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what was broken was the man , not his faith .

tolkien would have been so ready to deny , so eager to reject . But he felt it wouldn't be right : He owed his wife life . What would happen to the love of his life when he said "No. And you can stuff it..." ? His mother had provided him a template of what to expect with her own suffering . Nothing could justify the repeat of all that . Bullying in England is reported to be an exalted form of art ; anybody who survives the schoolyard almost intact can be trusted to have iron nerves and well grounded principles that to keep for life and an instant readiness to fight to keep them for life . But then when the opposition gets to be a whole freaking intelligentsia or at least a substantial proportion of England's future opinion leaders one also has to learn to bite the bullet .

yes Sir , Tolkien was a Papist . He would bide his time . To throw the spanner to the works , to delay from inside . He thought quick and played the game . The messenger , a fellow from Oxford or something , but a few years senior as far as ı understand it , failed to see it in the wrecked shell of a man in front of him ; not everybody could be blessed with the stiff upper lip and to cap it Tolkien had seen "almost" no combat at all ... The fellow would be talking on how the Ancients would have no clue about the stresses and the needs of the modern life and Tolkien would be biting his lips ... It was 1917 and there was a Great War going on ...

it's of course somewhat related to Germany , this thing that initially got Tolkien into writing a whole new world and took a sliver of that here and there to be published as the Hobbit and the LotR ; to eventually win a whole literary fame that will take far too much abuse not to last .

what follows could be expected to raise a couple of eyebrows of any sane person with any kind of interest in history : Can almost hear the mutterings of "Denial of Agency" ... Well , Germany had coal and iron and they would set out to build the Ironworks , a whole lot of Ironworks ... Before Industrial Revolution the size of a country was quite relevant to its power , somewhat more than it's now . Factory production added a new dimension into the balance , those who didn't have the land could still have more guns and cannons to get the land from those who had it but lacked the factories . ı have seen it mentioned that France was a laggard in the whole of the Industrial Age , specifically when compared to the Great Britain and soon-to-follow US because a comparative absense of coal and iron deposits . Even more imposing must be the case of China , a titan of the world -before the Industrial Revolution- with finished iron production that simply dwarfed any competitor . Yet doomed to fail , simply because the Yellow River was so troublesome to travel on the sections that lied between the coal and the iron deposits . As England rose with vastly increased production followed closely by the Europeans who could , China quickly found itself surprassed . In the battles of the Opium War the Chinese would find their cannons to be useless in shore to ship duels not because they were morons that remained wed to a nostalgic fixation with their past but there was no way for them to finance the development of new armaments , let alone change the entire inventory of weapons in every decade or so . 1840s was a European victory , 1810s the entire continent would have failed to make a dent in the Chinese ... True or false ?

true or false , doesn't make much difference to the case at hand ... Germany had coal and iron , even more abundantly compared to Britain proper . Germany would become a major player . Big enough to be a threat to a country that took pride in that a quarter of any world map would be painted in the crimson that showed the British possessions . Back then war was as natural as the rain that rained and the sun that shined . There would be a war . London watched Germany thrashing France , knowing well Berlin would become the capital of a competitor that would be even more menacing than the archenemy of centuries , France . Of course any powerful Germany would find itself on a collusion course with Russia , which was proving to be a disturbing prospect for Britannia ruling the waves to cowe the world . Almost explains why the new German "Literature" had so ardent patrons from Britain ...


unfortunately nobody says "LOL what?" to me these days ... But then we in Turkey are living through another application of the same where the United States sold it to our newly elites that they would do so well , even rule the world with a fake anti-Semitism . When one gets into following conspiracies there is no end to the evilness and the power of those who "rule" the US behind the scenes ; a claim both their opponents and themselves foster relentlessly . It's with this world for such a long time , and remember ı am a guy who reads just one book in a given field and feels so ready to tackle the issues -so good for me that ı surely can't be playing this for keeps . Say , all the Muslims would be called Saracens before the Crusades or possibly at the time the Church -as in a West European setting- became aware of Islam . Neverminding no Muslim would be like using the term , the Europeans knew ... The Muslims were so big liars that they chose to hide their roots from Ishmail , son of Hagar who was a slave of Sarah :

The application of the blanket term “Saracen,” however, is a product of Western imagination. The Ishmaelites, Latin authors believed, desperately wished to conceal their base heritage. They wanted to pretend that they were not the illegitimate children of a slave. Hence, they called themselves the “Saracens,” the descendants of Sarah, rather than, more properly, the “Hagarenes.” One twelfth-century writer cautioned, “You should know and you ought never to doubt that these people, who take pride in their name, are not and never should be called Saracens. They are ‘Agarenes,’ and rightly named such.” Despite this warning, European writers by and large rejected “Agarene.” “Saracen” was simply too useful—by itself evidence of that faith’s base ancestry (Muslims were born of a slave), its illegitimacy (they were bastards), and its mendaciousness (they used their name to lie about it).

then some weird stuff on how Christianity was "some conspiracy" that usurped the Greco-Roman character of the biggest empire that the world knew at the time . The anti-Semitism is based on the success of Christianity itself , which must be the "single" thing taught to the nobles and the intelligentsia of the day , even if that "day" could be really measured by the millennia the Church ruled the West uncontested . Not much surprise in that a popular prophecy that boiled the blood of the first Crusaders was :

...the “King of the Greeks and Romans” will arise to conquer all of the kingdoms of the Christians, before taking his fight to the pagans. He will devastate their cities “and destroy the idols in their temples and call all the pagans to baptism, and in all their temples the cross of Jesus Christ will be raised. Whoever does not adore the cross will be punished with the sword, and after 120 years all the Jews will convert to the Lord, and his sepulcher will be made glorious.”

saracens are so easy , afterall . Consider the confusion of the poor feodal torn between the opposites of his training , the whole education he receives ... Bound to admire the glory of the Roman Empire for the laws that govern his life are from that glorious past , one look at the Roman ruins will raise doubts about his dwellings of straw huts and similar worthless structures . Even the paved road he walks on ... Not to mention that his King must claim descent from the said Romans one way or the other . This is Conspiracy , mon ami , don't look for sanity in it ... And then the Jews , who were utterly destroyed and dispersed by the glorious Romans and came back in the teachings of some poor fisherman or something whom the Jews took great care to kill ... If not alert , the Jews could come back . This being a tradition , the base the West was built on there is nothing exactly mysterious in the "new" that shook Germany while Bismarck was doing his best in order not to antagonize London .

a hate of industrialization and a desire for the countryside with a sprinkling of anti-Semitism ... Just par the course , if you will . For delaying factories and the like if possible . Chiefly through claims that the industrialists were straight Jews or Jews claiming to be Christians . With a stress on farming so that the farm owners , the landed gentry could be drafted in to oppose the factory builders with their wealth and existing power structures . As in Church and military hiearchy . So that the ways of the Old could be protected from the "dishonourable" ways of the new , the mockery and slurs from the industrialists . To cover it all a bit of new fangled German Nationalism ; this must not be unmasked as some British trick . Soon to be reinforced by Social Darwinists of all countries as a test environment , held tight under the unpriable vice of Prussian militarism ... With a staggeringly new thing , hostility to glorious Rome ... Blame the Darwinists for that .
 
for the "New Age" started elsewhere . Even the term was invented by a psychic , Madame Blavatsky , apparently in New York after 1873 or so . She had toured the world , for being born rich she had nothing else to do . Learning all kinds of terminologies to "sell" to those who wanted to "buy" , transforming seances with the dead -which is reliably reported to be a prime occupation of the Victorians- into "a some sort of quasi-religion" which she called Theosophy . She must be one of those who took the leading scientific theories of the day to make it more suitable for the Social Darwinists . Once Charles Darwin had put forward that there was something called evolution , it would only be natural to look for a common branch that binded all mankind . With a twist . Just like the Catholic and Protestant Europeans would see themselves higher than anybody else on the planet during the Age of Colonization the rich Whites who felt like running the world at the end of the 19th Century could not bring themselves to be evolved from a common root with the non-whites . No , there was a master race , the example all men descended from , the muster . The least sullied were the Aryans , the Whites and especially the rich Whites , all the rest were degenarations from the ideal . Sure enough the muster race soon became the race who should be masters to rule over the abominations , the rest of the human race , non-white and poor . The word Arya seems to mean "Noble" in some archaic Indian language , spoken by people who tend to be Brown and generally picked on by the Aryans ...

this was the science of the 19th Century . Naturally checked the Wikipedia page for Guido Karl Anton List , who gave nobility to his own on his own to become Guido von List and it's so benign . Definitely no clear mention that his movement somehow became the Nazi Party ... This guy grew a like for the pagan past of the Germans . To have resources for a discussion of those mighty pagans unfortunately he had no recourse but to refer to the Romans , namely a book by Tacitus in 98 AD ...

it might be remembered ı am just a parrot ; ı even parrot myself time after time . To do it once again ... With a reference to the days when ı was a museum guide , translating the work of a couple of some 19th Century voyagers -namely their references to the city ı live . Readily struck by the obvious hostility of the travellers against Turks . Wrote an explanation of sorts , happens to be the beginning of my this extremely funny "academic" stuff , too . According to this theory of mine -no doubt somewhat polished over the years- Church succeeded because it was built on the state institutions of the Roman Empire and the two were inseperable . As the Romans fell and the Church survived , the clergy saw it fit to keep the glorification of the links . First the Reformation , then the Enlightment were terrible setbacks for the Church , but the reputation of Rome was such that even the worst enemies of the Church would have to find alternatives to Rome , cultures that might be capable enough to match the Roman splendour . The best they could do was the Greeks , whom Romans readily accepted as tutors . And actually wrote of as such .

von List then becomes kinda the first challenger to "the Roman hold on things" . Definitely the first name ı can use with my obviously limited reach . His pagans are defined by opposition to Rome , right ? Circa 1890 , about the time Bismarck is about to be replaced as the pilot , the "guide-captain" of the ship as a famous Punch cartoon depicted the German State . Can't say anything about Wagner's Rings , whether they were just a celebration of all things Pagan or an uprising of sorts against the Roman way of doing things , which was the essence of the mentality of statesmen and their ilk had to have . Even if that was bound to be lip-service only ; for ı myself have already been noted for claiming Franz Josef was the last of the "Romans" . Irregardless of whatever that might have implied at the end of the 19th Century .


