Is this place still active?
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Luckymoose
The World is Mine
What constitutes activity, anyway? Is the whole of our existence judged on games run on forums, or is over a decade of community still actively gathering to communicate enough? At our peak we had maybe sixty active NESers at a single moment, normally closer to thirty-forty over my ten years here. We've always been extremely niche. We've had twenty unique regulars in the last week alone in the incestuous chat, so I ask again: what is activity? It isn't like the chat was ever specifically designed to be the bastion of rulesets and gaming. It was always a live WWW in a sense. I guess the concept of sharing more than one thing in common with a group of individuals escapes the detractors.
But I do have to say that activity is a more abstract concept than it is being presented here. Running a game on a forum for two updates and failing is no more activity than gathering ten or fifteen people together to build an alt. history timeline. In the end, one of them is completed and the other is not.
Alas there is some incessant need to pick and pester around here. If you want to run your games, go do so, but stop with the bullying, man. We're all adults, most of us beyond higher education seeking to do much grander things with our lives than run watered down NESing experiences. Enjoy the friends you've made and let it be.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
That's a great analysis, Iggy.
Yeah, I just legitimately didn't have time between work, class, and research to do justice to my althist. But CD and I have been working on a very promising automated stats system that will hopefully lower the moderator anguish when I finally am able to launch this.
Why'd you say that?
I gave the basic overview needed to understand things without going into the manifesto, the back and forth with mods, and the like. And I'm hardly equivocating on what I'm saying, unless you count not naming names as equivocation.You're being really hostile here Crezth. I don't think anyone's going to debate that the NES and STG forums have been largely inactive, but there are things going on, discussions and RPG campaigns, that aren't on the forums.
Why are you throwing names like this?
Yeah, the games are in IOT.
I am really not understanding the #nes hate.@Crezth, you might be right. Surprisingly time moves on, and I don't really have much to say about changing my opinion on the matter (apparently?) except that it's been nearly two years, and I have disagreements to be passionate about that aren't Internet forum games. Interestingly you have just pointed out that the incestuous nature of #nes has held the community back, so I think we've all come around to a middle point
Everyone should go join this right now.
schlaufuchs
Break My Heart
Because #nes can be quite clique-ish and a hostile environment for those not in the in-group
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
I don't think that's really fair to say, Owen, especially since you don't spend much time there.
Are fiftychat or iotchat really any different? I don't think so; all chatrooms discourage newcomers in their own ways.
erez87
Lord of Random
It is fair.
Lord of Elves
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Look, I don't think anyone can seriously argue that #nes is not cliqueish, in the sense that if people don't want to talk to you they won't. In this sense, it's no more cliqueish than any other social interaction that occurs in real life, but the goal of #nes shouldn't be to foster social interaction as much as it should be to foster the community. If we were in this just for the friends we'd all exchange phone numbers, meet up and go pick up girls together. Or maybe that was just the fan-fic I wrote about me and Crezthchan ...
I digress. I think anyone can get something out of #nes if they are prepared to deal with the snark and "apathetic cool" disinterest that people affect there. Indeed, if you're snarky and dead inside, you'll probably get quite a lot out of #nes, but it's hard for newer members of the community to ingratiate themselves on chat when they are unfamiliar with the style that #nes and its denizens keep up. I really do believe this is a matter of "style," or culture, if we want to be generous. Even people that have "wronged" the community have been able to have beneficial conversations on #nes when they have approached it from the right standpoint.
The simple fact of the matter is that on #nes, people are mean to each other in I guess an Internet equivalent to that locker room way I keep hearing about. Whether this is cliqueishness or just one way of interacting is debatable.
I digress. I think anyone can get something out of #nes if they are prepared to deal with the snark and "apathetic cool" disinterest that people affect there. Indeed, if you're snarky and dead inside, you'll probably get quite a lot out of #nes, but it's hard for newer members of the community to ingratiate themselves on chat when they are unfamiliar with the style that #nes and its denizens keep up. I really do believe this is a matter of "style," or culture, if we want to be generous. Even people that have "wronged" the community have been able to have beneficial conversations on #nes when they have approached it from the right standpoint.
The simple fact of the matter is that on #nes, people are mean to each other in I guess an Internet equivalent to that locker room way I keep hearing about. Whether this is cliqueishness or just one way of interacting is debatable.
Thlayli
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Lol, LoE man you make it sound like we haze people.
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In comparison to the retiring, "let's all be friends" hugbox attitudes of other groups, yeah
You're conflating having one regular you dislike with everyone disliking you. That's not reasonable.
It's a group with shared interests, but I don't think it's either actively or passively hostile to others. If we actively avoided other people, you might describe it as cliquey, but as it is what you're saying is equivalent to saying that a small village on an island is cliquey.
Get your terms straight, we're inbred, not cliquey.
You speak as if every one of us is snarky and apathetic.
If you're dead inside, you'll likely get very little out of anything. You don't need to ingratiate yourself with #nes to take part and be appreciated, that's silly.
I am really not seeing this meanness or locker room antics. Maybe it just never happens to me.
That's hilarious, Symphony D. criticized for turning #nes into a hugbox.
When it was good, NESing was simply outstanding. It was a community of prodigious creativity and anticipation. A delightful place full of nice people who got cranky from time to time.
Link to video.
And like Camelot, well, that ended badly too.
Link to video.
And like Camelot, well, that ended badly too.
erez87
Lord of Random
So simple isn't it?
I did learn one thing since my personal experiences with #nes chat. When things go out of hand, get screenshots.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
As if logs don't exist? What would that matter anyway? To show to people without context?
yea, and there's still a lot of good things happening in #nes. Pretty much the same dynamic, though less pure NES stuff. NESing evolved into interests in story writing, history research, althistory timeline creating and community discussion with people who mostly like each other
IMO, we're fairly welcoming to newcomers, especially in comparison to other chatrooms (IOTchat, early fiftychat) and most forums (CFC OT, Somethingawful, etc). I'm not going to let it slide that #nes is some terrible place, it was much worse in the past and some of the people who complain about the tenor of the chatroom now were often complicit in the blatant hobby shaming (including of nesing lol) & arsehattery that went on back then.
I don't regret for one minute giving the middle finger to the site administration, I can still play NES' when they run on the IOT forum or when an exciting althistory collab comes together in #nes, etc.
So yea, this subforum isnt active. The absolutely terrible site administration of CFC killed it, along with a lack of the special personality that could run a successful NES.
NESing still exists though. Just look at my sig. Plus TheMeanestGuest's fantasy epic on The Frontier. Honestly, even if every NES died...it would keep coming back. It's an addictive and fun concept.
As for erez...lol.
erez87
Lord of Random
lol right back at ya
thomas.berubeg
Wandering the World
As someone who is still involved (though not as much as before) in both #nes and iotchat and IOTing, I can attest to and confirm all of azale's statements.
iggy is #nes' one black friend who lets us all point at him and say "see we're stand up guys" while we discretely tuck our hoods in the tray of our F250.
yes I'm alive. ive just been busy, on holiday, at conferences/meetings and most importantly without a pc and/or Internet for the last six months.
yes I'm alive. ive just been busy, on holiday, at conferences/meetings and most importantly without a pc and/or Internet for the last six months.
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