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Stayed up until 11:30 last night, I tried to stay up passed 12 AM to preview it, but I was too tired. Today, I was 10 mins late for work, because I wanted to check out the first few turns this morning. I started a game as Rome, on prince, (I like to play on king, but I made it easier for my first time with the new content.) In advanced setup, I choose to play with all of the new Civs. So far, I was able to find Venice south of my capital. I noticed the barbarians have a cool new avatar during turn waiting; it looks more... barbaric. I can't wait to get home and play, this is going to be longest day of work since the debut of Gods and Kings.

On a side note, did anyone notice that the map generation looks better, and more realistic, or is it just me?

The barbarian avatar changed with the most recent patch (pre-bnw). I like the new map generation too. Also, since the patch turns go by so much faster! I hated the modern era on because it just turned into a slog.

Anyway, first game morroco, prince, standard everything on continents. I was the first with a religion (founded and enhanced before anybody else thanks to desert folklore). I decided to go widish with 7 cities. I started on a continent with Monty, Elizabeth, Alex, and Indonesia. Never gone to war but I've had one of the largest militaries most of the game (monty worried me). I'm raking in around 150 gpt from trade routes, all sea in the industrial era. I am currenlty the leader in just about everything and am trying to go for a cultural, but if that doesn't work out I'll switch to tech.

I love the new cultural victory, as well as trade routes. The new cultural victory makes it viable for a wide empire. It's also really nice that they toned down the penalty per city for social policies. Though I'm a little disappointed about the new tech penalty. :-(
 
So many thoughts I feel like sharing but I don't even know where to begin. It's like a brand new game:

The landscape of moneymaking has changed 180 degrees. There is a big learning curve involved. No more depending on terrain and money buildings. All about the trade routes. But I had a tough time keeping my trade routes safe - I underestimated the relentlessness of barbarians - the horseman ruining my land routes and the ships ruining my sea routes. Barbarians are crazy. Don't be put off by lack of gold tiles on the coast - sea trade routes make up for it big time. Lighthouse offering production is a necessary addition and feels like that's what it always should have been

Piety is a very viable starting option. That's what I chose and I liked it.

Started next to Brazil. Pedro was really nice and I didn't have to worry about war at all

That all sounds great! Glad we have to think about what we are doing and pay attention once we do things.
 
PhilBowles, thanks for your writeup. You're right, Duel map is probably the worst one to play on but I look forward to seeing your play on a normal, standard map.
 
Got up this morning and had about 20 minutes before I had to go to work. So, I updated Steam, installed BNW and rolled a new game.

Standard, Continents, Normal size, Prince (Yeah, I suck at CIV :D ), Shoshone. I did turn off Time Limit victory, though. Hate losing by points at 2050. :p

Got very lucky with my start position. My settler was already standing on a marsh, right by the origin of a river. Put my capital right there, managed to get 1 Marble, 1 Wine and 1 Wheat inside my borders.

Sent my Pathfinder out exploring, found two ruins (I went Culture, then Population) and met Egypt. Found a couple city states, ran into a Babylonian unit, and then found a Barbarian camp to the southwest. And this is where the game surprised me. Normally after two or three rounds fighting barbarians, the unit will get enough XP to level up. The Pathfinder didn't, and I had to retreat to heal.

By this point, I had built a monument & a worker (went Trad instead of Lib), but I had to pull him back into the city because a barbarian unit came down from the north. Started building a second Pathfinder, and that's where I had to leave for work. This was turn 40.

Oh, and my adviser said I could build a caravansary, but I was kinda tied up building the Pathfinder at that point. Now I can't wait to get home and keep playing! :twitch:

One other thing I noticed is that no one has started a pantheon yet. Normally, I'd see somebody had started one by now. This might be the first Civ 5 game where I get first dibs on a religion!

Edit: Oh yeah, I've only got 200 gold. Taking that away from rivers really does put a crimp on starting!
 
In G&K you basically always had a second or third copy of one resource close by your capital, so you would have luxuries to trade. In this game I didn't have any second copies until I founded my third city, but instead had 1 each of Gems, Citrus, Truffles, Ivory, Marble, Incense. Anyone else seen anything like this or was this completely random?

Must be random. I've never been that lucky in any of my games. :)
 
Must be random. I've never been that lucky in any of my games. :)

In G&K I have, once, been lucky enough to get (I think) five different luxuries across two cities, one copy of each... and they ALL needed the Calendar tech to improve.

But generally luxuries tend to come in pairs or threes.
 
Bluegrassgeek: the caravansary is a must. +2 gold on each trade route. Go for it!:)
 
A warning to others who may be as stupid as me: that great work is a poem. Do NOT use the text to search for images with Google.

Unless you are into that kind of thing.

Naked lady looking in the mirror is not a painting by Goya?
 
Do you have a save you could attach showing the behavior? Would love to take a look. This is obviously not by design if it's occurring.

No, I don't have a savefile of that one besides the autosave files, which are already gone. Sorry.
But I am noticing this behavior quite consistently now. I've seen a lot more settlers captured by the barbs in GK, but haven't seen any in BNW. Do see a lot of workers being captured, though. And they sure as hell capture my settlers when I send them unescorted near their camp. I also noticed that in 100% of the cases when my units were around, they were the priority targets for every barb unit in that proximity, as in, they'd rather move in to create a flanking situation on my unit than capture AI civilian units that are within reach. Pretty weird.
 
Started a game where I wasn't on a coast. Ended up on a small continent, which meant I was extremely limited in trade routes. That means a loss. Don't make my mistake. If you are on a small landmass, you MUST be on a coast to generate trade routes and give yourself a chance. My capital was situated next to a CS and another civ. I was too focused on the new stuff to take him out. But I feel like I learned a necessary lesson.
 
Naked lady looking in the mirror is not a painting by Goya?

I would have to believe this correct since it was created by a Great Artist and when it was built it shows a picture of a painting of a naked lady looking in a mirror.
 
Naked lady looking in the mirror is not a painting by Goya?

It turns out that it is!

It's also a poem by an Australian poet. I can't tell if it's any good, since I can't read poems, so I assumed that was it, after my picture search returned the results that it did.
 
Built the Borobudur, got my 3 missionaries and...
Wait, what?


Something's not right... :confused:


EDIT: Also, this crashed the game. I was kind of hoping to see just how convincing this missionary was...
 
Really like the Shoshone by the way. The Great Expanse ability is great for early land-grabbing, and it nets you all the luxuries within reach of the city!
That and the Pathfinders' ability to choose your own reward... enable the Shoshone to create a solid foundation for themselves in the early game. Also, it robs you of sleep. Somehow. Kind of disappointed how the interface remains the same though. I hope CiVUP for BNW comes online soon!
 
Really like the Shoshone by the way. The Great Expanse ability is great for early land-grabbing, and it nets you all the luxuries within reach of the city!
That and the Pathfinders' ability to choose your own reward... enable the Shoshone to create a solid foundation for themselves in the early game. Also, it robs you of sleep. Somehow. Kind of disappointed how the interface remains the same though. I hope CiVUP for BNW comes online soon!

meh now that everybody says shoshone are op imma be a boss and play something stupid like Brazil or Assyria
 
the AIs are ultra passive (on Prince) and fail mega hard at improving their lands.

also a side note if you eliminated all the civs then you will be broke because trade caravans do not generate gold with your own cities

there need to be some serious balance fixes

I mean make it so trade caravans at least generate some gold with your own cities
 
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