War Theme Elimination Thread

Hi, all. Before I begin this, please note that I sought out the permission of the moderators before I posted this elimination thread. I am not spamming or doing this without permission. If you do not believe me, ask Browd.

Anyways, the game. This peace/war theme game has been started before, but it was never finished. I am here to change that. As usual, all civs start with 20 points, and if you want to upvote a civ, give it +1 point, for a downvote, -3 points. You must wait for 24 hours before you can vote again. You must give reasons for your votes or they will not count.

This thread will be for the war themes. You can find the peace theme thread here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=13379183#post13379183

Current Rankings:
1. Brazil
2. England
3. Arabia
4. Sweden
5. Indonesia
6. Spain
7. Poland
8. Mongolia
9. Byzantium
10. Shoshone
11. Dutch
12. Babylon
13. Russia
14. Zulu
15. Portugal
16. Assyria
17. Greece
18. Huns
19. Carthage
20. Ottomans
21. Polynesia
22. Ethiopia
23. Japan
24. France
25. Songhai
26. Egypt
27. Persia
28. Celts
29. Germany
30. America
31. Venice
32. Korea
33. Inca
34. Denmark
35. Maya
36. Rome
37. China
38. Aztecs
39. Austria
40. Siam
41. India
42. Iroquois
43. Morocco

Once again, BIG THANK YOU to the moderators for permitting this thread.

Anyways, let's get this started! Hope you all enjoy.

So, to cast my vote.

America- 20
Arabia- 20
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 20
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 20
Egypt- 20
England- 20
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 20
Inca- 20
India- 20-3=17
Indonesia- 20
Iroquois- 20
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 20
Mongolia- 20+1=21
Morocco- 20
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 20
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 20
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 20
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

Mongolia: No matter how far behind Genghis is or how small his military, this piece of music makes you feel like you are going to lose your conflict. The music is incredible.

India: Their peace theme is amazing. Their war theme, not so much. I find it rather disorganized and to not impress me as some of the other ones.

Shoshone - 20+1=21
Iroquois -20 - 3 = 17
All other civilizations with no changes.

Shoshone has good music, sun god theme and Apocalypto theme right after. That's a right fit...
Iroquois does have ok sound but the war theme isn't as good as Shoshone's...

America- 20
Arabia- 20
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 20
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 20+1=21
Egypt- 20
England- 20
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 20
Inca- 20
India- 17-3=14
Indonesia- 20
Iroquois- 20
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 20
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 20
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 20
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 20
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 20
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

I really like the Netherlands music in general it's all pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uf81Ikqnrw

Ill second India for worst theme. There are others I also dislike but India's just doesn't seem right to me.

Sorry, correcting the scores.

America- 20
Arabia- 20
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 20
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 21
Egypt- 20
England- 20
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 20
Inca- 20
India- 14
Indonesia- 20
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 20
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 20
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 20
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 20
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

America- 20
Arabia- 20
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 20
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 21
Egypt- 20
England- 20
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 20
Inca- 20
India- 14
Indonesia- 20
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 20
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 20
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 20 -3=17
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 20 +1=21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

I love Gustav's Music all around, but especially war. It's a little generic when it begins, but it's awesome when the Fiddle(?) starts.

Polynesia's just sounds messy to me, and the start would fit in perfectly with the Tri-pod noises from War of the Worlds.

Arabia: 20 -3=17 Because Civilization BO sems to european to me(the instruments) and isn't imersive as civilization iv, and I think it is a good exemple.

Babylon: 20 +1=21 Because it is one of the much thematically imersive to me.

Oi, is it too bloody hard to copy/paste the list and add your changes in there? Saves a lot of annoyance.

America- 20
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 21
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 21 +1 = 22
Egypt- 20
England- 20
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 20
Inca- 20
India- 14
Indonesia- 20
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 20
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 20 -3 = 17
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

The Dutch: It sounds like a Rennaisance Imperial March to me. How is that not awesome?
Morocco: It sounds a bit unhinged. The peace theme is good, this one...not so much.

