in potential ideological unhappiness and late game might actually be happy challenged on higher levels.
I find Freedom a bit overpowered. It has the best ideology wonder, great tenets, and is the most versatile. A worrying trend is that EVERY AI chose Order, even Shaka. In Maddjinn's stream there was a preponderance of Order civs as well. Since the Majority of AIs spam cities even on Prince it seems they are predisposed to Order. Small sample size so not worried yet. Have other people found the same. Another reason Freedom is great is Great Person tiles are quite strong in culture games. You can add culture to them that converts easily to tourism which is
For World Congress, if you play on a low level and are smart you can dominate it all game. Made sure to found it and immediately proposed my religion as world. With Forbidden Palace, and host benefits could almost vote it in myself. Had no religion mates to force it and still managed to get it in by bribing religionless Zulu. From there it was gravy.
Aesthetics is a great policy tree. I can see it being absolutely deadly with a Piety opening. The ability to buy GWAM is very useful for Theming bonuses which mostly want GWAM from same era. A wide culture game with cheap religious and cultural buildings and the land for archaeological treasures is very interesting. With 3 separate counters your faith can go a lot farther.
Trading is absolutely essential to money making. I had 4 coastal cities on Pangaea and no real ocean access. Cost me some money. I found I had less money in early and late game with less tile gold. It also hurt my culture game as it was hard to reach civs for trading route bonuses to tourism. With sea routes being so powerful I found treasure fleets really useful, which might strengthen Exploration.
Oh and for those hoping for a happiness nerf, both zoo and stadium have lost happiness. Add in potential ideological unhappiness and late game might actually be happy challenged on higher levels.
I find Freedom a bit overpowered. It has the best ideology wonder, great tenets, and is the most versatile. A worrying trend is that EVERY AI chose Order, even Shaka. In Maddjinn's stream there was a preponderance of Order civs as well. Since the Majority of AIs spam cities even on Prince it seems they are predisposed to Order. Small sample size so not worried yet. Have other people found the same. Another reason Freedom is great is Great Person tiles are quite strong in culture games. You can add culture to them that converts easily to tourism which is
For World Congress, if you play on a low level and are smart you can dominate it all game. Made sure to found it and immediately proposed my religion as world. With Forbidden Palace, and host benefits could almost vote it in myself. Had no religion mates to force it and still managed to get it in by bribing religionless Zulu. From there it was gravy.
InsanelyApple
Prince
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This may sound stupid, but how do you move Great Works between your own cities?
Parthenon is now Terracotta with some of the culture from a great work. It has 4 
and a prefilled GW art slot. Quite useful for early tourism. It comes at Drama and Poetry if I recall.
edit. Insanely. You go into tourism section to the left tab. I think its called your culture. It shows all your buildings with GW slots. You can pick an GW and move it to any slot in your empire. Keep an eye on it so you don't lose theming bonuses.
and a prefilled GW art slot. Quite useful for early tourism. It comes at Drama and Poetry if I recall.edit. Insanely. You go into tourism section to the left tab. I think its called your culture. It shows all your buildings with GW slots. You can pick an GW and move it to any slot in your empire. Keep an eye on it so you don't lose theming bonuses.
NotSure
King
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"They tolerate warmongers?"
I played an easier game just to get the feel. I couldn't resist the temptation to try out those Siege Towers. They're pretty powerful, but they work like Battering Rams. So I ripped through one civ and started on another when Maria denounced me. When I took her last city there was that message about them tolerating warmongers. I'm pretty sure I saw a bright red diplo hit with her on the very first DoW. I don't know what to make of that.
Anyway, the lack of gold is the biggest shock. I tried to get a cargo ship out quick and it got raided by barbs about four turns later. Speaking of barbs, I saw barb horsemen and swords. I didn't expect that.
The other mistake I made was testing Liberty. I knew better and did it anyway. The AI all went tall and and wonder-crazy. Maria goes for the Oracle like Pacal.
What else. Oh, the gold from plundering caravans during war is pretty good.
Spoiler :
I played an easier game just to get the feel. I couldn't resist the temptation to try out those Siege Towers. They're pretty powerful, but they work like Battering Rams. So I ripped through one civ and started on another when Maria denounced me. When I took her last city there was that message about them tolerating warmongers. I'm pretty sure I saw a bright red diplo hit with her on the very first DoW. I don't know what to make of that.
Anyway, the lack of gold is the biggest shock. I tried to get a cargo ship out quick and it got raided by barbs about four turns later. Speaking of barbs, I saw barb horsemen and swords. I didn't expect that.
The other mistake I made was testing Liberty. I knew better and did it anyway. The AI all went tall and and wonder-crazy. Maria goes for the Oracle like Pacal.
What else. Oh, the gold from plundering caravans during war is pretty good.
DeutschDachs
Emperor
Hm, i haven't played the game yet but it looked like order could be really good for tourism? I know there's two bonuses in there for it and one helps against other order civs. So if the AI is all order it would be great and even if they're not, you'll try to be converting them to order and that policy will help keep them under your influence.
What was your strategy with freedom?
dshirk
Firaxian
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Open up the Culture Overview. This UI will allow you to click on works, and move them to other slots in other buildings/cities.
apocalypse105
Deity
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"They tolerate warmongers?"
Spoiler :
I played an easier game just to get the feel. I couldn't resist the temptation to try out those Siege Towers. They're pretty powerful, but they work like Battering Rams. So I ripped through one civ and started on another when Maria denounced me. When I took her last city there was that message about them tolerating warmongers. I'm pretty sure I saw a bright red diplo hit with her on the very first DoW. I don't know what to make of that.
Anyway, the lack of gold is the biggest shock. I tried to get a cargo ship out quick and it got raided by barbs about four turns later. Speaking of barbs, I saw barb horsemen and swords. I didn't expect that.
The other mistake I made was testing Liberty. I knew better and did it anyway. The AI all went tall and and wonder-crazy. Maria goes for the Oracle like Pacal.
What else. Oh, the gold from plundering caravans during war is pretty good.
So basicly warmonger penalty hasn't changed? Or does it have a other meaning the modifier
Evanescence
Timeless Mochi Lord
Oh and one thing I noticed:
Exploration Opener does NOT give movement point for embarked units, unlike the old Commerce-Naval Tradition Policy. The wording is the same though, "+1 Movement point for Naval units."
Don't know if this was intended.
Exploration Opener does NOT give movement point for embarked units, unlike the old Commerce-Naval Tradition Policy. The wording is the same though, "+1 Movement point for Naval units."
Don't know if this was intended.
