ruff_hi
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thx Psyringe - good catch.
Unit Naming
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Cammagno
King
Thanks
Edit:
The strange thing is that I had the advanced naming set to 0, so it had to ignore that convention... something wrong here, I suppose...
@ Ruff
I suggest that we provide a BUG.ini file with all the unit-naming options set to DEFAULT, in particular the advanced ones... we'll avoid a lot of questions.
Then maybe we can add a couple examples to the readme about using the advanced options... what do you think about this?
Edit:
I also suggest to include a "Use Advanced Options" check box in the Option screen.
EmperorFool
Deity
^^ +1
All very good suggestions, Cammagno.
All very good suggestions, Cammagno.
ruff_hi
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Thanks
Edit:
The strange thing is that I had the advanced naming set to 0, so it had to ignore that convention... something wrong here, I suppose...
@ Ruff
I suggest that we provide a BUG.ini file with all the unit-naming options set to DEFAULT, in particular the advanced ones... we'll avoid a lot of questions.
Then maybe we can add a couple examples to the readme about using the advanced options... what do you think about this?
Edit:
I also suggest to include a "Use Advanced Options" check box in the Option screen.
Alerumn suggested moving the advanced naming options to a different ini file ... the coding for that defeated me. I took out the 'use advanced' a while back and changed the code to (in order) ...
check for unit / era
check for combat type
check for global
We can put the advanced option back ... any yeas or nays?
EmperorFool
Deity
You currently got a note on the options tab saying that the advanced options are in the INI. I'd change that by putting a checkbox on the tab "Use Advanced Settings (see INI file)", killing two birds with one stone.
If you check that box, it should ignore all the formats on the tab (combat type and global), unless of course the unit being named as "DEFAULT" as its format.
I haven't played with it yet, but does it fallback as I just described? If you have Ancient Archer set to DEFAULT, will it use Combat Type Archer's format, falling back to the Global format if CTA's is DEFAULT? That's what I inferred, but I'm not sure.
In fact, maybe change "Use Advanced Options" to be "Use Advanced Era/Type Formats" so the user knows what they'll get if they enable it without having to open the INI file. Minor suggestion, and maybe there's better wording. Of course, the hover text can be fully descriptive, so maybe ignore this.
If you check that box, it should ignore all the formats on the tab (combat type and global), unless of course the unit being named as "DEFAULT" as its format.
I haven't played with it yet, but does it fallback as I just described? If you have Ancient Archer set to DEFAULT, will it use Combat Type Archer's format, falling back to the Global format if CTA's is DEFAULT? That's what I inferred, but I'm not sure.
In fact, maybe change "Use Advanced Options" to be "Use Advanced Era/Type Formats" so the user knows what they'll get if they enable it without having to open the INI file. Minor suggestion, and maybe there's better wording. Of course, the hover text can be fully descriptive, so maybe ignore this.
ruff_hi
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This is what the code does. I'll put the 'Advanced' option back in with a very long hover text.
Cammagno
King
now all units are being named default........... literally !!
My mistake, sorry
Already fixed.
ruff_hi
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I've done it. It isn't pretty but it works (sorry EP). I've managed to move the advanced unit name codes out of the bug mod.ini file and into an ini file of their own. The advanced unit naming conventions are now in a separate ini file (Adv Unit Naming.ini). To use this file, you must check the 'use advanced' option.
So, the code does this ...
So, the code does this ...
PHP:
if use advanced, try to get unitnameconv from separate advanced ini file else unitnameconv = default
if not default, return
get combat unitnameconv
if not default, return
get default unitnameconv
returnCammagno
King
PHP:
# Advanced optional naming conventions based on ERA and UNIT CLASS
see other ini file (Adv Unit Naming.ini)I'm not a py expert, but before the second line probably a "#" is missing... but I'm not sure of how comments works in py...
ruff_hi
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errr - might be an error. Which file?
Cammagno
King
BUG Mod.ini
Thornburgh
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I think the idea of unit names is really cool. I like to see how a unit evolves over time. E.g., see centuries later that this was my capitol's first unit, etc.
However, the long names mess up the mouse over display, preventing stats from appearing on the same line as the name, usually with an awkward line break. This has caused me to revert to normal short names. Any ideas on how to fix that?
Thanks!
However, the long names mess up the mouse over display, preventing stats from appearing on the same line as the name, usually with an awkward line break. This has caused me to revert to normal short names. Any ideas on how to fix that?
Thanks!
ruff_hi
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Yes - set up your own naming convention but with short names ... eg "Axe 4"
EmperorFool
Deity
If you want to keep long names and have less wrapping, you'd need to modify the C++ DLL to specify a wider hover area. Unfortunately, this isn't done from Python code.
I am getting more and more tempted to add some features to the DLL. I hesitated before because I used BetterAI, but now that it's baked into the game, I might go for it. It would still be unaltered gameplay, but I'd probably package it separately from BUG.
However, I'm short on time so this is still just an idea. I'd like to add other things to the hover text:
I am getting more and more tempted to add some features to the DLL. I hesitated before because I used BetterAI, but now that it's baked into the game, I might go for it. It would still be unaltered gameplay, but I'd probably package it separately from BUG.
However, I'm short on time so this is still just an idea. I'd like to add other things to the hover text:
- City: culter and GP turns, happiness and health
- Units: the latest PLE adds some nice things I think. For one, the minimum movement points for a stack of selected units.
Sam_Yeager
Another Original Geezer
The big problem with that is that anyone who wants to use a DLL mod for something else e.g. the BTS 3.13 unofficial patch is stuffed.
EDIT: I realise that those who are handy with C++ could merge changes in but a lot of us lack those skills.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
as long as the dll changes are separate from the BUG, then it wouldn't be a problem.
also, i was wondering if it was possible to get rid of the "(unit type)" naming that is still displayed once you change a unit's name, eg, my units read: "1st Rome Swordsmans (Swordsman)" ~ is that deletable??
also, i was wondering if it was possible to get rid of the "(unit type)" naming that is still displayed once you change a unit's name, eg, my units read: "1st Rome Swordsmans (Swordsman)" ~ is that deletable??
ruff_hi
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No. Nothing we can do about that.
EmperorFool
Deity
Don't worry. Any changes I made to the DLL would be complete separate and unneeded by BUG. It would truly be an "extra" feature you could install. If I did it, I'd probably install it with BUG as "game.dll.removethisextensiontoinstall" or something. It would be unused by default and not clash with anything.
But this is a loooong way off.
But this is a loooong way off.
ruff_hi
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We've had reports of unit naming occurring even when it is disabled.
I guess I should have read the write up. What is 'Varietas Delectat 4.0 mod'?
I got some saves from this game but ...
I guess I should have read the write up. What is 'Varietas Delectat 4.0 mod'?
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