If you're not born in this country and your father was not born here, you're not a citizen, even if you've lived here your entire life. Disgusting.
American WW2 Vet Discovers He's Not Even a U.S. Citizen!
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If you're not born in this country and your father was not born here, you're not a citizen, even if you've lived here your entire life. Disgusting.
Just as a clarification, he didn't discover he's not a US citizen, he discovered he has no proof of it.
The law is gender neutral now, retroactive to 1960 I think. That's how I got my UK passport.
The law is gender neutral now, retroactive to 1960 I think. That's how I got my UK passport.
Patroklos
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You don't have to be a citizen to join the US military. Some have no intention of being a US citizen. I have two who are of this opinion.
Honorable service is looked on very favorably by immigration officials, I have helped several of my sailors get their citizenship over the years.
This was obviously a comedy of errors primarily the fault of his parents. If they had just done the obvious he would be a citizen now. I think the chance of this guy not getting rubber stamped based on this is slim to none, don't get your panties bunched
I do not think automatic citizenship based on service is a good idea, as I don't think it would send the right message to foriegn recruits. As it is now service is makes you a shoe in, but automatic citizenship takes something away from the process in my opinion.
You're an American, living in Canada, with a British passport? Any national confusion at all?
My mom's from Birmingham. Well, just outside. Don't hold it against her, she left before she could speak. My granny was born in Kenya, so you could even say I'm a quarter African American
There was a lesser known provision in The Dream Act to giver veterans legal residency if they are not citizens. But it was shot down recently.
This probably isn't as uncommon as you might think. My mum was born as a British citizen* and thought she was a New Zealand citizen until she went to apply for a passport at 25.
* She was born in a British military hospital outside of the main base. Under the rules of the time if she had been born in the base she would have become a citizen of the country of her parents - New Zealand. But as she was born outside of the base on British soil she became a British citizen upon birth instead. Strangely, when she went to apply for the passport they couldn't decide whether she was British or Singaporean. So as I understand it the immigration guy let it slide...
* She was born in a British military hospital outside of the main base. Under the rules of the time if she had been born in the base she would have become a citizen of the country of her parents - New Zealand. But as she was born outside of the base on British soil she became a British citizen upon birth instead. Strangely, when she went to apply for the passport they couldn't decide whether she was British or Singaporean. So as I understand it the immigration guy let it slide...
After their service in the Imperial legions, Roman legionaries (legionnaires are French) received a large sum of money, often used to buy tracts of land on which to farm. Based on the rich agricultural returns of the time, that could be a very generous pension indeed.
Nobody
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bloody illegal immigrants sucking up welfare
MobBoss
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Citizenship should never be 'automatic' regardless of the situation. I agree it should be expedited by virtue of that service however (timelines shortened, fees waived etc.).....but there still should be a process thats ongoing.
And dont go overboard on the hype. He isnt being 'spit on', in fact, people are trying to care for him and help him out. Ease up.
He better not travel to Arizona or he will be thrown in jail when he can't show his papers.
This may sound snarky, but in the Land of the Free, why do you need compulsory identity papers? In Britain, there was uproar when ID cards were proposed and they were eventually shelved due to such hostile reaction against them.
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My grandfather had a similar issue. He didn't find out he wasn't a citizen until he enlisted during WWII. He was born in Scotland, and his father parents with him illegally when he was a baby, so no Citizenship.
If you're a citizen, you have no requirement to carry ID. If you're a permanent resident (green card) you are required to keep that card on you at all times.
MagisterCultuum
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Does this mean that you've finally come around to my side of opposing the concept of Natural Birth Citizenship?
NickyJ
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For some people, rules are rules, and the plan is good here. Deport him? If I agree with the rest of this post, then I would say yes.
Rules are rules are rules. Can't get around them.Anyway, like MobBoss said, people are trying to help him out. This is a non issue.
Why help out one of the longest running offenders?
Formaldehyde
Both Fair And Balanced
Good point. If he had been a Latino instead of a white Canadian, the story would be about an illegal alien who evaded the law for nearly 95 years, sired generations of anchor babies, unlawfully collected Social Security, and even illegally served in the US military while risking national security.
MobBoss
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I dont think thats true for a minute.
