[Design] Wonders

Lets discuss wonders design here.
Here is the current wonders list:

Still needed is a discussion as to what bonuses each wonder provides. Ideas anyone?

I'm assuming you have some stats from the CivIII version. It might be easier to see what those are (or use those initially) and then modify as playtesting occurs.

Costs, tech prereqs, and bonuses are tough to visualize without playing.

Yes, I should do that.
Now where did those Civ3 Install disks go...

Reformatted Wonder list for easier readability;
Added National Wonder: Royal Operahouse

Wonder building jpgs for reference...

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/10966/dr_wonders_jpg.zip

Thanks hex. I love pics, but I think I've mentioned that before.

Some of them will not be of much use since they are interior shots, but at least they may spur some ideas.

Even interior shots can sometimes provide a shape and style for the building.

And atmosphere. Sometimes I just need a thread to start with.

Hex, if you have the time...
The new national wonder, Royal Operahouse will need a video. Can you come up with something?

And I just had another thought with the jpgs of all the wonder videos - we can use them to create buttons (64x64) for the wonders. Do you want to take that on and pass on a bmp of it? Or should I take care of that? If you are going to handle it, I have a template of the button border if you need it.

Email me the template - I should be able to get it done sometime next week. Same with the video...I'll get something up and running.

I'm on vacation until the 26th (It was iffy that I would be able to get the time off with all that is happening in the job transition, and even with the time I'm taking off next week, I still have 6 vacation days due me by the end of December), though I will be painting our living room for the next few days.

I was also able to run off some dragonia related miniposters for promotional giveaways this past week. Unfortunately, I will not have that benefit once I transfer to the new job.

Too bad you won't be able to create more miniposters in the future.
I suggest we have a contest to give those out. after the first beta is released. Maybe something to the tune of whoever can win the game at a certain difficulty first and email us the savegame as proof wins a poster. If you hold onto the posters long enough, we can also hold a similar contest for the 2nd beta release and then the final release.

Darque said:

Too bad you won't be able to create more miniposters in the future.

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Well I got 25 of them...

