hobbsyoyo
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This. I realized this just now, when you said it.
Things you only just now realized
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EDP
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This is very useful to know! It felt so useless...
Koiranputki
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Really?!?...I didn't realize that....I'll check the next time the opportunity presents itself... And, then I have to make sure the killing shot comes from ...usually as this tends to be an early game thing... an archer...
Koiranputki
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Yeah...I noticed that....and, yeah...it just comes too late...I try to delay the building broadcast towers if I can, but then you get too focussed on getting the CN tower instead of, maybe, something else.......
A bit like the free aqueducts in the Tradition finisher...you hate to have to wait, but you also don't like being "forced" to finish the Tradition tree when you might want something else...
The CN tower will overwrite any broadcast towers you already built into 'free' ones, reducing maintenance costs, if you build it after building towers anyway.
If you lose the city that built the CN tower, any city that had built towers beforehand will revert to the regular towers.
If you lose the city that built the CN tower, any city that had built towers beforehand will revert to the regular towers.
I just realized that Legalism can be several different free buildings. I always thought it was just monuments (didn't it used to be?)
I still hate its placement, though, if I'm going tradition early. A monument is very often the first thing I'll build in my capitol, or 2nd if I get a scout, so I have never liked picking Legalism so early and not receiving the free monument there (why doesn't it replace it with a free one like the CN tower does?) but I hate waiting so long to hit the opener without building that first monument, unless I find culture ruins. Bleh.
I still hate its placement, though, if I'm going tradition early. A monument is very often the first thing I'll build in my capitol, or 2nd if I get a scout, so I have never liked picking Legalism so early and not receiving the free monument there (why doesn't it replace it with a free one like the CN tower does?) but I hate waiting so long to hit the opener without building that first monument, unless I find culture ruins. Bleh.
EDP
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I think the CN Tower's free Broadcast Towers in puppet cities is it's most useful perk. Usually, puppet cities are way behind with buildings, because many get destroyed on capture and half of the population dies, so production dies as well. They won't have a Broadcast Tower most of the time, even when you get to the point you build the CN Tower. I didn't know the CN Tower converts you current BTs into free ones, though. That's another reason to build it.
Tachii
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The free broadcast tower also applies to newly settled or puppet cities as well. Effectively making each city a +5/6 culture city (I had Sistine Chapel at the time). It definitely isn't a bad late wonder for a wide empire, and the +1 pop/happiness doesn't hurt either.
Best combo is probably with Siam's Wats. My goodness a science boost AND a culture boost all at once. It almost seem broken.
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Does it reduce maintenance costs? , I note the 'if you build it after towers anyway'.
Does 'free' mean build cost but not maintenance costs?
I noted in Civ5 vanilla, that the legalism policy delivered 4 'free' culture buildings but it still cost at least 2 gold maintenance per city.
Maybe this has been addressed elsewhere.
The CN Tower gives you a no-maintenance broadcast tower in every city.
If you had built a broadcast tower in a city, it is overwritten with the free one.
If you lose the CN Tower, all free towers are removed and any city that had built one manually is returned to the maintenance-costing tower.
I still don't understand how Legalism really works, but yeah, its not the same. If I built a monument in my capitol, Legalism doesn't seem to do anything.
If you had built a broadcast tower in a city, it is overwritten with the free one.
If you lose the CN Tower, all free towers are removed and any city that had built one manually is returned to the maintenance-costing tower.
I still don't understand how Legalism really works, but yeah, its not the same. If I built a monument in my capitol, Legalism doesn't seem to do anything.
Legalism carries it forward, so if you'd already built a monument in a given city it will receive a free amphitheatre as soon as you've researched the appropriate tech. Likewise, if you've only founded two cities at the time you select Legalism, then the next two cities you found will get free monuments immediately.
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Koiranputki
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Ah ha!! I had never even thought about that....I just assumed it was related to your military units.... And maybe this explains a few things ...like when you think you are militarily weak, but the neighbours still don't DOW you....
Ah ha!! I had never even thought about that....I just assumed it was related to your military units.... And maybe this explains a few things ...like when you think you are militarily weak, but the neighbours still don't DOW you....
I noticed the behaviour when I was messing around as Carthage trying some REXing, Gandhi became "Afraid" of me when I began founding new cities but hadn't built a single additional combat unit.
Also, and I want to confirm this again, but choosing the Freedom policy that increases city strength led to a significant "Soldiers" point increase in demographics the next turn.
