Anthony Weiner Goes Ballistic At GOP

I sympahtize with the needs of these people, injured in participation in event covered under scope of federal goverment I can see the line between covering costs from the attack, but I am tired of people using their participation in these events via their official capacity (police, firefighters) as a pretext to demand lifetime care.

And you say this because soldiers who are injured during operations do not receive a lifetime of free or subsidised healthcare if necessary? I didn't know that.
 
9/11 is like the Powerball of disasters... if you're a first responder to a big disaster like that, you can really cash in, but if your numbers don't come up and you're just stuck rescuing some family from a house in Queens, you're on your own. No special handouts for 9/11 survivors.
 
This was prob a pretty smart move politically. The Dem base is pretty demoralized (which is the reason why so many house races aren't competitive). The rest of the country will forget about this in three days, but I promise this is being played in every DCCC office and shared in every activist's email.
 
Now wait a second. Whats this:

At the heart of the debate was a procedural maneuver made by Democrats to suspend the rules before consideration of the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act. The move allowed leadership to block potential GOP amendments to the measure (there was worry that Republicans would attach something overtly partisan in hopes that it could pass on the otherwise widely-popular measure). It also meant that the party needed a two-thirds majority vote.

To me, this sounds like the dems tried to screw the GOP over in regards to being able to add amendments, and it backfired on them.

So, the dems tried to play partisan politics and the GOP retaliated....and now this is all the GOPs fault?

Also, I need to ask: Were the rescue workers and survivors of the Oklahoma city bombing or first World Trade Center bombing going to be given lifetime medical care as well? If not, then why not?
 
And when it is the US government's business, people vote it down because heaven help anyone who tries to practice Christian charity. Funny - I recall a bit in the Bible where it warns of false prophets deceiving millions of people and putting their lives at risk. But those can't be modern, fundamentalist "Christian" preachers who promise hellfire and brimstone on anything that vaguely smacks of liberalism, welfare or charity.

What in the hell are you talking about? Now, granted, I haven't read the bible in quite some time. But I seem to recall that somewhere it says that everyone is supposed to a 10% tithe to the church for charitable purposes and to help the poor. Nowhere do I remember Jesus saying, "You don't have to give unless you make $40,000 a year, and then you pay 25%. If you earn more than $250,000 you have to pay 34% to the government for every dollar thereafter."

10% goes to God because God would like to see it voluntarily given.
20% goes to the wanna be God who demands it and will imprison you for not giving.

I think there's a disconnect here with any liberal who uses the "Jesus was a socialist" schtick.
 
Merkinball said:
But I seem to recall that somewhere it says that everyone is supposed to a 10% tithe to the church for charitable purposes and to help the poor.
Thats one of the 5 Pillars of Islam.
Nowhere do I remember Jesus saying, "You don't have to give unless you make $40,000 a year, and then you pay 25%. If you earn more than $250,000 you have to pay 34% to the government for every dollar thereafter."
Jesus also didn't say we all had a right to carry a machine gun and concealed handguns without a permit, but some Conservatives think he did. If they can interpret the Bible, so can we.

I think there's a disconnect here with any liberal who uses the "Jesus was a socialist" schtick.
You're right. Jesus said give it all away. Lets go full hog rather than just 10%.
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Acts 2 said:
42They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.
Acts 4 said:
32All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had. 33With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and much grace was upon them all. 34There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales 35and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.
 
Now wait a second. Whats this:



To me, this sounds like the dems tried to screw the GOP over in regards to being able to add amendments, and it backfired on them.

So, the dems tried to play partisan politics and the GOP retaliated....and now this is all the GOPs fault?

The measure was blocked because GOP House members were going to add amendments to repeal heath care legislation.
 
Thats one of the 5 Pillars of Islam. - Ajidica

Where do you think Islam got the idea from?

Jesus also didn't say we all had a right to carry a machine gun and concealed handguns without a permit, but some Conservatives think he did. If they can interpret the Bible, so can we. - Ajidica

What on earth are you talking about? Good gravy...

You passages on Acts say nothing about requirements to give everything away and share you possessions. It talks about how the apostles lived, and nothing about what they were required to do. When the Apostles who occupy Mordor on the Potomac begin giving away their riches instead of other peoples property, I may be a bit more compelled to follow them.

Merkinball, have you consider moving to Mogadishu? - Taillesskangaru

I'm a bit lost as to what the hell you're talking about. Please discuss this statements relevance at length.
 
The measure was blocked because GOP House members were going to add amendments to repeal heath care legislation.

Oh, so both parties were going to use the "9/11" / "First Responder" schtick to paint the other side as not supporting 9/11 or first responders. Glad to see Washington is functioning and spending trillions of our earned and earned tax payer dollars at their own personal whims.
 
Acts said:
32All the believers were one in heart and mind.
Merkinball, according to Acts to be a true Christian you have to do this.

Merkinball said:
What on earth are you talking about? Good gravy...
I'm pointing out that if conservatives can twist the Bible to suit their own ends, why can't everyone else?

It talks about how the apostles lived, and nothing about what they were required to do.
When it talks about the apostles and doing what God wanted, that sounds like they were required.
 
I'm pointing out that if conservatives can twist the Bible to suit their own ends, why can't everyone else? - Ajidica

You can't just pull a bunch of bogus crap out of your butt and pretend its the truth. The bible doesn't say anything about the second amendment or firearms, because, as luck may have it, firearms weren't invented yet, and the constitution didn't exist.
 
Then how come some nutjobs consider the right to own assault rifles their God given rights even though God makes no mention of that?
 
Because Jebus is different from Jesus
 
Those greedy 9/11 victims! Even Glenn Beck hates them:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf33g9ep4YU "You know, it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims' families"

What did the victims of the Oklahoma city bombing ever get?

The measure was blocked because GOP House members were going to add amendments to repeal heath care legislation.

So? When the republicans were in the majority the dems did this all the time.

Its called how our government works.

The Dems tried to be partisan about this and got the door shut on their foot, but its a result of their own action here.

@Ajidica: Stop saying what true christianity is about...you dont have a clue.
 
Not a clue what it's all about. But that was inspiring.

More people should fly off the handle that passionately in politics.
 
God didn't invent capitalism, condemn homosexuality or declare that the United States of America was His chosen nation either, but that doesn't stop certain people (even on CFC) from stating that he did. For the record, He didn't create the English language or commission the King James Bible - funnily enough, that last was James VI & I.

Jesus did say to render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. Taxation is most definitely Caesar's, in that respect.
 
Not a clue what it's all about. But that was inspiring.

More people should fly off the handle that passionately in politics.

I actually agree. He was certainly passionate. It would make for a more popular CSPAN lineup...maybe they could change the election process in the US to something like this: a panel of judges, and an audience, and each Congressman gives a speech, and then the people can text their vote to 59052 or whatever.

I still think what he was passionate about was political positioning rather than help for people though.
 
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