Here are the bonuses for the Wonders in Dragonia I for Civ3:
Gardens of Ehlonna: (Req Farming) +3 Happy in City, +1 Happy in all cities
Great Lighthouse: (Req Map Making) Safe Sea Travel, +1 Ship Movement, +2 Culture
Great Library: (Req Literature) Gain any advances Owned by 2 Civs
Prophet of Istus: (Req Divination) +1 Happy in City, Double Happiness of Shrines
Book of Arlich: (Req Defensive Tactics) Double Combat vs Barbarians, +2 Culture, Free Walls in every city on Continent
Temple of Heironeous: (Req Adv Military Tactics, 5 Temples, Stone) Reduces War Weariness, Increases Chance of Leader Appearance, +3 Culture, Double Temple Happiness, Gain free Barracks in every city on continent, Increased Army Value, Produces Paladins
Temple of Hextor: (Req Adv Military Tactics, 5 Dark Temples, Stone) Reduces War Weariness, Increases chance of Leader Appearance, Increased Army Value, Double Dark Temple Happiness, Gain free Barracks in every city on continent, Increased Army Value, Produces Dark Paladins
Temple of Osprem: (Req Sailing, Stone) +1 Culture, +1 Ship Movement
Metaphysics Lab: (Req Metaphysics) Double Research
Great Theater: (Req Bard's Guild) +8 Happy in City
Grand Smithy of Lycanzar: (Req Magic Items, Iron) +1 Culture, Half Unit Upgrade Cost
Grand Shrine of Lirr: (Req Gods of Good, 5 Libraries) +1 Culture, +2 Happy in City, +2 Happy in all cities, Gain Free Library in all Cities, +50% Research
School of Alchemy: (Req Alchemy) Double Research Output
Caravans of Tristra: (Req Economics) Pays maintenance for trade installations
School of Conjuration: (Req Conjuration) Double Research Output
Great Dam of Khusarik: (Req Terraforming, Stone) +5 Production
Theory of Magic: (Req Magical Philosophy) +2 Free Advances
Palace of the Grand Emporer: (Req Imperial Strength, Power Node, Stone) +6 Culture, Resistant to Propaganda, Reduces Curruption, Allows Diplomatic Victory
School of Divination: (Req Divination) Double Research output
School of Evocation: (Req Evocation) Doubles Research output
Longevity: (Req Magic Mastery) City Growth Causes +2 Citizens instead of +1
School of Elementalism: (Req Elementalism) Doubles Research output
Knights of Pentysis: (Req Adv Military Tactics, Feudalism Gov't, 3 Armies) +4 Culture, Produces Knights, Build Larger Armies, Increases Chance of Leader Appearance
Temple of Kord: (Req Sports, 5 Arenas, Stone) +1 Culture, Produces Heavy Axeman, Double Happiness of Arenas
Temple of Nerull (Req Gods of Evil, Stone) +1 Unhappy in all cities, Double Happiness of Dark Temple, +4 Culture, Produces Dark Paladins
The Grey Tower: (Req Magical Philosophy, Stone) +3 Happy in city, +2 Culture, Double Research Output
Mercenary's Guild: (Req Magic Items, 1 Barracks, Quality Lumber) +2 Culture, Produces Infantry
Temple of Gruumsh: (Req Orcish Pantheon, Stone) +4 Culture, Veteran Ground Units, Double Combat vs Barbarians, Increases Chance of Leader Appearance, Build Larger Armies, Produces Eye of Gruumsh
Temple of Lolth: (Req Drow Pantheon, Stone, Power Node) +4 Culture, Veteran Ground Units, Double Combat Str vs Barbarians, Increases Chance of Leader Appearance, Build Larger Armies, Produces Spider
Citadel Adbar: (Req Dwarven Pantheon, Stone, Power Node) +4 Culture, Veteran Ground Units, Double Combat vs Barbarians, Increases Chance of Leader Appearance, Build Larger Armies, Produces Hammer of Moradin
Temple of Corollan: (Req Elven Pantheon, Stone, Power Node) +4 Culture, Veteran Ground Units, Double Combat Str vs Barbarians, Increases Chance of Leader Appearance, Build Larger Armies, Produces Corellon's Rain
Temple of Pelor: (Req Gods of Good, 5 Temples, Stone) +1 Culture, Veteran Ground Units, +1 Happy in all Cities

Here are the Small Wonders in Dragonia I for Civ3:
Heroic Epic: (Req Victorious Army) +4 Culture, Increases Chance of Leader Appearance
Iron Works: (Req Iron Working, Iron, Quality Lumber) +1 Culture, +4 Production
Baran's Castle: (Req Aristocracy, Quality Lumber, Stone) +4 Culture, Reduces Corruption
Military Academy: (Req Military Tradition, Victorious Army) +3 Culture, Veteran Ground Units, Build Armies without Leader, Increased Army Value
Master Guildhall: (Req Guilds, 10 Merchant Guilds, Quality Lumber) +2 Culture, Treasury Earns 5%
Druid's Grove: (Req Druidism, Druidism Gov't) +2 Culture, +1 Happy in City, +1 Happy in all Cities
Secret of Magical Defense: (Req Magic Mastery, 5 Mage's Towers) Decreases Success of Missile Attacks by 75%
Assasin's Guild: (Req Espionage, Quality Lumber) Allows Spy Missions
Temple of Nola: (Req Medicine, 5 Apothocaries, Stone) +1 Culture, Allows Healing in Enemy Territory

It'll be fun to gradually replace placeholder art with new buildings. Lots of new buildings...

Yes, it will. I think we still need to put the wonder placeholders into place, too. I'll start working on the design for the wonder bonuses too. Feel free to add your own ideas.

hexagonian said:

Email me the template - I should be able to get it done sometime next week. Same with the video...I'll get something up and running.

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New videos look good.

Is there any way to sharpen up the dds wonder/leaderhead buttons? They look extremely fuzzy and blurry - and I know that the BMP files I provided were very crisp and sharp. (as well as the leaderpics)

And a sidenote...The current game runs much smoother for me (no more choppy movie), but I cannot call up the interface ([Alt-I] doesn't work either).

Interface issues can be Custom Assets. If that isn't is blame Darque!