not to be particularly relevant in this juncture , List would just scribble a load of crap about the glory of the Armanen , a name he derived from Tacitus' book . A group of Pagan priests leading the Germans to stupendous feats of arms against the might of Romans , these guys were so super -in the imagination of List- that he gave up being a Catholic . He would go on the claim he had visions from his gods to discover the Armanen Futhark , an alphabet of runes he developed from Younger Futhark , a simplified version of the Elder one . Apparently the Elder was developed in the 1st century and limited to elites ; the Younger was intented to be taught to commoners as the Vikings went out to conquer the world they knew in the 8th Century . Distances would be vast , word of the elite to be carried by letters ; necessary to increase the literacy rate ? And List's method was so simple . He took two runes from the Anglosaxon version of the runic alphabet and added them to the Younger -that was necessary for some magical trick he would be performing on the gullible for his daily bread . His holy writing needed to have 18 letters , not 17 or 19 . He wasn't even much into the operations of the cult that grew around him ; he would be surprised to hear back in the days of Bismarck in those rare moments der Grosse wouldn't be muttering curses about the Socialists , the great Chancellor would look at the files of a couple of people like List and try to gather what was the doom they implied . Charlatans were always around , weren't they ?
 
a far "better" character would be Adolf Jozef Lanz . A monk who gave up the Habit -if this is the phrase to be used . He would have a feet in both camps . This one source ı use for the German New Age reports him writing a chapter to a serious Bible study , meanwhile preparing material for his "blockbuster" . Apparently it wasn't good enough for this dude to have inferior races understand that they were to be inferior . He came up with a whole new theory of how they came to be . Aryans were naturally the descendant of gods ; the rest were simply animals who had improper "action" with gods :

If this ... seems a long stretch from his work on Zur Theologie der Gotischen Bibel, it should be pointed out that nearly every line in the weird work contains a biblical reference, primarily to the Old Testament. Nearly every other line contains a reference to sex -generally violent or illicit sex. Indeed the defrocked Cistercian (who was bounced from the monastery for dabbling in "carnal love") spent an inordinate amount of time in ... discussing the sexual practices of apes, humans, and subhumans -as well as sea monsters and "... hobgoblins" -in lurid detail.

the hobgoblin reference got somewhat truncated as ı felt ı couldn't edit the author's writing with the letter deletion ı tend to use . Let it suffice to say that Lanz probably spent too much time on studying Sodom and Gomorra ...

and of course when one investigates the later exploits of Adolf Jozef Lanz , the successful magazine "Ostara" will be noticed . And sure enough a certain subscriber , another Adolf , the Adolf ... Hitler's sexual escapades as the Fuehrer of the Germans seems spectacularly odd with his solemnly reported straightness during the War ; parroting myself for the umpteenth time he had no interest in the Belgian boys all those Bavarians were chasing when not in the trenches . Yet such an explosion of "conquests" as soon as he got the leadership of the Nazi Party . Free sex happens to be a terribly effective recruitment tool ; the stuff about hobgoblins would be just the proof that those people knew no limits and they were sure to have women , just women available for the pleasure of any German gentleman with a proper upbringing . Then of course , there is no free lunch ; ı certainly don't know anything about the photography of 1910s but am so sure no German now recalcitrant about his involvement with the loonies could claim it was a photoshop with him and the women and the dogs and the goat and whatever and ever . Such a system to make sure "members" stay members tends to have such a latent capacity for exploitation by leadership . Hah , try to remark this passage to Lady Vader for comments to ask whether this is so universal and see whether she is still strong enough to swing a crowbar ...

returning to case at hand , it's yet another quirk of the times that among all the "proper" Nazis at the time only Heydrich could get laid "naturally" . Say , his boss , Himmler seems to be "smitten" by a woman 7 years his senior , only to have a child and the family safely tucked away from Berlin . And yes , ı know he had twins from a mistress ... Kinder , Kirche , Kuche for the wife , everything else for the husband . "Marriage in its existing form is the Catholic Church's satanic achievement." is a statement by Himmler , to justify Polygamy . Not because he is a chauvenist male pig , but rather because that the kind of programme they have been entrusted to run means lots of dead men ; one must do his duty to der Vaterland , even if he tends to prefer men ...

heinrich Himmler might still be a boy when Tolkien got drafted into it and his "glorious" conduct might be still in the shrouded future , but it was clear where "it" would lead . And ı have no doubts that Tolkien would have waited until 21 and beyond for dedicating a life , until Death did them apart . Chivalry and stuff are not necessarily empty words and even this half-baked Muslim agrees . It's not even a distinction between the bad German and the good English :I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. as the Wikipedia page on Tolkien announces .
 
and then right under that , the very statement of it :

Yet I suppose I know better than most what is the truth about this 'Nordic' nonsense.

indeed . For he was meant to write the greatest achievement of it ...

ah the Nordics ... The blue eyed , blond , tall and beautiful , the most beautiful embodiment of the human race , the men as men are supposed to be . According to German State organs of all kinds of the 1930s and readily supported elsewhere . To declare Nazism was a product of Versailles is so safe and quite the established history . To declare it is peculiarly German is also common , though the Germans must be really hating that it is so normal for them to be villainified with wild abandon . The r16 thing must be then a watered down Nazism would still win some elections by the 1930s even if there had been no WW1 and Kaiser had still been there . It was the "natural" course of history , with intensive care taken during its inception and the entire structure that would grow around it . Germany was bound to be somewhat racist and they would still be globally wellcomed for it . ı have just received an electronic book on Moltke , the Commander in Chief or whatever of the Germany in 1914 and it turns out he was also a "loony" ; talking to the dead in seances ... Yet quite ready to give up this very(?) personal belief when ordered by the Kaiser that he was supposed to look serious in the eyes of the world .

it was the spirit of the time . ı think it must have been noticed in CFC that ı share some substantial percentage of feelings against the Anglosaxons , even if that's something only a Frenchman can do full justice . Yet ı have my favourite British generals ... Take Dowding for example ; yet another loony talking to the dead , his squadron mates who fell over Somme . Any aviation enthusiast worth his salt will tell you that the V-12 engine that powered some of the most iconic WW2 planes was not named after Merlin the Magician ... Rather it was company policy to name their products after birds of prey ; it's Merlin , the Falco columbarius aesalon . Don't argue with them . It's a very convulated story .

you would have to delve into how Hawker's decision in 1936 to start the production of Hurricane without a contract would never happened without Dowding covering them . Since the agreement for the Western approval for the legal acceptance of the Luftwaffe was that Nazis would do their thing without interence from the Democracies , because Luftwaffe would have lots of bombers that would lay waste to entire cities ; and that would be the very canard the politicos would use to idly watch Germans and Russians finishing what they started in the Great War . All the eyes in the enthuasist heads would roll in unison , some might even guffaw , if you say Dowding shut everybody up in half an hour , mentioning Holy Grail in the way . Let them aviation enthuasists know better than trying to give them the truth that Dowding was happy with his guide and shepherd . Happy enough to name that engine after him , that 27 liter / 1650 cubic inch wonder from Rolls Royce .

if you think this is fantastic enough to be not be the reality , consider the even stranger thing . That Heinrich Himmler claimed to be the reincarnation of the first German king Heinrich I , and Hitler did nothing about that . Leads one to wonder which supremo Adolf was in his previous life ... You know the Nazis bought a castle somewhere in Scotland or some rural place to turn into a Camelot . Sure enough they were in the original one , too . Naturally they would allow the top billing , the seat of Arthur , to some dude from Britain and Tolkien would hate every single second of the one or two trips to the site , to be in the august presence of such mighty people , to explain what he was doin' at the moment ...

and a brief detour about this anti-Roman thing . Am kinda confused at the recent Turkish stuff . Had long presumed last year's continious references to the Romans and Consuls and how they had 20th Century equivalents in the evil Generals of the Turkish Army , those uncouth anti-democratic bandits and thugs who all deserved jail seem to have some other stuff . Apart from a feeling of being kinda insulted at the outrage from Syria , where the Christians talked of Rome/Byzantium instead of total acceptance of the Ottoman norms of the 1500s , which definitely would make them walk while the first class citizens of the new Syria , under the enlightened wisdom and guidance of the New Turkey , would ride horses ...

oh yeah , it seems the New Turkey now loves Rome ... First a former advisor to the PM , now dean of an university , the guy who shook hands in America in agreement for the establishment of the fake anti-Semitizm , drawing a wide canvas on how benevolent Rome was to the world . Later seconded in a second programme where the expert who shames all experts holds court . This second debate show takes the form of a dialogue , the host asks and the expert who shames all experts answers . On and on . But then the expert who shames all experts has said so much on the Consuls ; he can't dare in the age of the Internet with unlimited storage capacity , so it fell to the host . Expect some wag to come up shortly with something like tired of licking American shoes , now kissing Roman sandals .
 
a couple of words on the "agency" might be required here .

in the first place it might be real awkward to discover that Nazism grew out of Environmentalism , the care for nature ; with affection for that bird on that tree on the side of that creek suddenly mutating into filling rooms full of people with insecticide . Yet this care of nature is still a real concern , a must for our continued existence as a species , naturally required for life , essentially essential . The Science might have been all wrong , even faked and the planet might not be going to boil with increased temperatures , a new Ice Age might be on us instead of the dreaded Global Warming , etc. etc... Maybe it's related to the thing that ı am not getting any younger ; almost 10 000 old Europeans died out of mere heat in a recent particularly hot summer .

nor ı can be induced to ignore the basic facts by lampooning it all by commentary on blissful tree hugging . Thread-wise there is indeed a possibility of too much industrialization . And not merely talking about poison in the air , waste on the ground and mind blowing profits to be stashed in bank accounts , preferably overseas . Additionally there is the cost , the financial cost of too much ; the expense for the too much factories to be and the expense of keeping them be ...