It may assist if the OP stated what they are actually asking- what are we voting for?If you are after a poll rules and directions should be clearly explained- not a link to a different thread.

Read the entire thing, Convict, specifically this part: As usual, all civs start with 20 points, and if you want to upvote a civ, give it +1 point, for a downvote, -3 points. You must wait for 24 hours before you can vote again. This thread will be for the war themes.

War themes as in the piece of music played when you declare war on a civilization. It's different for each one.

America- 20
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 21
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 22
Egypt- 20
England- 21 (+) - Probably the most epic of them all.
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 20
Inca- 20
India- 14
Indonesia- 20
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 17 (-) - Don't think I ever liked the Mayan theme. Sounds like random instruments, feels rather bland.
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 17
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

America- 20
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 21
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 22
Egypt- 20
England- 21 + 1 = 22 - No-one beats England's War theme. No-one.
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 20 - 3 = 17 - Whoops, looks like we forgot to make the music sound threatening!
Inca- 20
India- 14
Indonesia- 20
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 17
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 17
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

America- 20
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20
Babylon- 21
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 22
Egypt- 20
England- 22
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 17
Inca- 20
India- 14-3=11
Indonesia- 20+1=21
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 17
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 17
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 20
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

Indonesia: The gamelan sounds pretty incredible when combined with Western intstruments. My favorite part, however, is that short part where only the string instruments are playing. EPIC STUFF.

India: I'm sorry, Gandhi, but I really can't think of anyone else to downvote right now.

Talk about Dutch war theme......cool.......that's all I have to say.....awesome!!!!

You know, Scotch0101, this isn't a closed thread. If you want to upvote the Dutch theme and downvote something else, feel free to.

America- 20
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 20-3=17
Babylon- 21
Brazil-20
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 22
Egypt- 20
England- 22
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 17
Inca- 20
India- 11
Indonesia- 21
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 17
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 17
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 20+1=21
Rome- 20
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

Am I biased towards Portugal? A tad But I do think it's a really good theme. At first, I didn't like how similar it sounded to the peace theme, but it has really grown on me.

The Aztec theme is pretty forgettable. If the goal was to make the Aztec theme sound creepy, they didn't quite succeed, I feel.

America- 20
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 17
Babylon- 21
Brazil-20+1=21
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 22
Egypt- 20
England- 22
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 17
Inca- 20
India- 11
Indonesia- 21
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 17
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 17
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 21
Rome- 20-3=17
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

Brazil: To me, the song says, "We're going to kill you. WITH STYLE."

Rome: The song, in my opinion, is neither threatening or good.

America- 20
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 17
Babylon- 21
Brazil-21 + 1 = 22 - As I believe I stated in the other thread: the name's Pedro. Dom Pedro.
Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 22
Egypt- 20
England- 22
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 17
Inca- 20
India- 11
Indonesia- 21
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 17
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 17 - 3 = 14 - Someone singing as the war theme for Morocco? Come on, this is for the guy who conquered large parts of Sub-Saharan Africa and kicked the Iberians out!
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 21
Rome- 17
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20

America- 20+1=21
Arabia- 17
Assyria- 20
Austria- 20
Aztec- 17
Babylon- 21

Byzantium- 20
Carthage- 20
Celts- 20
China- 20
Denmark- 20
Dutch- 22
Egypt- 20
England- 22-3=19
Ethiopia- 20
France- 20
Germany-20
Greece- 20
Huns- 17
Inca- 20
India- 11
Indonesia- 21
Iroquois- 17
Japan- 20
Korea- 20
Maya- 17
Mongolia- 21
Morocco- 14
Ottoman- 20
Persia- 20
Poland- 20
Polynesia- 17
Portugal- 21
Rome- 17
Russia- 20
Shoshone- 21
Siam- 20
Songhai- 20
Spain- 20
Sweden- 21
Venice- 20
Zulu- 20