I managed to get an actually relatively comfortable (well, after the anxious beginning and horrible middle) win on my first Immortal game, but I'm wondering now if it was because of luck and my choice of Civ, since I was Korea and started with a lot of salt and had a mountain with even more salt and some wheat around for my second (and only other city for which I actually built the settler, with a long river that ran between the two cities. If I had gotten, say, a jungle start with jungle plantation resources and a Civ like, say, Hiawatha, would I have probably failed at my first Immortal attempt? I'm still a bit wiped out from that game to start another Immortal or try out Deity right now, but I'm definitely going to try again in the future. For now I just want to get a feeling for how often people win and lose on Emperor/Immortal/Deity.