odd words from a guy who almost always plays as Isengard and never against Isengard ? Well , nature always has a way of asserting itself . Making money , while good and worthwhile and absolutely necessary is not , can not be the single goal in life to live for . And more pertinently to make others to live for .

this year's troubles over a couple of trees show that natural preservation can be spectacularly effective in influencing the course of politics . Before it all happened a certain debasement of the nature stuff was evident in the newly elites . This is also natural ; he who holds the Goverment decides which aspect of nature is worth keeping and where the public interests require sacrifice of a few things ; had the Opposition been the Goverment they too would have sacrificed whole forests and plains and rivers . The thing with the newlies though they were sooo ready to put names into it : It was Germany itself that paid all the environmental groups in the country , because they are jealous of our wealth . Germany pays villagers to demonstrate against gold mines ; because if we mine gold we will be rich . As such all reminders about the environmental risks were to be refused and forgotten . And remembered when they set out to write your name down as a German asset .

strangely enough they never note it down -since nobody notes it down , when something happens and nature asserts itself . A few years back all the newspapers were full with the risks of using Cyanide or some other dangerous poisonous thing in gold mining to no avail in relation to a certain site . The authorities said it was all hyperbole and even the open air storage of the stuff in dams made of soil was all safe , because they naturally know what they are doing and anyhow there was the extra security of a second dam . Sure enough , there were heavy rains and the dam burst with flooding . God's Grace the second dam held and it certainly might have not . Then the river would have carried it all to the Black Sea . Only because the gold miners' profits would have been less if some other method was used . Just like the Japanese ignored maintenance at Fukushima that might saved the reactors . Even just like Gorbachev ordered a relaxation in Russian standarts and Chernobyl went up as a result , since they were to cut corners to get a bit more for civilian consumption . There are things one should be a stickler and retentive like hell .

people do not pay attention , looking for guilty , real or imagined , is easier . ı think ı learned it from the X-Files of Mulder and Scully that some Japanese came and blew up Chernobyl . Am a parrot allright ; making money , while good ... maybe is not worth digging a channel across Thrace , supposedly to save Istanbul from a possible tanker accident in the Bosphorus . As it's extremely well known it's a construction project first , later a development scheme to sell houses alongside second , and it will be visible from space unlike the Eygptian Pyramids or something third . No problem if the entire marine life in Marmara dies with interraction with the Black Sea environment , while the currents in the Bosphorus currently keep a lid , right ? The builders will be rich enough to buy a couple of estates in Dubai afterall . All safely away from the scene when some tanker explodes in the channel to burn all the houses along the channel ...

keeping an eye on environment is not a bad thing . Even for an half baked Muslim like me in cases where it kinda helps kinda pagan associations . Like quite a few of those micro stations for hydraulic power generation have been shown to be coincidentally on the locations where certain "versions" of the Alevi belief require people to be present for certain types of ceremonies . Sunni Hanefi myself ; those people would be more likely to give it up instead of seeing those places under meters of water ... Yeah, many of the projects have been given up ; since America tells them to be careful and less of this in-the-face attitude . Hasn't exactly circulated down to the Police ; they have counted a total of 3 600 000 active demonstators in thousands of demonstrations . With repeats over nearly a month this possibly translates into a maybe 100 000 people . Police says 78% of them are Alevis ; possibly this makes it justifiable to burn tents and gas women in red and hit people in the face with tear gas canisters . There is a gulf between "Necessary for common good." and "They all deserve it." ; check it and you might see it's more like an abyss .
 
when one oppresses people , one's fear of people increases exponentially . Leads to extreme measures like those Social Darwinists of the 19th Century , who came to invent a whole new scheme of beliefs ...

at first sight their alarm - as far as those mighty captains of the industry might be alarmed- does not make sense . People have been under other peoples' yoke ever since there have been people . People have moved millions of tons of stones to build pyramids so that a single guy could be assured of having his trinkets with him when he woke up to rule the other world . People have worked in the fields under the whip , with their hides worth less than their master's horse or dog or shoes . There have been uprisings to be sure , but they were hardly worth any serious thinking . The task was easy , replacing the "inventory" . Get a new batch of slaves and you were set to go .

the problem with the machines was that they needed expertise for optimum performance . And aristocrats were not particularly enamoured to pay enough attention long enough to get that expertise . And using the whip was not the exact solution either , working machinery offered thousands of ways of getting even for the over burdened worker resentful of the attitude . The factory floor required diligence ; kick people and they would play with your steam plant in a such way that it would not only burst , but burst right when you were inspecting it . The Industrial Revolution quickly proved that an intermediate level of authority was required . Just like the artizans of the past who were worth more alive than dead , the factory foremen would drive their charges to almost extinction by the end of the shift and make the whole mechanism to tick day after day without missing a beat . The difference was in the age , the era . Those foremen learned they could . And the communications of the day , so useful for ruling ever bigger empires , also made it simpler to propagate dissent once it started somewhere , somehow .

as such the British themselves were after a new kind of man that could work the machines -with loyalty to the British way of life and all . The scheme to wreck Germany already had a meeker equivalent in the leading Industrial power of the world . Aiming to get patriotism onto the factory floor , with justification of the superiority of London and the class structure that made that possible and even inevitable . No point in opposing the nature lovers and anybody like-minded if they were to provide a relief , a valve to vent steam in order to prevent an overpressure in the system . Providing an hope for the foreman , the artizan with the screwdriver , the guy without whom the entire factory stops down , that someday people who counted , the aristocrats and the rich who could actually afford a stroll in the park everyday might be more tolerant . Tolerant enough to notice the hell on earth that were the factories . So that one day they could apply appropriate pressure on the owners to ease the burden . So that the foremen with a little humanity inside could live with the fact that they were selling their souls for taking bread to home ; and one day that might someday be no longer necessary . Conscience is a terrible risk . It has to be wooed time to time , even with establishing mechanisms that hurt the bank accounts . Conscience was allowed ; as long as the mechanism ticked day after day without missing a beat .

and naturally not all of those environmentalists of the day can be lumped into the fold of some conspiracy . Even in England there must be a possibility of workers in the field seeing the sun in the sky . ı understand this is something that would be really rare for initial factory workers . The horrors of industry were not a made up story ... People are perfectly capable of being people without decent feelings ordered into them according to the whims of whomever is in charge .
 
meanwhile the German industrialists didn't exactly intend to resist the British ploy . Instead , the monopolistic character of the game offered much enticement for it to succeed . If competition was to be stifled , it would be much easier for any German business owner to be the biggest in Germany . This was the thing that got Bismarck to decline to fight for it ; considering Willy was already driving him nuts . He certainly couldn't believe that German industrialists could tame their greed any better than a wolf could give up preying on the lamb . The burgeoning development of German industry was a sure thing .


and of course the very popular bete noire Wilhelm II was not an entirely stupid jerk that drove the whole world into a devastating war merely because he was jealous of his uncle and cousin who were Kings of England and stuff . He really was but it wasn't his fault entirely . Couldn't be . With the potential of Germany so evident . Germans were the primary threat , the enemy in the Roman game where one was supposed to work on the principle that any country which was the strongest in given area was to be the enemy to be surrounded and attrited in wealth and blood if practicable . Germans made that certain with their defeat of France and of course winning in 1870-71 was still better than losing . And one can't even blame even the Anglosaxons for messing with the world to regularly start orgies of blood . This was how the world was ; if London didn't others would ...

wilhelm could readily see his relatives were pushing his buttons . He might have failed to see it wasn't merely personal dislikes , but his control on the German state ; PR was still important in those almost Stone Age like ages before TV . Jesus Christ would have failed to get favourable press in any capital of the 19th Century and not just London , if he and the 12 Disciples were outnumbering the European military presence in some Kudüs street . Wilhelm made it easier . Germany was the primary power in Europe , France needed Russia as an ally , Germany tried to work around that by scaring either France or Russia . Making it inevitable that the Alliance would be stronger . Wilhelm's love of all things British was not merely he just loved his Grandmother the Queen or he envied the British splendour , that greatness which only the British could attain because his left arm was shorter than his left . He did need British as an ally because the French would keep the Russians as an ally . And Russians would keep the French because their primary European enemy , the Austrians had no recourse other than being a satellite of Germany , the primary power in Europe .

war was in the air and Germany was constantly denied an understanding by England . Initially it was explained by the Splendid Isolation . Yet even the British could see their days were "numbered" by the spectre of America which had all but consumed the "West" . And America had a particularly rich tradition of playing havoc with British maritime connections . Expansion was the norm for states ; America would soon try to expand and the world was not expanding at all . What were the options in that ?

an alliance with Germany : Useful to wreck France ? But the point was France was an overseas Colonial Empire just like Great Britain was . France would feel a kinship with England in case America saw it as a God given right to covet European colonies ; in the sense they would take over Spanish possessions . Useful to wreck Russia ? London had no need to give anything to Berlin , in return for something Berlin would just love to do in anycase .

an alliance with Russia : Something better was available ...

an alliance with France : Even more profitable if Paris held Moscow on a tight-rope , with depictions of impending doom with German hordes marching on and on . So British giving nothing to Russians to stop their expansion into India or any other British area of interest .

an alliance with America itself : Well . Why not in the sense America had always shown a great interest in avoiding London's wrath . Yet it was almost a bird at hand ; why not using a "non-existent" thing to lure Paris in ?

france took a long time to see the wisdom , Fochoda and all . Finally , the first thing Paris and London agreed was of course our scalp . Not just because we were Turks , alien abominations unworthy of existing even as slaves and stuff in the world or even in history ... We were also the thing that might have kept Germany afloat .

wilhelm offered the mighty German industry to Britain . What gets reported as the perfect German blunder in trying to make a fleet to scare Britain could have provided useful additions to the Royal Navy fighting off Americans on Course de Guerre ... He was a normal European of the day , he would fall off his horse laughing ... At any suggestion that Istanbul might have been worth keeping as a Turkish city .
 
