Leaderscreen Elimination Thread

Washington- 10 (+1) I don't know why Washington is down so many points. There are other leaderscreens that are just plain and boring.
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 5 (-3) Dang, I wanted to vote Oda out with the bland Windows XP background, but Gandhi's screen is pretty bad too...
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 17
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 14
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 14
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 19
Enrico Dandolo- 19
Shaka- 23
 
Don't forget holywar's post.

Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 5
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 14
Genghis Khan- 20
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 11
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 14
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 20
Shaka- 23

+1 Enrico: I like the background, I like the colours, I like his clothes, I like his posing, but most of all I like the voice. Fits him perfectly and the acting is great too, amigo mio.

-3 Suleiman: I like his character but something about the leaderscreen doesn't make it particularly pretty to look at, something to do with the colours or the lighting.
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 5
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 14
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 11
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 14
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 23


+1 to Dandy again. Great voice acting fitting the character model, Venice looks awesome at night, his clothes look cool and comfy. Dandy is a nice, huggable grandpa in Civ 5, but he should definitely eat a bit more.

The steppe may be fitting Genghis, but meh... It's kind of bland. Not sure if he deserves the vote because at least he isn't a vegetarian (as evidenced by him telling us to eat sausage), but -3 nonetheless as he shouldn't be at 20.
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 2
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 14
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 11
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 23

Gandhi - It's not exactly his background that annoys me. It's simple and non-representative, but at least is beautiful. What really pisses me off is his constant expression of weakness and passivity, specially when at war

Askia - Got to defend the man: his leaderscreen is incredibly beuatiful, with the sunset behind the hills and the climax around the burning city. His clothes, his beard and his sword are also awesome
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18
Pachacuti- 21
Gandhi- 0 - ELIMINATED
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 14
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 11
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24

I'll go ahead and finish off Gandhi here, then. Considering the iconic Indian architecture they could have used, going with the non-representative successories background is silly and off.

Shaka, on the other hand, feels like he's a part of his background, not just in front of it. The whole thing feels captivating and alive.
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 24
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 14 + 1 = 15 - I like Bismarck's leaderscreen. Though it was better in that early concept video where he had advisers in the background plotting out diplomatic/military strategy around that table, it still gives the feeling that you're meeting with one of the greatest statesmen of the 19th Century.
Alexander- 15
Attila- 18 - 3 = 15 - Come on, this is the Scourge of God! What's he doing sitting on a throne with cut-rate treasure about him? He should be on a horse going and pillaging!
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 14
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 11
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24
 
cpm4001 said:
Bismarck- 14 + 1 = 15 - I like Bismarck's leaderscreen. Though it was better in that early concept video where he had advisers in the background plotting out diplomatic/military strategy around that table, it still gives the feeling that you're meeting with one of the greatest statesmen of the 19th Century.
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Where can I see this concept?
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 25 I like the firelight effects, his animation, the cheers in the background...I mean this is one scary dude and he's got his people behind him.
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-17
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 15
Alexander- 15
Attila- 15
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 11 a wimpy looking guy in Monty's headdress and none of the cool effects that make Monty's so great.
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 11
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 25
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 22
Ramesses II-14
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 16
Alexander- 15
Attila- 15
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 11
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 11
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24

Bismarck's leaderscreen is pretty good. The Iron Chancellor himself looks great and his emotions complete the scene. The background may be somewhat bland but it reminds me of the paining "The proclamation of the German Empire".

Ramesses has a nice background but he looks really bad himself. His body is too deformed.

Veras said:
Where can I see this concept?
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Link to video.
 
Sagax said:
I have the same feelings about Wu Zetian....

I think the consensus here is "visuals first, voice and music later". But you can vote against Sejong if his voice is so terrible for you that it ruins the entire leaderscreen. I will eventually do this to Wu for sure.
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And I think I will do it for Dido, Pacal, Augustus (nebby is down), and maybe Darius (Aramic?).
 
