Patroklos
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EPIC own goal. Just like most of the RACISM posts have been in this thread. Yours, however, deserved special recognition
US Gov't Sues Arizona Over Immigration Law
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EPIC own goal. Just like most of the RACISM posts have been in this thread. Yours, however, deserved special recognition
Why stop them? They provide cheap reliable labor. We should make it easier for them to be here for work purposes.
I agree, but I didn't really want to embarrass you by calling it out as such.
Who said anything about reducing those quotas?
Patroklos
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Our quotas are based one what we think our society can reasonably assimilate, distributed equitably throught the world. They take projected illegal immigration into account. So while the quotas for Latin American nations are also reduced (way to screw yourselves La Raza) their citizens get in anyway, while those unfortunate enough to have a ocean in the way are out of luck.
But like I said, its all about the Latinos. Who cares about these Asians/Africans/Europeans.
But like I said, its all about the Latinos. Who cares about these Asians/Africans/Europeans.
Can we apply the quotas retroactively and send some of the Irish packing? That would free up some population availability so we didn't need to reduce the quotas for everyone else.
But if the current quota stem takes into account illegals, then making the illegals legal should not change the other quotas.
But if the current quota stem takes into account illegals, then making the illegals legal should not change the other quotas.
You will have to pry my Latina maid from my cold dead hands.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Not every Mexican who comes across the border does so to immigrate. Many of them have legitimate work visas issued by the federal government. Unfortunately, there are far too many hoops both the employer and the employee have to jump through for the program to be as viable as it should be for agricultural workers and other low-paying jobs. Most other developed countries don't seem to have all these problems with such a simple notion for some odd reason.
Because the law doesn't specifically prevent racial profiling, it promotes racial profiling.
...Is the gist of the argument.
PeteAtoms
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Obviously the whole system is broken anyway, everyone knows that white people get off when blacks and minorities would be sent to prison. The death penalty is racist, obviously. But that is off topic.
If police officers can abuse their powers, they will abuse their powers... that what the gist of it seems to be.
And if a Mexican-American police officer happens to make the stop/arrest, my mind will implode.
If police officers can abuse their powers, they will abuse their powers... that what the gist of it seems to be.
And if a Mexican-American police officer happens to make the stop/arrest, my mind will implode.
Merkinball
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The fact that it's not a felony doesn't mean it's not a crime... If you want to say that they're not violent felons, then do so. Let's not be completely disingenuous and pretend that illegal aliens aren't breaking federal laws in a criminal fashion.
Logical fail.
Yes it does. It's called protecting it's citizenry. If the government is going to pre-empt the Arizona law that looks to uphold a federal regulation, then I think you and thousands of other people would all about striking down "sanctuary cities" that violate the federal governments constitutional responsibilities to combat illegal immigration.
There is nothing in the language of the law that is discriminatory on the basis of race. You're assuming that racial profiling will occur and that the law will be abused. Well golly gee, if we're gonna start suing people because a law might be abused, we might as well just resign ourselves to anarchy.
Actually, there's been all kinds of articles talking about how illegal aliens are fleeing Arizona in the wake of this legislation. Illegal immigration is a lot easier to police than drugs. And ironically, if we actually police illegal immigration, it will make it a hell of a lot easier to police the importation and production of illegal drugs. Unfortunately for us we have a system in place that really doesn't give a hoot about drugs or illegal aliens. Addicts are a potential voting block and illegal aliens are an even larger one.
You mean the constitutional right to not have to support people who are here legally? The constitutional right to live in a safe area? The constitutional right to not have to police illegal immigrants if you live in the city of Phoenix? The constitutional right to not have to fund huge warehouses full of drugs seized from illegal immigrants? The constitutional right to self-preservation?
Who knew that Hispanics had the constitutional right to violate federal laws, and live anywhere they want, simply because they're hispanic and represent the largest group of federal law breakers...
Did you also note that Arizona is STILL one of the most crime ridden states? Did you note that Phoenix has the fifth highest violent crime rate in the nation? It's ridiculous for people like you to even insinuate that Arizona doesn't have a serious crime problem that's almost entirely due to illegal immigration. Phoenix - kidnapping capital of North America. It's old retirees in Mesa and the Native Americans at work.
There's bigotry everywhere. Bigots existing doesn't mean that a piece of legislation violates federal law.
If police officers are enforcing the law as it is written, zero.
I guess the federal law is illegal. No more immigration policies! Open borders poor people from other countries! Have fun!
And garnered the attention of officers via some nefarious action.
Because the police can be sued by any person for failing to racial profile.
Even the cops are divided on whether the law is good or bad.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1986080,00.html
Like summoning the police in a domestic violence situation?
Merkinball said:
Not anymore than an 18 year old drinking alcohol, no. Also, I didn't say violent felons, I said felons, which would include nonviolent ones.
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Criminals obviously don't deserve police protection - just police persecution along with anybody else who happens to look like them. That's not rasist. It is common sense.
Merkinball
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Being abused domestically makes it okay to be a criminal?
Which is also a crime. And let's not kid ourselves, illegal immigration is massively more devastating to America than 18 year olds drinking alcohol.
A majority of economists agree illegal immigration is a net benefit to the US economy.
Contrary to popular belief, many (most?) illegal immigrants pay taxes and get nothing back. They also may be bolstering Social Security to the tune of a $7 billion subsidy each year in free money.
Contrary to popular belief, many (most?) illegal immigrants pay taxes and get nothing back. They also may be bolstering Social Security to the tune of a $7 billion subsidy each year in free money.
Who said criminal? I was playing along with the foreign looking and thick accent assertion as valid criteria by someone on your side of the debate. Someone who could still be a citizen and want to report domestic abuse without being hauled to the nearest ICE facility. As fo law-abiding, it is likely that most citizens have committed criminal acts. Very few never speed, never jaywalk, never drank underage, etc.
So once again, we are down to foreign looking and heavy accent.