this is still a Tolkien discussion ; you will have to make do with the horrible image of Orcish boots on sacred Minas Tirith ... An image corny to the point of delusional ; a caricature . Yet almost the truth ; after Kudüs fell in 1917 , the bells were ringing in Berlin and Vienna to honour the Christian victory . ı have no doubts they knew German speaking Christians had been killed by English speaking Christians to make that happen . The bells would be similarly ringing had Minas Tirith aka Istanbul had been taken by Anglo-French in combat . Legalities and technicalities ; apparently invasions after ceasefires are easier to kick out with diplomatic trickery .


can hardly blame people if it is in their context , entire culture build up . Those capable enough to work their way around that were excruatingly rare . And almost never because they liked us or something . One far before us and mind you ı am not one of "us" in any case , was Frederick , the dude in Civ 1 . Got the worst of Coalition warfare with alliance to an "unsympathetic" England , survived only by flukes time after time . Facing the Russian colossus , the steamroller even if steam wasn't much of a thing in his time , he offered a "permanent" Alliance to the Ottomans ; we were quite bulky back then . Even after when he was kinda put off after the Porte asked for the best 3 of his astrologers in 1761 or so . Instead of engineers and university proffessors and none of overly talkative philosophers ; Frederick astutely kept somewhat quiet . It wasn't entirely Eastern foolishness , considering what his successors' generals would be up to ... The proposal would remain as a quaint oddity as Napoleon crushed Fredrick's legacy with contemptous ease only to face the rapid recovery of Prussia . Set on a road to swamp France in a victory of worlwide renown . Nothing could ever stand in the way of German arms .

history is supposed to be studied to get guidance for today and the future . Germans who studied history knew nothing was permanent and doom might be upon them soon . One of them was von der Goltz ; he wasn't exactly popular with his colleagues to point out what was out there , only for those who would want to see . Germany would become the target of a Coalition of powers that were already impressive on their own and the way to beat that , the defeat in detail , could not work considering the strategic depth of Russia and the self assurance of the French . The Armee Grande of Napoleon was not a century old at the time , with its endless pursuit of the Russians and the bloody retreat and Napoleon had still been able to re-muster a sizeable army that required the whole of Europe joining forces to defeat the French . Twice in two years ...

had Panzers existed back then von der Goltz would laugh at the suggestions that the French tanks had 5+1 gears , one forward and 5 backwards . But he wouldn't write that into war plans . The poor state of the r16 "academics" can be ascertained from the thing that ı am allowed to qoute Wikipedia like whenever ı want :

Goltz stressed how, despite the rapid initial victory against the Imperial French forces at Sedan, the new French Republic had been able to mobilise national will for a Volkskrieg ("War of the People") which dragged on for many more months (the Siege of Paris, the campaign on the Loire and the partisans behind German lines, the latter tying down 20% of German strength), the implication being that it was therefore unrealistic to expect a quick victory over France in any future war.

meaning any plan to defeat France before Russia could mobilize to human wave the German Armies in Prussia was bound to be a pipe-dream ...

solutions to strategic dilemmas do not grow on trees , nor they do immediately appear after an hour's of thinking . Goltz was just a military historian , kinda without any particularly bright future in Germany , when detailed to Istanbul in a mission . Abdülhamit needed a re-organization of the Military curricula , Istanbul needed something to wave in the face of Russians after the devastating defeats of 1877-78 , Berlin needed pro-German officers in the Ottoman Army . Von der Goltz found it a chance to do something for himself , something to talk of at old age . He is called the father of the [Ottoman / Turkish] Army , and considering the rewamped Military schools , mobilization plans and the re-arming that took place , it is indeed the case . The German Wikipedia page -which ı had Google translated- implies he didn't do any of that for bribes . English version avoids that alltogether and the Turkish page only rants it was him that instilled that hateable thing the military officers see themselves as better educated than anyone in Turkey -which tends to be real only if the officers work hard enough . Yet he also failed to instill the Prussian principle that the Military should avoid interference in politics . Spirit of the days ...

because it was his success in a way that the Ottoman Army was developing , Goltz thought what else it could do , apart from "protecting" German interests with officers under Berlin's indirect control . There were tons of possibilities which needed an actual army , not a Colonial police force under the fes ... What's more , Goltz had an answer to the British menace , too . If truly developed the Ottoman units could eject the British from Egypt . A threat great enough perhaps to make the British sit out the war to come . Certainly better than the alternative of trying to force or bribe London to allow a passage from Belgium to take the French from the flank . To achieve that the Kaiser was trying to raise a Navy , which was expensive enough to distract the development of the German Army . Or whispering to attentive British ears that they would defeat France (the arch-enemy of Great Britain) within weeks , if passage through Belgium was granted . Barbara Tuchman presents the last as the Kaiser typically talking too much . Then the was the case of Russia , that might have been kept busy - and with good results at that by a built up Ottoman Army ... Which leading to a possibility of "Half" Strategy in the East : A mangling of the Russian Armies for a negotiated peace in offensive action by three empires streching from the Baltic to the Black Sea, while the French were held at the Western borders for a similar mangling by the power of Defense . The immediate danger repelled , using the mineral wealth of the Ottoman Empire to get the German industrial output to a reasonable level free of that particularly vicious threat of blockade while hoping Great Britain would soon find some other trouble spot to get into some trouble up to its neck .

but then Orcs in Minas Tirith ...
 
von der Goltz wouldn't be exactly popular even in Istanbul with such notions . By 1900 the overriding strategy of the Ottomans for survival was avoiding any actual pretensions of being a threat to the vital interests of any of the Great Powers ; and sadly there could be no other strategy ... The Prussian was much admired for his determination to increase the potential of the Ottomans as if they were pure blooded Prussians and he would also regularly clash with Osman Pasha of Plevne fame -Sultan's senior Military Advisor . Because of the "schooled" officers . Von der Goltz was of course right to suggest that a modern army needed well trained officers for correct functioning ; Osman Pasha was also right to oppose the "unrestricted utilization" of such personnel . Because well trained in that context meant an awareness of the world . Something which then certainly implied the Ottoman Empire was not governed well . Which could mean , you know , a coup de etat ... In any case the Sultan was grateful to the Prussian , making him a Marshall 16 years before Kaiser did likewise .

you might remember ı had bought a book that cost almost half of my expenses a month . On Ottoman Military history during the 19th-20th Centuries , it says Goltz remained in contact with his students after he left Turkey in 1895 . Not complete , in that Abdülhamit also sent a team for consultation . After the disaster of Russia getting defeated by the Japanese ...

an Ottoman disaster indeed . We needed a balance of forces between the Great Powers and the balance would have inevitably been re-attained . During the intermission though we were sure to get raped , with all the "strong" Powers driving for fait accompli situations while the "weak" were unwilling to oppose and risk further "wrath" ... We were sure lucky with only losing Bosnia to Vienna : The Austro-Hungarians too felt somehow that we were "the" possibility for their survival and they had been ruling the area for the last 30 years anyhow .

the list of people under discussion were so easy for Goltz to write down : Out of the list that came from Istanbul he picked all the names that Berlin had identified as a threat to German interests with no known attractions to other Powers besides omitting every single name partial to Berlin . Advising the Sultan that these people might be good for the intention in mind ... All kinds of people and branches , almost half were graduates from Military Schools under the Prussian's curricula , the rest rising from the ranks , a quarter or so from Staff ... It's not always impossible to start from diversity to reach single mindedness .



then the question ... The book has the picture above showing the Marshall in Manastır 1909 with a young Turkish officer standing next to him . By the name of Mustafa Kemal . A party man , he wouldn't make the Abdülhamid's list and of course that wouldn't stop Goltz to put his name as the commander of all Ottoman Armies sometime in the future and Abdülhamit accepting the advice . Kemal was to remain so for the rest of the Empire's life , the next two Sultans ignoring Enver and the rest of Ittihad leaders to that particular end . What happened to the list (without Kemal -who wasn't in) is undiscussable in practical terms . Occidentalists are a myth .

that's how access to stuff only "Romans" like Franz Josef would be aware of was granted . That's how ı can refer to a discussion in some weird Turkish language forum a few years back on how some person has seen a book in a library with inked notes in the margin that suggests when the Greeks finally landed it was hot and sticky . Their aim , the treasure room of Troy , which can hardly be any bigger than the average safe in an average company , hence smaller than my living room ... Wikipedia says July 7 , year unknown . Wikipedia even offers this on actual Romans arguing why their "ancestors" would have wiped the floor with Greeks . Can't follow it all , am unfamiliar with the cast ... That library is apparently still popular .
 
once again the end of the year -time to have an account of the times . Don't expect sweeping vistas of wisdom . With the kind of the horse-blinds that define my pathetic existence and of course that certainly does not mean ı could do better if "free". Its relevance to the not-finished Tolkien narrative is merely an example: As a poorly constructed commentary on how time passes and leaves brilliant schemes behind ...

the outstanding thing about the year must be Putin's speech as reported on the December 12th where he states Russia is not trying to replace the US as the Superpower . Indeed ... Russians are not the only ones that desperately try to keep the US as the world's policeman ... Much to the bitter detriment of the Syrians ; it's a bitter yet much tastier pill for the web Irresuctionists that they haven't been able to crush a bunch of people in possession of guns and bombs and tanks and planes , with a single keystroke of their mighty pinky fingers . It's indeed sad that it was an utter failure to get the Russians and the Iranians to see that Esad would stay hence move in early ; the war might have already ended -with 50 000 less deaths .

the relation to the Turkish scene is of course the basic fact that the unstability of Syria is to be a fertile ground for campaigns in Turkey . Now that the Kurds have the territory in Syria and the rest is controlled by El Kaide , why don't let them give up and stuff ? 'Cause you know we get blamed no matter what , let's avoid further unnecessary casualties who are not even ours , right ?

high flauted nonsense apart and on a personal basis it might be remembered that ı am supposed to declare the most satisfying conjectural-project-by-self of the year . Feeling ı might yet get stuck with a prop command on my unstoppable march to Starfleet HQ and the orbital , ı have done an update on the Curtiss P-40 , taking a bit or two from the TIE stuff of yesteryears . Of course falls rather short as far as reputation of previous garbage goes ...


