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shattergod · Aug 21, 2013

Does the longbowmen allow a 2nd range promotion? In other words if the archer can shoot two tiles away, and the longbowman can shoot three tiles away, can the longbow get a promotion that allows them to shoot four tiles away?

Greizer85 · Aug 21, 2013

No. Which is a good thing, but I will lament it anyway (I like to play as England

).

mrwho · Aug 21, 2013

Nah, the longbowmen just get the extra range promotion immediately, rather than having an in-built extra range. What's great about them though is that they upgrade to 2-range gatling guns, machine guns, etc.

Shimmler · Aug 21, 2013

Longbowman shooting as far as heavy artillery is already a ******ed thing. Longbowman shooting further than heavy artillery would be a VERY ******ed thing to put it mildly.

Alzadar · Aug 21, 2013

Likewise Chu Ko Nu do not benefit from Logistics.

Ricard.Bossle · Aug 21, 2013

IMHO, their are the best UU of the game, even better than Keshiks.

Autoclave · Aug 21, 2013

Ricard.Bossle said:
IMHO, their are the best UU of the game, even better than Keshiks.

No. Keshiks are better. That increased mobility and fast skill increase is better.

CountAccountant · Aug 21, 2013

Ricard.Bossle said:
IMHO, their are the best UU of the game, even better than Keshiks.

Good sir, your blasphemous words are an insult to everything I believe in. Internet honor demands that we flame war to the death at dawn.

Bnel · Aug 21, 2013

Keshiks are better while they are keshiks, then suck because they upgrade to Cav.

Longbows are better after they obsolete.

shaglio · Aug 21, 2013

Alzadar said:
Likewise Chu Ko Nu do not benefit from Logistics.

Technically, they do benefit from Logistics, but since they only have 2 movement points, it gets rendered moot.

People have done experiments with Persia where they were gifted Longbowmen from a Military CS, earned the Logistics promotion, and were able to attack 3 times during a Golden Age.

Dogmouth · Aug 21, 2013

shaglio said:
Technically, they do benefit from Logistics, but since they only have 2 movement points, it gets rendered moot.

People have done experiments with Persia where they were gifted Longbowmen from a Military CS, earned the Logistics promotion, and were able to attack 3 times during a Golden Age.

You could also do it with Denmark.

Anarchist · Aug 21, 2013

Longbows are awesome. Upgrading to GG/MG with 2 range, and since most get few hits if you are even halfway careful, you will likely get logistic too.

What do you call MG with 2 range and 2 attacks? City-killers! Back 'em up with artillery and some SAMs, and you have unstoppable powers. You probably only need one melee unit to take cities!

ltccone · Aug 21, 2013

Shimmler said:
Longbowman shooting as far as heavy artillery is already a ******ed thing. Longbowman shooting further than heavy artillery would be a VERY ******ed thing to put it mildly.

It's tailored to the era.

Rifles shoot much further than longbowmen, much less gatling guns, machine guns, etc.

OmniPotent42 · Aug 21, 2013

shaglio said:
Technically, they do benefit from Logistics, but since they only have 2 movement points, it gets rendered moot.

People have done experiments with Persia where they were gifted Longbowmen from a Military CS, earned the Logistics promotion, and were able to attack 3 times during a Golden Age.

When ranged units used to have (or maybe still have) the +1 movement promotion I was able to attack 3 times every turn.

paulcarri · Aug 21, 2013

dont you think most units are situational on the sort of game you want to play?

most people run down turtle ships - but in my 2nd game, when i decided to invade korea (archipelago game) they were a MASSIVE pain despite my decent tech lead.. so for korea they were almost a life saver

anyway i love bows...but agree a promotion for even more range would be mad

shaglio · Aug 22, 2013

OmniPotent42 said:
When ranged units used to have (or maybe still have) the +1 movement promotion I was able to attack 3 times every turn.

Yeah, I guess it you got a Scout promoted to Survielence 3 and then it got upgraded to an archer through a Ruin, it would have the ability to make that 3rd attack.

So there's 3 possibilities:

1) Persia receiving a Cho-Ku-No from a Military CS and using it during a Golden Age
2) Denmark receiving a Cho-Ku-No from a Military CS and using it after disembarking
3) Chinese Scarcher with Survielence 3, upgraded to a Cho-Ku-No

compwiz1202 · Aug 22, 2013

shaglio said:
Yeah, I guess it you got a Scout promoted to Survielence 3 and then it got upgraded to an archer through a Ruin, it would have the ability to make that 3rd attack.

So there's 3 possibilities:

1) Persia receiving a Cho-Ku-No from a Military CS and using it during a Golden Age
2) Denmark receiving a Cho-Ku-No from a Military CS and using it after disembarking
3) Chinese Scarcher with Survielence 3, upgraded to a Cho-Ku-No

I've only ever gotten 3 on a low level, because it's tough to get that scout promoted because you have to forego the +regen promotions, and you have to be lucky enough to still find a weapons ruin after you get the +1 movement promotion.

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shattergod

Chieftain

Greizer85

Emperor

mrwho

Prince

Shimmler

Warlord

Alzadar

Warlord

Ricard.Bossle

Chieftain

Autoclave

Warlord

CountAccountant

Warlord

Bnel

Chieftain

shaglio

The Prince of Dorkness

Dogmouth

King

Anarchist

Warlord

ltccone

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OmniPotent42

King

paulcarri

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shaglio

The Prince of Dorkness

compwiz1202

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