Hello again
Clustering closely with Bosnians, Bulgarians, Serbs and Eastern Croats is hardly a proof for being genetically Slavs
They cluster with the Georgians too... Many different recent researches solved that.
I think you'll agree things are simple.
Thing is that genetics is not a stand alone science in the history field. You can't exclude Historians and Anthropologists from this, from their own field. In fact genetics are here to help them resolve and/or confirm their issues.
because all these southern Slavic groups have relatively little of actual Slavic genetic ancestry, and are mostly the result of assimilation of Ancient Balkan populations by Slavic invaders. On the other hand, Slovenes and Western Croats are much more "genetically North Slavic" (or at least less "genetically Ancient Balkan") than the rest of Southern Slavs. In genetic terms, Slovenes and Western Croats cluster more closely with Northern Slavs - especially with Western Slavs - than with Southern Slavs. Despite being geographically and linguistically Southern Slavic, genetically Slovenes and people of western Croatia are more closely related to Slovaks, Poles and Czechs than to Bulgarians, Serbs, Bosniaks, Macedonians or Montenegrins.
"Assimilation" is besides the point when one examines the migration events in a region.
All Slavs cluster to each other
more or less.
This is a proven fact and it by itself proves that;
1. all Slavs are coming from the same stock,
as history recorded it
1. the
"Southern Slavs" migrated to this area as history recorded it the 7th century AD.
Blogs are not being accepted by me.
I never quote from blogs, I do not accept the informations. Only first hand informations and links are being accepted.
South Slavs are definitely not North (West + East) Slavs - these are two distinct populations in terms of ancestry.
Two exceptions are Slovenes and Croats, who are genetically more similar to West Slavs than to Balkanians.
As I said above, it's a solved issue that all Slavs come from the same stock.
That's the issue when one examines migration events in an area.
both Vardar Slavs (Macedonians) and Bulgarians are genetically close to Ancient Balkanians.
This was never the case in the scientific community of geneticists, historians nor anthropologists.
There are many different recent DNA researches nowadays that prove;
1. The greeks cluster with the southern Italians with deviation of 0.000 (=
IDENTICAL or as the Italians say
"una faccia una razzia"), as result of the colonization of southern Italy by the Greeks in
antiquity, which proves
beyond any doubt that modern greeks are direct descendants of their ancient ancestors,
2. The Slavs (from former Yugoslavia and Bulgaria) do not cluster with the Greeks nor with the Italians. This issue is proved by that many researches today that it is considred
solved.
3. The Slavs don't belong nor relate in any way (culturally, alphabetically, the names persons and cities, the tranditions or any other way) to any of the ancient balkan tribes for the simple reason that they migrated in the Balkans the 7th century AD.
Assimilation IS BESIDES the point when ones examines migration events in an area.
4. There are no genes of the ancient balkan tribes to prove who relates to them. So far the only cofirmations we have comes from combining researches and scientific fields (including genetics - recently). This way what why know for sure today is what I wrote above on 1. 2. & 3.
These are nowadays undeniable facts.
Yet (and I say this as a notice and not to offent you in any way) this comes as no surprise from you, as you seem to reproduce the thesis and outrageous lies of the propagandists of the self-declared
"Република Македонија / Republika Macedonjia".
Thesis and lies that perhaps for the first time (***)
in recorded history FORCED the scientific society ans a
vast amount of historians, philosophers, anthropologists, geneticists and all kinds of intelectuals, even Universities, Museums and Archaeological Institutions, to
VOLUNTARILY make outraged comments (many of them on camera), such as;
Robin Lane Fox, Prof. Dr., Oxford University
"...Macedonia was a Greek speaking kingdom in northern Greece, populated by people using Greek names and worshiping Greek gods._
Those who live in Skopje and say that is Macedonia and Alexander's homeland, are as ignorant and outrageous as if someone was to say that Oxford University was really in Belarus, and Oxford was Minsk..."
Stephen G. Miller, Prof., Dr., Berkeley University
Who is refering to the self-declared
"Republika Macedonija" which
fabricated maps attempting to present PAEONIA (the region this country is settled) as ONE united region with Macedonia-Greece (Alexander's homeland), and to the banknotes this country circulated with the Greek city of Thessalonike on them];
"... I wonder what we would conclude if a certain large island off the southeast coast of the United States started to call itself Florida, and emblazoned its currency with images of Disney World and distributed maps showing the Greater Florida..."
René Guerdan, French Historian
"...The Macedonians are and have always been Greeks, and the creation of a socialist "Republic of Macedonia" with Skopje as its capital is only a sad farce..."
(***) Well perhaps not for the first time if one consider what the Nazi Germany propagandists claimed back then...
A fish and a horse can't breed and can't produce fertile offspring, whereas a Greek and a Black African can
Please lets not play with words...
You know very well what I meant to say.
The humans since the first man stood up on his feet, faced changes that today gave us the races (and I don't say that the racist way, but genetically).
An Islander and an Ethiopian both can do the exact things, both have the same skills spiritually and physically, but genetically have differences that envolved through time and space.
I'll repeat to avoid
any misunderstandings that I don't say this the racist way, but genetically.