shaded somewhat by the fact that for a while ı couldn't actually browse the CFC unless using a proxy ... It does that in Decembers citing cookie issues , ı remember that it happened a couple of times before . It certainly doesn't relate to the funny stuff that took place in my own street . A neighbour throws out an old suitcase . It's seen , gets reported , Police arrives to check whether it's a bomb or not . Why , that's the thing they are supposed to do . When ı was a museum guide ı would still be alert against unattented packages ; it's just the times we live in . Plus ı took the answer from CFC in a thread in the relevant forum ; it happens to other people , too ...

nor related to the thing that a MP in jail has been released on the grounds of an unfair trial and he's like sweet talkin' to the newly elites . Accepts the peace in the country , accepts the new brilliant Middle east policy of the country ... Now that the injustice has been removed all the Jesw must shut up right ? Yeah , ı am aware of of the wrong letter order , but then ı am actually not ...

do not suppose the MP got out after he saw the light . He was destined to come out smelling out roses , even before he was taken to court ... How did that happen then ? Apart from being assured that he might have suffered a bit but he would be like a hero when out ?


back to the coup of Feb. 7th , this year or the last : ı have never been compelled to pay attention to the inside fighting between the newly elites . The Congregation feeling it had the wind , just like the sail ships of the past would strive to get the weather vane , tried to arrest the head of the Intel service . This guy is a guy of the PM and his arrest was averted by a change of the laws . Things have going "worse" since then . There were , for example , the Gezi events where the Congregation spent inordinate amounts of efforts to dis-prove that "some members had roughed up a few stinking tree huggers under the influence of their anger" at the Party . There are already debates on the exact timeframe the two parts of the "same thing" fell so apart . Some say it was the day when Military phone-tapping facilities were turned over not to the Police [Congregation] but to the Intelligence [Party] . Others say it was at the time of Mavi Marmara with the spiritual leader of the Congregation critisising the Goverment for allowing the ship to leave port or rather making a so feeble effort for the world to see that the Mavi Marmara actually would never risk penetrating the territorial waters of Palestine to force an Israeli operation : hence they took over the ship with much blood spilled , curiously enough only of Turkish Nationals ... The Party newspapers are much on the thing the Congregation never says anything bad about Israel .

which is rather easy to grasp . The Congregation is a "direct" American thing while the Party , despite declarations of yesteryears to the contrary , is a product of the "National Viewpoint" or "Orientation" of the 1970-80s . This is a somewhat more hardline type of Islamism which is a "direct" thing of the Saudis and similar Oil rich Arab states . The confrontation between the Islamists of Turkey then immediately becomes a byproduct of the Syrian mess , which apparently passed a 1000 days of violence instead of the hoped for 120-180 . America needs Iran , too . To reach this supreme goal of a Turk-Free Middle East and this kinda infuriates the sunnier Sunni brothers of ours ; they were hoping to get rid of long standing secterian issues by a determined American assault on Iranian targets as well . Being bankrupt , America has even allowed Russians back in the game , who are kinda deferential to the misfortunes of the Washington . And not particularly enamoured of Brown skinned hydrocarbon producers anyhow .

don't expect this to be a relief or something . It was planned long ago to let the "bad" people out , once the support they commanded was deemed strong enough and that planned in the very beginning by foreigners . The newly elites of both branches might keep thinking it is one swell move to ally with enemies of Democracy and stuff against themselves ... Since the courts acting for the benefit of the "accused" for the first time ever . Only slightly hyperboled for figurative means in this post ... No relief .

for there's no expectation of recovering anything from the non-stop Islamic thing . As a half baked Muslim where does that put me ? When ı was a teenager ı had read a few books on the subject with such dire projections for the end of the world . Such as tree branches pointing the way by leaning to one side and bushes parting to reveal the hiding pre-puberty Jewess .Trembling in a futile attempt to escape from the justice deserved . Starting from death by hacking . This ain't no joke , a couple of years back when Erbakan -the legendary head of the "Viewpoint"- died it was mentioned in a TV debate . ı already knew Islam was the True Religion and no kid was ever responsible before he/she became responsible with age and acquired Reason , yet this parting bushes thing was anathema to anything ı had otherwise learned ; was Allah a Nazi with an armband ? There's nothing un-Islamic in opposition to "Islamists" ...

whose efforts prove to be earthly politics day after day .
 
this is still within the Tolkien narrative by showing how people can get lost in the daily routine to forgo a couple of basic stuff to err , beyond a point of no-return or whatever ...

this headscarves issue for example . It's a tradition , not an order from God . Islamists made it an issue , modifiying into a personal liberties problem to get Western support -who otherwise sees anything as good if no burka / bad if yes burka ... Finally got a couple of female PMs to cover the heads during sessions . Panickily waiting for American thunder and lightning crashing in response to this fundemantalist show of force or pathetically pitiful glory , a Goverment Minister warned every single person in the country -who would pay attention to him- to avoid gloating on the mighty victory , declared they were respectful of others' choices about life . And naturally pointed out in the very same press conference that there was some woman TV presenter who dressed immodestly -moving into action so that they could pre-empt any provocations . Or maybe he supposed that really was the Step #2 , the War on Cleavage ... Next day she gets fired , a couple of months passes and some State organization for overseeing TV shows decides it was unfair but there is no need to punish the channel .

the PM's Step #2 was somewhat different . He said there were university students living in sin in the same house in some provincial town . Must admit ı was in the wrong about this , laughing at the Congregation declarations that this was a ploy to get them ; was thinking the next step would be denying University education to girls who should instead be making babies ... Seeing the interpretation would indeed be in that direction , there were valiant efforts by the Goverment Ministers like there were people who were renting their houses without paying taxes or Anarchists were running from the attention of the Police by constantly changing their adresses and "partners" . There were to be new procedures to get everybody under "control" by making it compulsory to register with the authorities in every rent deal , nothing sinister or something . Congregation saw it as a threat to their dormitories ... They serve the good cause , by allowing lodging and education to the poor who otherwise would not be able to get the Enlightment . And so climb up the statues of Atatürk to place baseball caps to defile the idols of idolatrious ...

more was to come . This time it was the turn of the study centers , the prep schools . ı erred on this , too . By assuming the Goverment's insistence on closing them was the cornerstone of the plans to deny higher education to the unworthy . You know if everybody gets the same questions it's reasonable to assume those who studied more will score higher and gain entrance to the universities . Considering this is the 21st Century , you need a proper education to be in the management . Well , widespread cheating as conducted in the last decade always get noticed . More so if the Policed utterly fails to catch anybody ... Even the voice of Russia supported this with pointing out University education was expensive and not meant for everybody . So it was just right to convert any prep school into private schools with back-breaking , hand burning fees of tuition . Making them all highly costly immediately removes them as a reachable goal for the "non-aristocracy" . This Aristocracy of course refers to the newly elites who wanted to introduce a law last year or so to give diplomatic passports and gun permits to the relatives of any past or current MPs . Once everybody sees there is no way they can go to university , there is no need for preparation for the exams . All the unwashed then may become happy cogs in the machine , working on the assembly line as per the declaration of some Goverment Minister that there is no innovation in the Turks ; we all must be factory hands . No doubt in factories owned by the Gulf Arabs .

congregation went nuts over this last , the prep school thing . As mentioned they are great places for brain washing , which unfortunately tends to get into a certain competition with Imam Hatips , the darling vocational schools of the National Viewpoint , which seem to graduate anything but Imams . It's suggested had the Congregation been a party it would poll between 1 to 5% yet they own fully 25% of prep schools and similar educational institutions in the country . It's an existential thing for them and the resilience shown proves the fact . Had mentioned once that ı was generally uncapable of following sermons by this Spiritual Leader because ı was mostly unfamiliar with the languge : ı might have been even once referred on a TV debate by an actual intellectual , as a symptom of the issue that people are supposed to mean well yet can't even speak the language ; how can one even agree on common goals then ? Happened again with the Leader on TV advising his followers not to mention the wrongdoings of the Party in prayers to Allah . ı was assuming he was playing for the moral high ground ; turns out he was not after ı read newspaper commentary to that effect . In the Islamic belief Allah is reported to have 99 names and ı am very sure one of them is The Merciful . See , if God is invoked , He might forgive the Party members ...

please allow me not to explain why ı find the Spiritual Leader's quaint declaration oddly quaint , that one where he would beat the hell out of the wife-beaters with an "Ottoman Slap" if he came face-to-face with any .

and of course , there is still the Deputy Speaker of the Parliament who declared co-education was a big mistake of the Old Republic . ı was always shy , never really comfortable around girls yet ı can see that boys should be educated with them to take notice that girls are also complex creatures that can think and stuff on their own -contributing mightily to a common cause as in the case of a family and not just as something to mount in the way of making babies .


this demand for increased population is a fixation with all kinds of the newlies . The PM -for example- has taken the number of kids to have for each family from 3 to 4 . Would have been real easy if the evil Esad had been made to go and Syria conquered , our population would have then been a round 100 million , without all that panting and stuff ...

and all the while this squabbling goes on between the newly elites , our future masters (the ones to lead anybody who didn't die in the Civil War to come) the Eaterners are the ones who suffer . The winter reported to be harsh , with news of hundreds of vehicles trapped in snow , Voice of Russia in cell-phone contact with a guy who's outta there for 4 days with the risk of people freezing to death as soon as they run out of fuel meaning no heaters in the cars , no food and two meters of snow all around ... This a day after the orders given to the Military to employ helicopters and stuff to care for the needy and Voice of Russia talking about the need for Compassion ; Putin actually loves the Turkish Goverment since it's possible that he could sell another Nuclear power station ... Compassion indeed . The impact of this call for humanity was slightly injured when it turned out this guy at the mercy of elements in the wilderness turned out to be a State employee with a 4x4 that could go over the fields ; don't know which brand of a car climbs up a two meter bank of snow , never been a car guy ... And he was spending the nights with a roof over his head in some service station of the State and he was now actually in the city waiting for the Goverment Ministers to arrive . Even the stuck-in-the-snow calamity turned out to be a traffic jam , just requiring a couple of tow-trucks to clear the route . Stinking Americans ...

