Liberating A City Takes My Tiles?

docbud · Jun 14, 2014

There was a discussion a week or so ago about citadels and grabbing or keeping your land.

I am playing a game where I was battling the Zulus. I had earlier used two citadels (don't ask me why) to grab oil I needed. Later in the game, I liberated the Songhai's capital and then their second city (Jenna). But I lost my oil when I liberated the second city.

I have attached pics. Can anyone explain how I lose my oil when I clearly owned it?

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EDIT: I replayed it and tried to raze Jenna. It was okay for the first turn but then I was going to lose the oil. The oil tile belonged to them for some reason. Is there a minimum number of tiles a city must have or something?

And I replayed again, and the oil tile belongs to Jenna.

lindsay40k · Jun 14, 2014

Looks like liberating a city makes its first ring of hexes automatically go to the receiving player, regardless of other factors. I bet if you'd surrounded it with Citadels, they'd all have gone to Askia.

docbud · Jun 14, 2014

^^That sucks

Scotch0101 · Jun 15, 2014

lindsay40k said:
Looks like liberating a city makes its first ring of hexes automatically go to the receiving player, regardless of other factors. I bet if you'd surrounded it with Citadels, they'd all have gone to Askia.

You'll have to remake a citadel there to get it back

docbud · Jun 15, 2014

^^Unfortunately, that's not an option. I ended up puppeting the stupid city of Jenna so I could keep the oil.

TheMarshmallowBear · Jun 15, 2014

As far as I'm concerned you actually take posession of the city once you take it, only then does it switch allegiences depending on your choice.

Sherlock · Jun 15, 2014

When you liberate a CS does it give you diplo +'s with other Civ's? Or just that CS?

docbud · Jun 15, 2014

^^I'm definitely not an expert, but I believe liberating a CS just gives you major influence with the city state you liberated, and that's about it.

qemist · Jun 15, 2014

docbud said:
^^I'm definitely not an expert, but I believe liberating a CS just gives you major influence with the city state you liberated, and that's about it.

Mouseover tells me I will get an "Extreme" liberation bonus if a I liberate a CS.

docbud · Jun 15, 2014

^^That may be. But I don't think the AI civs care about that. I know you get a ton of influence with the CS you liberate, and maybe that's the "extreme" liberation bonus.

But like I said--I'm not an expert. I'll let the experts chime in.

Heerlo · Jun 15, 2014

Doesn't getting liberation bonuses erase warmonger penalties?

Mutineer · Jun 16, 2014

yes it does

Rubendg12 · Jun 16, 2014

Yeah thats one of the clearest things in the game. Warmonger your neighbours to the point where their only chance of expansion is taking a CS. Liberate that CS, remove warmonger bonus, and make your ruined neighbour look bad. Its so evil

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