Civ IV: Colonization
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TheLastOne36
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That's a tile you see when you have your mouse over a tile on World builder.
Aha... OK ... I retract my earlier statement.
(I was wondering how borders could be shaped like that if colonies/villages only give a 3 x 3 territory)TheLastOne36
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Aha... OK ... I retract my earlier statement.
a good question is... why is the shot taken on world builder? i assume it's so you have visibility of fog of war.
Zenon_pt
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Be reasonable. In the colonization of the Americas there were 5 main forces/nations. And of course I'm angry by the lack of consideration of guys of Firaxis not consider Portugal once again in the game.
Spain (Central and South America plus Florida)
Netherlands (Caraibs, Surinam and East Coast of US)
Portugal (Brazil, Labrador of Canada)
France (Quebeq, French Guiana and Caraibs)
England/Britan (North America, Guyana and Caraibs)
So why? Why Portugal isn't there again on the game?
Spain (Central and South America plus Florida)
Netherlands (Caraibs, Surinam and East Coast of US)
Portugal (Brazil, Labrador of Canada)
France (Quebeq, French Guiana and Caraibs)
England/Britan (North America, Guyana and Caraibs)
So why? Why Portugal isn't there again on the game?
deanej
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I'm guessing that the focus will be on North America.
Zenon_pt
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If so, Netherlands should not also had a place there. There aren´t no Independence nations in NORTH AMERICA with previous past Netherlands colonization. New Amensterm were conquers be the English, who call it New York.
Jason T
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And as someone pointed out before, knowing which villages wll convert free colonists into that specialty colonist you want is money in the bank!
Jason T
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Actually, the original game already had that. Indian converts produced food (grain and fish), farm based commodities (cotton, sugar, tobacco), and furs better than free colonists, indentured servants, and petty criminals, but worse than specialists. The only problem is that they won't become free colonists until Barolome de las Casas joins Congress, so they can't become specialized.
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Well the one thing I am hoping is that about the time this standalone civ iv scenario is released they also release a patch for the original civ iv
Balderstrom
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@Krikkitone, if Firaxis delays the patch til the release of Colonization they will have seriously damaged their Credibility (beyond what they already have).
That would be TWO game releases, and people have been clamoring for a patch for what... 6+ months now?
I'm starting to lean towards the darkside of that whole debate. If Firaxis doesn't do something soon - I really doubt I will purchase a game at release-time again. I'm not that fanatic of a gamer, I can easily wait for stuff to drop to 10-20 bucks.
That would be TWO game releases, and people have been clamoring for a patch for what... 6+ months now?
I'm starting to lean towards the darkside of that whole debate. If Firaxis doesn't do something soon - I really doubt I will purchase a game at release-time again. I'm not that fanatic of a gamer, I can easily wait for stuff to drop to 10-20 bucks.
Quebec does not have political autonomy. Canada, America and Australia do. They are a cultural nation but not a political one, which is what most people consider when they think in terms of a nation. Your definition is so vague that the old ladie's sewing circle could be considered a nation.
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Again Silesia doesn't have independence, Ossetia doesn't, niether does Tibet or the Mayans, or the lapp, or the zulu or the australian aboriginees or abkhazia, or chechnya, and i could go on for quite a while... if my house declared independence from Poland, and succeeded would that be counted as a Political Nation?
Portugal never settled Labrador, they only discovered it. In fact they never even set foot there, only sailed past. So it's not really accurate to claim that as their territory. It bounced between the French and English until the English finally took over all French territory in what is now Canada.
The game begins at the very early stage of the colonization period, which means that The Netherlands does indeed belong there. They had a number of thriving colonies there for quite awhile. In fact they still do in the Caribbean.
I'm getting really tired of trying to explain the distinction to you. If you fail to see it then it's your problem. Quebec is a province within the country of Canada, plain and simple. They're no more a nation than the your own Opole Voivodeship is.
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Actually, The french only had small fishing villages on the southern coast, and never really colonize it. After the Treaty of Paris, the french only had fishing rights in southern Newfoundland.
I love being european yet having canadian education.
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I don't see the point your trying to make, i think emotion is getting in the way of actual facts..
Yes, you're getting on my nerves.
Isn't the definition of colonization having settlements in an area? You can argue that it's still not colonized, since there really isn't much there to this day.
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