yeah , exactly . In the sense that they have the temerity to shut down the goverment and fore-go helicopter supply flights to the seperatists !?!! And talk of compassion to ... The British actually ferried Taliban in the Chinooks to the Turkic areas of Afghanistan as it was too quiet up there , didn't they ? There is this character in aviation sites who is best defined with the word persistance and who does not object to being taught if it is really teaching . Since there is a possibility of that one writing up reports for the Kiddo to read ; the major companies are givin' some slack and people are allowed to kinda treat that one as a human being . As such am almost tempted to start up a thread about analysing the news that Santa Claus is to be escorted by F-18s . We in the Starfleet cannot fry Santa's ride and sink his house , 'cause he's not real . But gotta start somewhere , there is work to do , right ? Forget about the Starks ; the Winter is here ...
 
or maybe not . After becoming an issue of international dimensions Kiddo might not like being a focal point again . And much to work on . Apparently Lockmart claims to have a working fusion reactor , besides an hypersonic project , the "Son of the Blackbird" as SR-72 or something . Which naturally came on the day the reports were in ; about the Chinese demonstrator into very high supersonics if not the hyper realm . Americans in Defence love to sleep tight with spectacularly advanced projects which we are supposed to believe in the same sense that we are to hail Santa from the North Pole , the reindeer powered sled and elfs building toys and stuff as truer than true . The internet has already decided this Chinese thing is just a tinkertoy and there is nothing to worry about . Can't get anything from anything real , allow me to avoid any commentary ...


and of course the mighty F-35 goes on unabated ; with Top Gun II in low key development . Currently it's to be a surprise twist with the forthcoming bombing of my country by the US of A . Tom Cruise is to be first face on the screen talking about how he was just an actor in the first one of the 1980s but he is nothing compared to the real heroes , some 10 or so guys who will take part in the reduction of the Turkish Air Force and related "items" in a combat plane not yet fully tested , hence a realistic aspect -almost a documentary . It's open to conjecture , ı hear , whether he will mention that one Wednesday Night during the shoot they dropped by the Officers' Club and all the civvies showed no interest him at all ...

supposedly Ridley Scott has no interest in directing that kind of thing -but an F-14 version "immediately" following the first is a possibility . Currently written to take place in '89 it apparently introduces a new class to Miramar just after Maverick returns to fleet duty with a legacy that inspires anybody who climbs the stairs at Hangar One . The enemy this time is the MiG-2000 ; making it a Su-27 would confuse the audience with its similarity to the Tomcat . Scott is supposedly resigned to the thing that the Iranians wouldn't lend him a couple for the aerial sequences and it would have to be CGI throughout ... A CGI Val Kilmer is in the opening credits but ı won't tell what happens .

unbelievable ? Why not ? The Internet tells us the F-35 has 650 different ways of identifiying its prey , not 5 or 6 , not even -God help us- 65 ... The Turkish jets (down to just one way -Eyeball Mk. I) will be swatted like flies . That's 10 aces in the making we are talking here ! Can never get the Americans , if you don't come to KX , KX will come to you .


and befitting this year end evaluation by your fool , the fight between the Congregation and Party reaches a new height by this particular post was being drafted . Right in time for the FED's monthly charade about whether they should stop pumping billions and billions of dollars to the world economy . Actually ı was in the wrong once again , was thinking the reported questioning of many businessmen were some sort of signalling from the Goverment that they were not afraid of the "Market" . Turns out this was started by the guy who ran the Ergenekon investigations and aims directly at the Goverment with questioning the sons of Goverment Ministers in a corruption deal . With perfect timing . If the Gubmint does not behave , America is supposed to cut easy funding and Ankara can not borrow money to finance all those projects and perks the Goverment needs to win the Elections : If they don't win but lose it's quite possible they will all be in court . The PM already wovs no backing off : This trillion dollar fund the Gulf Arabs will invest in the country if we were more like them and not any of these heathen seculars is always taken to be real ; Saudis fund Cairo , they will be ready , right ? The Media was expecting a regular sex-scandal , 3 months before the Municipal elections .

with also various speculations . Like this was the last chance for that Police unit to carry out this operation for they too would soon be neutralised with postings to other units or cities . Congregation says this is a Goverment Black Ops , they are faking an investigation to look good in the eyes of the voters . Decades of Turkish Cinema and TV shows proggramme us all into liking the wrongfully wronged innocents . Some have even claimed this is combined pre-emptive operation to the benefits of both sides . In that the Little Imperialist aka the Turkish FM was cold shouldered in Erivan ; no Armenian authority will ever like a Turkish authority except those sign off up to Erzurum-Trabzon axis , after America bombs us sky high . Yet , the European Human Rights Court or something has found a coup-plotter in for life justified in the case he opened against the Swiss , the Armenian thing is not par with the Holocaust and it can be debated . This could increase sympathy , even for people like the guy in question who is actually guilty as charged and more ...

and for the observers of the scene in Turkey , this Hakan Şükür dude , the MP who resigned from the Party for being a sympathizer of the Congregation , is a once famous Football player who scored the fastest goal or something in a World Cup . 32 seconds from the start of the game and the venue was the one in 2002 ; when Bushism was strong and South Korea compliant in US match-fixing so that the country would fall over in love for our glorious finish as the Third in the tournament .

oh yeah , even Bush is in the news . With reports that he had banned publication of damning evidence against the Saudis who supplied all sorts of money to the 9/11 crews ... You know , Washington didn't need a war or something at that exact moment !With news that that some US Lawmakers have ben pressing Barack Hussein to declare it all . Not the time to be playing chickensheet ; make our day . With "proof" that the evil Turkish generals playing a dirty trick on poor America who was just wanting our good with reminders that the Public Vote had to respected even if it meant giving the Goverment to Islamists . Afterall we have 5 years of this where almost any villain in TV now wears the uniform . Being this wannabe historian ı still shudder at that General's announcement 1999ish that the Struggle against the "Backwarders" would last a Thousand years ...

forget about the Starks ; the Winter is here , it's 2014 that's coming .
 
have been somewhat delayed in keeping up . As ı write "today's" post over the weekend ı hope there won't be any new threads in the WH to kick this back to second page , bumping from that far is bound to be even more gross -with my pointless ranting and stuff . Have been posting elsewhere , true , and apologies to the readers with referencing the more sizeable among them here as the search function limits everybody to last 300 when one looks up for previous posts ; ease of reference and stuff . The linked below offer nothing for the discussion at hand . Merely a reminder on discussions like Germans' debatable chances to win the WW I-arrant nonsense on military andMutually "Assured" Destruction-some on the Armenian issue and a bit more - with recent political stuff somehow happening in Turkey.

otherwise the sole reason for the "lack of activity" is that the Civ III is such a "waste of time" , murderously effective in whiling away the evening . Was trying to write up a scenario of my own , decided to make a check on El Justo's Vietnam Deluxe for the unit lines and stuff for the modern era . Was taking great advantage of the AI to get obsessed with one particular tile and sending stacks and stacks to get that . Saigon was defended without far too much trouble ... Sorry , what ? Ahh , ı had played the North before -in my old computer . Anyhow , ı think ı put too much artillery in Saigon and the AI started attacking everywhere at the same time , and killing my elite units kept in storage for the 1972 "After Easter" offensive that ı was planning to win the game with . So all the effort between the 14th of January and the 29th for nought and ı had progressed to only mid '67 ...

will modify that scenario to "a Month a turn" instead of Weeks and remove a couple of techs so that ı can re do it - this time hopefully to a successful conclusion . ı like my units and like them even more when alive . Had grown an attachment to my first elite jet , a F-4J that got stuck at 4 kills . Kind of the thing that bolsters the need for reading , me being the loser nerd as always . And ı see an Osprey title in 2009 is almost delicately offering the possibility that the "Showtime 100" F-4J BuNo 155800 might have been damaged by a MiG-17 instead of a SAM as mentioned as par the course in a similar title of 2002 , just the like the way it has ever been since 1972 . The Vietnamese have been saying it was a MiG-21 ever since . Well , ı have been known to rant on that engagement where the USN got its only ace team of the war , and it seems that was even once mentioned in some aviation forum ı wasn't a member to begin with , but re-stress it ı don't question the acehood of Randy Cunningham and his backseater . Even if the officer in question , Driscoll does not ever claim that he saw the last of their kills to crash or even hit in a particularly detailed account of their May 10th, 1972 mission .

loser nerd ? Here's another to bolster that fame , considering debating on air to air kills in long over wars is a particularly sad waste of life one is given and one will not be given again -at least in this world ... The "only" USMC air to air loss of the war , F-4J BuNo 155811 has been a focus lately and all those books accuse the other pilot of the "Motion" flight -from VMFA-232 , for being so slow at 310 knots at 26 000 feet over North Vietnam with all 3 drop tanks kept on , inoperative radar , communications trouble with the USN Ships that controlled the aerial operations and a disregard for the safety of 155811 -which was flown by a completely green crew . It actually makes great sense if one makes a little what if , based on an assumption about an interception of a low flying An-2 , carrying a Polish Attachee to Hanoi no less , on some errand on August 26th ,1972 with entire attention concentrated on the jungle below with the radar dish pointing that way as well . Without any need to tell anything to Cordova / Borders flying in the 155811 . The experts would be in an uproar that the USN / USMC types didn't have it but Combat Tree was some "secret" yet well-known pain in the belly in the 1970s with even Somebody advising it to be buried somewhere so that the Russians wouldn't be awaken to its "advanced" features . Before you Google , Combat Tree is a system that that plays the part of a Russian radar set that beams all around and makes Russian made IFF systems on MiGs respond ; in effect it kinda doubles your radar range with positive ID . Makes a great Sparrow opportunity ; an Osprey title makes the range increase 3 times with regards to the kinda pathetic sets on the F-4D type -which certainly explains why a 'D is the top scoring American airframe of the war . Americans asked Somebody whether he was high ; it got to be some Sci-Fi story . That was roughly in time with the first 8 sets put aside for the Greek Phantoms that were to rape the THK over Cyprus -with the Advanced features- but don't bet anything on this , considering it's r16 who's posting ...

