FfH2 0.25 Changelog

Kwaichang · Oct 9, 2007

Kael said:
So its not anything about the map, you would assume that remains the same between the save and load. Im thinking you may need more memory to play the larger map sizes.

I've been experiencing the same problem and I have 3GB of RAM.

Sureshot · Oct 9, 2007

is it a bug that woodsman is only +20%? cause thats a useless promotion now heh, much better off with combat1 which gives +20% strength everywhere

TheJopa · Oct 9, 2007

Sureshot said:
is it a bug that woodsman is only +20%? cause thats a useless promotion now heh, much better off with combat1 which gives +20% strength everywhere

Noticed that as well!

Turinturambar · Oct 9, 2007

grumpylad said:
Has anyone else managed to get werewolves to generate? I tried a couple of days ago without success

Yup I got a few. It was with patch e though which apparently fixed it.

Sureshot · Oct 10, 2007

might be nice to let units get copper/iron/mithril weapons in their allies cities (for permanent alliances or team games)

MagisterCultuum · Oct 10, 2007

Is there a way to let buildings modify the GPP that specialists in that city provide? I would love it if the Gregori citizen specialists could be made to provide some adventurer points (I tried to do this in .22, but couldn't figure out how).

Sureshot · Oct 10, 2007

that reminds me, what about unhappy citizens? havent heard anything about the Governors manor for calabim and whether it does anything. i really liked the idea of their unhappy citizens giving +1 production

TheJopa · Oct 11, 2007

Sureshot said:
that reminds me, what about unhappy citizens? havent heard anything about the Governors manor for calabim and whether it does anything. i really liked the idea of their unhappy citizens giving +1 production

AFAIK the manor is broken, but it's a nice concept.

BlazeRedSXT · Oct 11, 2007

Not sure if this would be the correct thread, as my concern isn't exactly a bug... anyway, it seems that there has been some back and forth about the method to deal with UUs and UnitClass info. For several versions before 25, specual units unitclasses did not have a default unit, so in the CivilizationInfos, you could simply leave that Unitclass out, Made for a smaller more simple CivInfo file.
It seems in 25, now all UnitClass have a default unit, so.. Like so

Ver 23c

Code:

[B]CIV4CivilizationInfos[/B]
               <Unit>
                    <UnitClassType>UNITCLASS_DONAL</UnitClassType>
                    <UnitType>UNIT_DONAL</UnitType>
                </Unit>
[B]CIV4UnitClassInfos[/B]
		<UnitClassInfo>
			<Type>UNITCLASS_DONAL</Type>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_UNIT_DONAL</Description>
			<iMaxGlobalInstances>1</iMaxGlobalInstances>
			<iMaxTeamInstances>-1</iMaxTeamInstances>
			<iMaxPlayerInstances>-1</iMaxPlayerInstances>
			<DefaultUnit>NONE</DefaultUnit>
		</UnitClassInfo>

Ver 25

Code:

[B]CIV4CivilizationInfos[/B]
                <Unit>
                    <UnitClassType>UNITCLASS_WILBOMAN</UnitClassType>
                    <UnitType>NONE</UnitType>
                </Unit>
[B]CIV4UnitClassInfos[/B]
		<UnitClassInfo>
			<Type>UNITCLASS_WILBOMAN</Type>
			<Description>TXT_KEY_UNIT_WILBOMAN</Description>
			<iMaxGlobalInstances>1</iMaxGlobalInstances>
			<iMaxTeamInstances>-1</iMaxTeamInstances>
			<iMaxPlayerInstances>-1</iMaxPlayerInstances>
			<iInstanceCostModifier>0</iInstanceCostModifier>
			<DefaultUnit>UNIT_WILBOMAN</DefaultUnit>
		</UnitClassInfo>

Just wanted to make sure that you all knew what I was talking about... Will there be a standardization of this method at some point? a reason to go back to this model?

Cheers!

Kael · Oct 11, 2007

Yeah, to be honest I had to jump between methods to avoid game engine rewrite problems. If I remember correctly the latest one was that the AI assumes there will be a default unit assigned that it evaluates for some of its decisions. Having NONE in there as I did on 23c was causing crashes.

Ploeperpengel · Oct 12, 2007

Kael said:
Yeah, to be honest I had to jump between methods to avoid game engine rewrite problems. If I remember correctly the latest one was that the AI assumes there will be a default unit assigned that it evaluates for some of its decisions. Having NONE in there as I did on 23c was causing crashes.

I had several entries of this kind in Warhammer before. Maybe this explains those many random ctds I had

Good to know about that now! I thought this was just for pediadisplayreasons.

Nevercme · Oct 17, 2007

Since I am now using this version should I start post my finding here now? By findings I mean the issues I have seen and recorded. Or do I just use the old one for the betas?

So I don't add any more than I need to I will reply here.

Ok I will try there then. I didn't even realize that there was a bug thread. *Slaps Head* Thank you for responding Magister.

MagisterCultuum · Oct 17, 2007

If you mean bugs, then try the .25 bug thread (it is stickied, so it will always be at or near the top)

Basil II · Oct 17, 2007

Sureshot said:
is it a bug that woodsman is only +20%? cause thats a useless promotion now heh, much better off with combat1 which gives +20% strength everywhere

Isn't Woodsmen +30? And Elves get +10 base so they still have the old +40...

Basil II · Oct 17, 2007

The birds arent working with them anymore/right now correct?

Cruel · Nov 20, 2007

When I change to Hyborean my game is broken. I can change everything but don´t pass the turn.

JDexter · Nov 20, 2007

Update to the latest patch.

IF that doesn't help you can save while it's "broken" (quicksave definitely works during the waiting!). On reload the next turn starts.

TravellingHat · Nov 21, 2007

I've not been able to get that save/load fix to work. I'm having infrequent hanging on Waiting For, and I can save but if I reload, it just loads back into the hang, not into the next turn. It's not that often, but it is frustrating when it does happen. Had to bin an excellent Amurites game recently because of that.

FfH2 0.25 Changelog

Kwaichang

Chieftain

Sureshot

Goddess

TheJopa

Šumar

Turinturambar

Prince

Sureshot

Goddess

MagisterCultuum

Great Sage

Sureshot

Goddess

TheJopa

Šumar

BlazeRedSXT

Warlord

Kael

Deity

Ploeperpengel

academic precarity

Nevercme

Chieftain

MagisterCultuum

Great Sage

Basil II

Bulgar Slayer

Basil II

Bulgar Slayer

Cruel

King

JDexter

Prince

TravellingHat

Warlord

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