Dostayer said:
...and maybe Darius (Aramic?).
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And not for Ramesses who speaks completelly unrelated language which wasn't around for 1700 years after his reign, considering there was a possibility to use much more appropriate language?
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 25
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 19
Ramesses II-14
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 16
Alexander- 15
Attila- 15
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 11
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 12
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24

I love Ottoman Palace with cool music and beard and belly of our Mighty Sultan. :D

For God's sake William looks like a clown.
 
TheLohoped said:
And not for Ramesses who speaks completelly unrelated language which wasn't around for 1700 years after his reign, considering there was a possibility to use much more appropriate language?
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With Ramesses I might Accept the excuse of "there is no pronouncement rules of the language", but giving him Arabic is really shame, considering what is happening in reality in Egypt.
Oh and the Persian Language is still alive, it is not a Dead language (though it is different than what was spoken back in the Achaemenid Empire, and even from the Sassanid)
And Nebby should have Aramic IMHO, But Akkadian is still acceptable, though it doesn't sounds like a Semitic language at all to me with the way he pronounce it (and I speak Hebrew).
 
Dostayer said:
With Ramesses I might Accept the excuse of "there is no pronouncement rules of the language", The Persian Language is still alive, but giving him Arabic is really shame, considering what is happening in reality in Egypt.
And Nebby should have Aramic IMHO, But Akkadian is still acceptable, though it doesn't sounds like a Semitic language at all to me with the way he pronounce it (and I speak Hebrew).
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Would Coptic be a more sensible language to use then?
 
Washington- 10
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 25
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 19
Ramesses II-14
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 16
Alexander- 15
Attila- 15
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 11+1=12, why is everyone bashing Pacal for not being like Monty:mad:, he's not supposed to be a clone of him, and the background is epic! with that glorious Mayan city!, and his laugh is epic too!
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 12
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 19-3=16, a little too dark for my tastes, only part I like is the Polish eagle on the door, his voice sounds a bit too high pitched
Kamehameha- 19
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24
 
Washington- 7 I don't have any objections to Washington himself, but nothing about his office says "Colonial America" to me. Maybe they could have had him stand in front of (or within) Independence Hall?
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 25
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 19
Ramesses II-14
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 16
Alexander- 15
Attila- 15
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 13 I like Pacal's background. I think his headdress is distinct from Montezuma's. I also feel that Pacal manages an air of melancholy and quiet menace; his leaderscreen is subtle where Monty's is over-the-top.
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 12
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 16
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24
 
Washington- 7
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 25
Pedro II- 21
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 19
Ramesses II-11 - I always found his arms and legs disproportionately thin and small. At this stage of elimination such things start to matter.
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 16
Alexander- 15
Attila- 15
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 14 - you don't need the Mayans to be as menacing as the Aztecs. Surprisingly, both Pacal and Pachacuti's screens are peaceful yet they have their own unique vibe. Giving my vote to Pacal, because "+1 Monty, -3 Pacal" Monty fans are just jealous of his bigger feather crown :p
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 12
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 16
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24
 
Washington- 7
Harun al-Rashid- 23
Ashurbanipal- 25
Maria Theresa- 22
Montezuma- 25
Pedro II- 18 Nice office but compared to the others, it's a rather dull background.
Theodora- 20
Dido- 21
Boudicca- 22
Wu Zetian- 14
Harald Bluetooth -23
William- 19
Ramesses II- 11
Elizabeth- 14
Haile Selassie- 21
Bismarck- 16
Alexander- 15
Attila- 16 Rather ordinary background but his character is portrayed very well. His introductory speech (when you first meet him) is an example of that, with his proud and wrathful proclamation that he is Attila.
Pachacuti- 21
Gajah Mada- 21
Sejong- 21
Pacal - 14
Genghis Khan- 17
Ahmad al-Mansur- 15
Suleiman- 12
Darius I- 14
Casimir III- 16
Maria I- 21
Augustus Caesar- 18
Catherine- 11
Pocatello- 21
Ramkhamhaeng- 18
Askia- 15
Isabella- 21
Gustavus Adolphus- 20
Enrico Dandolo- 21
Shaka- 24
 
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