returning to August '72 , there was no need for the Motion lead to look up , to see the MiG-21 that shot his wingman down . And of course the Lead was justified in all his choices , considering the amount of time it would take his backseater to see the target in the ground clutter if things were not that co-operative he was better off keeping his tanks . And all those superb Osprey titles include some info that some USAF F-4 wing had an order that required at least 400 knots at all times over North Vietnam . And when combined with endemic poor performance in Sparrows , that made it impossible to use the missiles with success , since the Phantom would have been closer than the minimum shooting distance by the time that radar would have provided the firing solution . Motion Lead was taking his time -with the cruise speed for Phantoms said to be around 480 knots ... Technology never stops , F-22 proudly boasts a detection range of one thousand miles plus if any enemy pilot is dumb enough to use his radar or something .

well at least some little discussion of aerial operations post WW 2 . Otherwise ı would have to keep on the Roman stuff . Romans , you know , are bad again . Whether this is a general trend is yet to be seen , but the chief economic advisor to the PM has returned to the "field" ... The unfortunate readers of this thread know him better as the expert who shames all experts . Hours before the Turkish Central Bank felt ready to massively increase the interest rates . Know zilch about the economy but the trend on that day was pointing to general economic meltdown ... Don't know if it will help .

the expert who shames all experts wants to save quite a bit of the new Turkey narrative up to now . As such he was once again calling Kemal Derviş names . Roman Consul included . Specifically intented to work on people who might have once read that at the height of a previous eternally glorious march to purify the world , people like Gen. Tommy Franks were compared to Roman Consuls . Potentates of godlike aura and power , when America would shove Pax Dabya down all those smelly Muslims -and any other race or country that might have dared -justifiable since Romans had once done so ... Ah yes , newspaper reading Lefties are still a thing in 2014 . Meanwhile , ı had previously linked the thing to Syria and certain elements therein who had related to Christianity and its residues dating back to 1 AD itself (hence Rome) instead of anything that was to be inspired by the Ottoman experience . Might have been almost wrong in that , ı have to admit .

anyway , that thing started with the expert who shames all experts . At the Gezi events he was really fond of quoting the National Anthem . The poem forming the basis of the Anthem has 10 quartets ; the 4th challenges the West of the 1920s which was claiming moral high ground while savagely dismantling any opposition . "Civilization" spoke loudly in explaining why it had the Right to be a brute and nobody else ; but the only thing it had was material superiority . Mehmed Akif was indeed personally ready to face all that with Faith . The word used back then was Medeniyet , the translation of Civilization . The expert who shamed all experts vowed repeatedly Medeniyet would not win , could not win .

then , to his detriment , his boss the PM took the word and used it to justify of all those construction projects ; roads were the sign of Civilization ... Also used in the fight against the Congregation ; Medeniyet could not accept them , with their scheming ... The expert who shames all experts naturally now uses the very word Civilization -in its French pronounciation . And since this is a foolish attempt of mine to make something remotely useful to History , his finest at the height of the Gezi events was reported by all pro-Goverment newspapers without the slightest negative remark . He did say that opponents and enemies of the new Turkey were trying to kill the PM with Telekinesis . Certain station chiefs in Ankara were stressed to discover their work of years in bringing up the new Turkey could have become viral worldwide -instantly- as a terribly funny joke ... Or maybe not , considering Jirinovsky has a party in Russia after years of threatening people with his sonic pistol ...

hopefully a few things on Tolkien and on to "my city as Cirith Ungol" in the next post .
 
alas , a promise that can't be kept with me noticing the latest issue of Air Forces Monthly ... Of March 2014 , coming out at the beginning of February . Well , that magazine is actually a bit slow when it comes to such stuff . The buyer can't have all the money to buy all the magazines and nobody would like paying for the old news ; so ı have always found it annoying to see magazines coming two months earlier than their due and failing to mention events that happened two months before anyhow . The thing almost relevant is though it's Phantoms galore with one almost on every page .

starting with a couple of shots of Greeks in low level . Absulomente relevante in that we just took delivery of our version of AWACS in a spectacular performance by Defense Industry worldwide . Supposed to be completed by getting all 4 planes in 2007 , it has just taken twice the projected duration to get the first . Meaning in a war we will have (!!!!!??!!) advantages in radar detection and the Greeks show the world they still practice Terrain Masking and they will kick our backside as soon as practicable . Back in the day when America allowed us to have some Tanker aircraft and the Greeks opted to buy AEW from Sweden , flying low was utterly useless ; we were taught so on the web . Then the turn of the THK , so beloved of this new Turkey that supposedly would use Airpower in-the-21st Century-style-to-glory . Oh yes , then even the Iranians with a two page spread on their latest manouvres , with -you know- a Phantom of theirs as the centerpiece ...

oh yeah , another Phantom post ...

might-be-interesting thing : The term Trolling dates back to at least 1970 , the Bombing Lull in Vietnam . Where the USN would send up a plane to tease and irritate the NVN defenses to get them to open fire and would heavily "respond" when it happened . As such NVN would be bombed only because of their fault . Although limited to Air Defenses , such missions were required for the overall outcome ; considering the North was by then fully committed to an invasion of the South and any SAM Battery destroyed today wouldn't be there tomorrow .

trolling doesn't always work though . Carried out with such force with Phantoms 40 years ago , it certainly doesn't translate well into the glorious 21st Century . Ankara supposed Syrians opening fire on some unarmed recon THK Phantom would bring in the whole of NATO to realise our glorious future ; the plane got shot down instead and there is still no sight of glory ... Since ı like the sight of Phantom so often described as ugly , ı just have to get this out of my chest . 'Cause there is talk of understandings and stuff in the air . With Greek Cypriots supposedly offering a deal that involves the Natural Gas deposits off the island . In return for cheap energy we allow a re-union of the two parts of the moribund or long dead State of Cyprus or whatever . That might even lead to a "Peace" with Israel which -you know- could protect us from the disasters of the Centenniary of 1915 , of those deportations to be more clear .

what to make of this surprising turn-around ? First , obviously there is not worthwhile gas over there , otherwise the mood would be more like "Go to Hell!" Economic crisis forcing their hand ? Greeks will be deeply offended to learn Turks still take them seriously . Just like this offer of Peace on the 40th Anniversary of 1974 , which kinda happened because the Greeks had some shiny new Phantoms . Our obvious incapability to comply will soon prove we haven't changed our spots in the last 4 decades and we deserve what will happen to us ... A quickie in a PR win , to be even better with some stupid crass commentary that Cyprus would have been all Greek by now , had Greeks not gone to war in '74 . And with cleansing the Turkish Minority by one and twos over the years which they were merrily doing under UN cover if nothing else . It's just appropriate to make 2014 the year of the Phantom ; ı believe we have some for the rest of the world as well . Pointless ranting ?

As usual and leading to a failure about keeping promises . Or maybe keep them ı can . Honest to God , this is still a discussion about the Lord of the Rings with Nixon approving Mordorian locales as code names for a few spots in Anatolia .
 
well , the Pentagon was just following the nerds' lead . ı have certainly mentioned Istanbul was matched to Minas Tirith one or two times in this thread . It would have made sense for the nerds , imagining a major city , defended extremely well by not a king but a caretaker in the sense Byzantium would be like Rome-but not Rome , Roman-but not Roman ... And it had to be well defended because the barbarians were just across the "river" and if somebody had the means to use a projector pointing up in the sky in those days , the people in the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire would have been able to see the location of the enemy capital ... My city has a few locations within its provincial borders that kept the Ottomans at bay for decades ; a Wikipedia check informs Cirith Ungol was first a stronghold of Men before they left Mordor for good . And of course , not knowing the Crusades would be a tough thing to do for any student of history with every civilized country in the world sending at least token forces to face the barbarians and stuff ...

nixon's hold on things in America between the time he left as the Vice-President and returned as the President has been debatable , ı hear . With Americans streneously refusing that he would receive regular briefings from the "Establishment" since there was a Catholic at the White House . Guess with Johnson at the helm there was a gap after 1963 ... In any case full military planning would be kept below him and his equals . The thing here is that the Laser Guided Bomb was really making its presence felt by 1970 and this "Paradigm Shift" it offered was so dizzying that more people than one might have termed as a reasonable percentage would desire to have the devastating effects of Modern Air Warfare instead of Alliances and Coalitions and relationships . By 1970 , Americans were confident that they were sure to make for the "loss of security" with the "expiration" of our NATO membership so that we could be gainfully employed in war with our Baathist neighbours to the South . This of course leads to some conspiracy theories on who would benefit most from such a war . And our displeasure could turn us into Commies in no time ; leading to sure conclusion that our key territory would have to be secured -which turns into an American invasion of Turkey .

cirith Ungol , once taken from a couple of nerds whom the CIA dudes knew from university campuses , was to be a base area for Special Operation teams with the mountainous area around . For operations planned with the latest from Vietnam in mind . Which made it clear that a defending Air Force could have a few hurtful stings and the Communist MiGs had taken much advantage of the fact that the gradualism of Rolling Thunder had kept their airfields safe for too long while dogfighting was an extremely slow way of destroying enemy aerial assets . Hence the first act for the CIA teams placed around Cirith Ungol would have been moving into preliminary positions to mark for the initial airstrikes targeting the Eskişehir , Bandırma and Balıkesir Air Bases . Targeting pods to direct the LGBs were no toys one could have in abundance . As proven in 1972 with only 6 available to be taken up North Vietnam because the other systems were unfit to be carried by Tactical Fighters . Indeed , it was the 21st Century when America had enough pods to make any war a LGB war ... Hence homing beacons and stuff was to hurt us good , wiping the 1st Tactical Air Command of the THK on the ground . Bandırma was then supposed to be taken by an USMC Heliborne operation to have CAS in the aftermath of the fall of Thrace or if could be helped , during the fall of Thrace . The issue of large scale operations on the European Turkey raised an issue of numbers ; this is where Washington decided to bring in the Greeks .

