Help with RoM AND scenario making.

Spirictum · Jul 18, 2014

Sogroon said:
I wonder how Canada can be made a Brittish vassal?
IIRC a vassal alvays break away when reaching a size in land, oruginal land and population compared to its master.

Which makes sense if Britain lose several territories when WW1 ends. We should still try to see which territories will be made vassals and which will be fully integrated for the vassals not to break as soon as the map starts.

It's a good point sogroon, and will need to be seen carefully.

If I can take a look at some things deeper in the code, maybe we can make Commonwealth nations AI be more friendly and passive to britain.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 18, 2014

Lord Bigfoot said:
Ok really bad news. The mod now won't work with the mega civ pack but it works just fine with the leaderhead pack. So until this gets fixed the scenario will now only include stock AND civs.(Which is probably for the better since it means more people can play it now.)

Bumping for the new page.

Spirictum · Jul 18, 2014

Lord Bigfoot said:
Bumping for the new page.

I don't think it's hard to make it work, I could take a look on that too, but for now I think we shouldn't care. We have plenty of things to do about the civs already part of AND. The biggest and most important countries are already on AND, like US, UK, Russia, France, Germany, China, Japan. And there is plenty to do about them (the British fleet for example is so huge it has been hard to finish it).

I'll have some time now so I'll take a look at Inca to see how to change it to Peru and try to dig AI behavior towards specific Civs, Civics and stuff

Spirictum · Jul 18, 2014

Well, I know how to make a mod. You make a folder on the mods folder and every file you have there overrides the original one. That's the basic. If something isn't specified on the files, the originals are consulted.

But now how to make custom scenarios?

If I want to make new LH.xml to portray better the leaders of the scenario, how do I do it? Any dev could answer me this?

If we may do it Bigfoot, it seems rather easy not only to get a LH for Peru, but also to create Afghanistan. Also there is an afghan civ in the database (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=344879) and its leader is a political figure of the XXth century, what's even better. Some small adjustments will have to be made on the civ, UU and UB, but besides this it's ok.

But let's leave this for later.

Also, what's your plan about the Leaders? The scenario starts on 1900, but I imagine you're not planning on making changing leaders like RFC, so what's your criteria for Leaders? Will there be more then one option when possible?

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 20, 2014

Spirictum said:
Also, what's your plan about the Leaders? The scenario starts on 1900, but I imagine you're not planning on making changing leaders like RFC, so what's your criteria for Leaders? Will there be more then one option when possible?

Well I was going to use the random start Giant Earth Map and using the unlimited leader option choose the leaders that look closets to the ones that ruled the nations in 1900. Then I was going to edit the names in the WBS file.

Spirictum · Jul 24, 2014

Update on the English Fleet. I think the number of Early Destroyers and Pre-Dreadnoughts is final. Only the rest remains

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 27, 2014

Awesome. So already seeing some strategies for each nation that i've come across in my own research. For example the US has a surprisingly small navy compared to the amount of ocean it has to cover. A crash building program for pre-dreadnoughts is a must to help protect the nations coast. Russia of course is build up industry ASAP while the UK is more or less try to keep with the status quo.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 28, 2014

Ok I finally figured out what the heck is causing the errors. It's the SVN! That's messing with it! So until the mega-civ pack gets updated I won't be using the mega-civ pack.

Spirictum · Jul 28, 2014

Lord Bigfoot said:
Ok I finally figured out what the heck is causing the errors. It's the SVN! That's messing with it! So until the mega-civ pack gets updated I won't be using the mega-civ pack.

It's ok, just start making the civs that already come with AND, and then we may add each Mega Civ Pack civ separately.

Just be careful with the SVN. With all the changes coming in fast, it may give you more effort just to change things when they change in SVN. I have no idea how to deal with this yet though.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 28, 2014

Spirictum said:
It's ok, just start making the civs that already come with AND, and then we may add each Mega Civ Pack civ separately.

Just be careful with the SVN. With all the changes coming in fast, it may give you more effort just to change things when they change in SVN. I have no idea how to deal with this yet though.

Yeah I think i'm not going to update it again as I don't want to have the halt the scenario. I just now have to compare the RL leaders to the available leaderheads and I can finally start placing civs!

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 28, 2014

Ok so i'll make a list of leaders that were ruling at the time the scenario takes place and we do have leaderheads for.

Spoiler :

This is the list of leaders that died shortly before the time the mod takes place that we do have leaderheads for. Whether or not we do use these ones will be disused later.

Spoiler :

List of leaders that were alive at the time the scenario takes place but weren't in power yet.

Spoiler :

As you can see we're lacking big time on the leaderhead front. How easy is it to add in leaderheads? If it's fairly easy I might just see if missing ones are available for download and just add them in.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 29, 2014

Ok update time! I'm finally going to start working on a basic version of the scenario! This will be me more or less figuring out which cities to have, where exactly they'll need to be placed, how large each city should be and what building they should have. This may or may not end up becoming the scenario I end up uploading depending on if we can make the mega-civ pack work again. Also I won't worry about the leaderheads looking like the person they should at the moment.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 29, 2014

Found another list from Wikipedia that'll help. This one has the list of state leaders in each country at the time the scenario takes place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_state_leaders_in_1900

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 29, 2014

Ok messed up a bit but this is my first scenario and I did say this would be a basic version. So what I messed up on was forgetting to add stand-in civs like the Aztec's as Mexico. I also have two France's as well. Also have placed some cities and screenshots for you to look over will be up soon.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 29, 2014

One of these two will be DC.

Chicago either goes here or is one south.

This will be renamed to New Orleans.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 29, 2014

Pretty sure i'm not even close to where Bejing should go.

Liking where Seoul is but maybe put in one tile southeast?

Not that sure about Kyoto.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 29, 2014

That's Siam and Khmer. Maybe remove one of them for balance?

Madrid looks like it's in the perfect spot.

I'm happy with everything except where Paris is. I'm thinking it's a bit south.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 30, 2014

Don't really like where Berlin is located even though it looks right,

Pretty sure that's not even close to where Persia should be.

I think Mecca is a bit south of where it should be.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 30, 2014

Pretty happy with both Greece and Ottoman's city location.

I plan on renaming it to Cairo but still think it's in the wrong spot.

Honestly this is my best guess at where it should go. Think i'm pretty spot on though.

Lord Bigfoot · Jul 30, 2014

Plan on renaming it to Saint Petersburg. Pretty sure it's in the right place.

Vikings will be the stand in for Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland.(Finland will be taken over by Russia of course.) Had no clue where to put a city for them so I put one there for now.

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