Isolated start
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Not really, especially if you picked sun god, with a growth follower belief. You'll hit happiness cap before you have access to astronomy/printing press. I've had to stagnate cities on purpose before to deal with this issue, to allow capital some more room to growth. This is especially true if you have a strong city with Petra/HG on lower difficulty where it was still possible to build without a nearby AI.
HughFran
Prince
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Well it's never been an issue for me on Immortal - I don't know about Deity because I rarely play at that level but isolation has been fine for me. I even had had a game where all my Pantheon's were growth related, I had internal trade routes, ToA and HG and still managed to keep my happiness on the plus. I guess it's however people prioritise their games I suppose
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Well it depends on many factors, you only have limited luxuries, you have to ally city states if they're around, and you have to beeline Colloseums
^^ Not true. See OP. The Continents Plus can give an isolate start pretty frequently.
lindsay40k
Emperor
Any chance of a 4000BC save? I want to put a capital on that Marble and try GLib, NC, Oracle, Petra.
Yeah, took a look at the OP's map, I can pretty much guarantee petra/HG/ToA in capital on anything below deity, plus a huge amount of wonders, in addition to 5-6 cities. Be capped on happiness due to insane cargo food potential, since there are only silver, marble and silk in sight.
Callonia
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That's true the happiness can be a problem in isolated/semi isolated starts. One of my responses to that problem is to establish port cities next to new luxuries asap. Pretty much all down to trying to gain sea faring and navigation as fast as possible. Anything else is of secondary concerns.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
We'd all definitely want the initial save 
IronfighterXXX
Work Hard - Play Hard
People who think isolated starts are easier or same as 'normal' starts especially on higher difficulties should take a look in recent GOTM: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=551597
It's Brazil deity GOTM with designed culture victory. You start with three different luxes including salts, mountain,river, hills, forest, etc, but ...isolated; anyone can see how easy it will be
It's Brazil deity GOTM with designed culture victory. You start with three different luxes including salts, mountain,river, hills, forest, etc, but ...isolated; anyone can see how easy it will be
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
No need to tell me about it, I gave up on that map 150 turns in, even though I would have obviously won since it's Brazil
LOL, I forgot that I even tried that map. I never did get back around to give it another attempt or two.
That map was my slowest CV deity victory ever. I would've bailed for something else long ago if it wasn't the required VC.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Thank you, I'll also make sure to get all the mods that come with it
lindsay40k
Emperor
Let's not forget the peripheral benefits: camp gold; security from horsemen sniping workers and galleys eating cargo ships; if you're Aztec or Songhai or Germany you're going to be barb hunting anyway; anticipation of CS quests; access to GG & XP farming side of Honor tree, which facilitate brutal conquests and luxury acquisition - whilst clearing the map of marginal AI cities and creating more barbarian hunting grounds
I played a highland games (the map with lots of mountains) and was completely surrounded by mountains. Met my first AI in the modern age. Won by spaceship but one of the AIs had conquored half the world (but couldn't get to me due to impenetrable mountain wall). Funny enough my religion had spread to 1/3 of the world long before I even met those civs.
Big chunks of the world were uninhabited because of the mountains.
I think this was Emperor. Had brutal problems with money and luxes. Not even a city state in my valley.
Big chunks of the world were uninhabited because of the mountains.
I think this was Emperor. Had brutal problems with money and luxes. Not even a city state in my valley.
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