so the timetable would be like this : A war with the Greeks over Cyprus , we get into a internal mess after we get defeated in a short sharp Air-Naval battle , blame the West , get kicked out of NATO , which encourages a coalition of Syria and Iraq attack us to get Euphrates and Tigris -since all the dams planned of them could have meant a lot of thirst for the Arabs . Now it becomes a land conflict with we using a mass conscript army in a mutual bloodbath . We inevitably ask for Russian assistance ; even if we don't it's so easy to fabricate such stuff . Apart from the discontent in the US over the Draft and other "disasters" related to Vietnam , Nixon's Guam Doctrine aims squarely to mass somewhere else for something else . He is very knowledgeable about of Kennedy trying to force us out of NATO in '62 or Johnson getting into a rage in '64 . McNamara's was missiles , the Bullpup and improvements in the pipeline and his aim , a steady attrition in the Middle East to keep Moscow from interfering more in the colonies of the European Empires ; so that the hate against the exploitation of the White Man could be overcome given "time" and America could rule Africa and Asia . Nixon's , though , is more of proving that he is better than his precedessors .

fortunately / unfortunately , the 3rd Opium War , where America aimed to get put us into a negative enough light to deserve B-52s bombing our cities , (for we were cultivating in some controlled measure to meet the demand for legal painkillers and the CIA field office or something in Thailand wanted to push their own investments in the Golden Triangle) was delayed by so many things ... Say , Vietnamization was shown to be "interesting" in Lam Son 719 , where the South invaded Laos under some enlightened guidance of Washington . The astrologer of the South Vietnamese President had previously warned the omens were not good , a visit from the CIA corrected this . Resulting in an utterly satisfactory defeat of the South which in turn required undeniable American involvement . Since the Cambodia incursion of 1970 had struck "a raw nerve in the American body politic: ... massive anti-war demonstrations were taking place all over the United States" , the 1971 Laos invasion could have led to even more . America no longer liked boots on the ground . Cue the entrance of Greece as depicted a paragraph above . Which needed an update of their military forces , something that would take time . North's Easter Invasion was an unwelcome development , since a wholesale destruction of the NVA like the debacle of Tet 1968 would have enabled the Americans to mass elsewhere . Though it took real time for the American Airpower to grind its way to expected victory , taking the whole of 1972 . Then there was the Yom Kippur War , which stripped the American reserves clean .

especially of things like Sidewinders "operating on a different wavelenght" ; required since Sept. 11, 1972 when VMFA-333 Shamrock Phantoms engaged the Vietnamese over Phuc Yen and Lasseter/Cummins in RED ONE downed a Fishbed . "Maj Lasseter then saw a black MiG-21 threatening [RED TWO with Dudley / Brady] and he warned his wingman to ‘break’ before firing his remaining Sidewinder, which also guided successfully. They saw the MiG diving away, trailing smoke..." Says an Osprey title , from 2012 . Crediting Lasseter with one kill and a probable , even if he was soon hit by a SAM and his wingman was hit by flak ... Take a hardcopy Air War Hanoi by Robert F. Dorr from 1988 and it becomes far more interesting : "Another MiG evaded a Sidewinder fired by the Marines by popping a flare which lured away the heat-seeking missile - an incident not reported in any other encounter in the conflict." Real easy , no Desert Storm yet and the American frustration-if-not-defeat in Vietnam has to be explained ... And there you have the full spec Russkie with the flare . With Desert Storm and so many splashed MiGs you need no explanation that's to cloud America's place next to God . Hence the change in the narrative .

the relevance to thread lies in the thing it can take a little bit more of effort to stab your allies in the back when everybody "has" access . We might have heard of that flare thing , well aware that Greek Phantoms will be delivered months ahead of ours in 1974 and that smells of war , 'cause Phantom is King Kong especially after the USN learned to fight the F-4 in the vertical with 'winders for effect . We might go to Russians -cap in hand- and ask for some flares in the name of our fraternal brotherhood against Imperialism in the '20s . Hence capability in the IR bands other then the Sidewinders all NATO members have , hence proof against flares . To be produced and retrofitted in the Black by Lockheed , which raised hell about it . Since we had tons of Starfighters , made by or under the licence of Lockheed , the ensuing Turkey Shoot could have meant a very bad publicity for the company . The Nixon White House solved it by solemn promises . In any case it made sense using Sparrows on the Zippers as the '104s were called were like fast , making it somewhat harder to employ heat-seekers . Leaving the F-100s and F-5s as the targets . With reminders that American pilots would be in the cockpits of Greek Phantoms if the Greeks failed to produce adequate numbers of aircrew (with the "volunteers" set up in teams of one American and one Greek , with only Intercom available to the American who was likely to be a veteran of Vietnam) .


as said , Yom Kippur put paid to the stocks , especially by this Battle of El Mansura in which the Eygptians claim something like 14 kills against an "unbelievable" mass of some 100 planes composed of F-4s , A-4s and no Mirages . Including a Phantom force that strictly remains feet wet and the Egyptian pilots are warned to avoid by all means -with apparent suspicion that they are top-notch dudes out there over the Med . Israelis refuse it all , the only reference ı have is a PDF copy of a book that has something like two Israeli Phantoms attacking and one of them has a very young officer , a complete novice who sees vortex coming off the wingtips and says something like "Cool, so much smoke" ; his pilot assumes they have been hit and they are on fire . So they abort and then we read about the two retreating Israeli jets fighting half the Egyptian Air Force on the way out ...

that Lockheed got the Echo I computer software to calculate the return angles of radar waves to eventually win the F-117 contract or that so-incredibly-secular party founded by Atatürk was in a coalition with an Islamist Party after the 1973 elections have nothing to with this thread , how do you invent such stuff ?

it's all narratives and perceptions just like the tale of Lassater and Cummins right in this post . Say the mid-point is a different Osprey title from 2002 , where the flare is no biggie or a very big biggie with "about half the intensity of a Mk-45 (a standart US night flare)" yet the "Sidewinder had no hesitation at all. It went straight to the MiG. It didn't go for the decoy flare." Moreover , Dudley fires a Sparrow at the departing trailing-smoke MiG ... On the way home , after spending so much fuel fighting the Commies , trust some unidentified Phantom to appear on the scene and the USN tanker aircraft to turn to a wrong heading assuming it's the WMFA-333 flight it's supposed to refuel ; in the end the both planes crash , this time running out of fuel or something . Next day , it's the photo-op day with the two Vietnamese flags painted on some other Phantom , because both F-4J BuNo 155526 and 154784 went down because of fuel issues ... Possibly because Dabya and his even better Secretary of Defence , Rumsfeld want to invade Iraq and they need some convincing their own Military that Americans are so super and have been always so super that they can ignore the Chinese -slowly improving their potential- and the Russians -who merely need financing to get back some spine- by going into a bloody and messy grinder of Iraqis and drain of the American economy that they can push the release of how they "got" some full spec Russkie ... Remember the times when Rumsfeld cut down the size of the American Forces for the invasion , never minding arranging the "treasonous vote" in the Turkish Parliament , to prove the Americans would beat Saddam with two arms and a leg tied behind ?

to encourage the doubters in Pentagon itself considering it was the timetable that Iraq in 2003 , Syria 2005 , Iran 2007 and one final exertation in 2009 that the new 'stan in the Middle East would be free to rise among the ashes for the glory of man , liberty , freedom and whatever and ever ; freakin' Americans who knew and yet loved their country .

somethin' troubling me ? Yeah , Dexter's great finale , which was last night in Turkey . Are you kiddin' me , didn't happen ... ı don't accept it .
 
the Phantoms for Greece wasn't much liked in Turkey . That America would actually plot for the destruction of this country was not accepted . Naturally . Since all those in power were in power because they did their utmost in order not to upset Washington , being loyal but confused puppies . Indeed there was the quite widespread dissatisfaction over Cyprus where the West was obviously playing Athens against Ankara and could not satisfy one without totally alienating the other ; but "Nationalism against the Reds" was the standart fare - that Makarios was an Archbishop with good relations with Moscow and the West , in addition to being a Greek , was doing wonders . The Johnson Letter of 1964 which proclaimed that we could not use weapons given as American aid in National affairs (like operations in Cyprus) was actually advised by Ankara , since an actual "overseas" clash would abundantly demonstrate the mockery the Turkish Military was . Don't "Kunuri and Vegas" me , of those two successes in Korea , the first came to only because half the Brigade had already bolted and the rest had to fight for their lives , the second series of action had firepower support on American scale .

the harshness of the letter was a surprise , the discovery that it was written "alone" -as in without supervision- by a real low level US diplomatic official of Greek origins was an another . Ankara had no idea that Johnson had decided to put a brake to actual provocation of the Reds to concentrate on internal affairs where this Great Society was to achieve something for the American people and make a substantial part of his legacy ; he didn't want to be remembered "solely" that he benefitted from the assasination of JFK . As such his only sop to American "Expansionism" was to be the maelstorm in the Middle East , where we can't stay in NATO because the West says "____ you" to our face and supports the Greeks while they kill and rape and kill in Cyprus and we become easy prey and meanwhile Israel kicks _ss on the "back" of Arabs so that the Russian economy can not cope up with the replacements of the lost Arabian military gear and America picks up the world by Jeans and Coca Cola . The beginning of this glorious adventure on this path of glory ? Erenköy , a tiny enclave on Cyprus where almost the entire Turkish "Resistance" is surrounded by the end of July 1964 .

the problem was the Greeks . Had won an uprising against the British during the 1950s , only to see their "victory" snatched by the potential of Turkish Military so that they had to be content with an independent Cyprus instead of Enosis . Were so ready to get into grips with the Turks but the THK was perfectly capable of making noise as it did in December 1963 , whenever jets screamed overhead the morale of the Turkish Cypriots surged sky high . Ethnic cleansing is done best if the victims accept their fate and die meekly . Erenköy would fall , because the Greeks were so superior and Erenköy might survive if the jets came . The UN was covering the Greeks , America was silently pushing Ankara with talks of dire consequences if jets flew . Because you know , the Greeks had F-104s in 1964 , they too might fly , resulting in a war between NATO allies . Ankara asked for the letter ; America would stop the intervention , Turkish Cypriot resistance would end . Ankara would of course survive , the Military "being" Kemalist and İnönü being Kemal's second in command ; the poisoning affair only a bragging point , though to be honest not of İnönü himself .

on August 2, 1964 the USN clashed with the North Vietnamese torpedoboats . The South had been raiding North , the North had the temerity to challenge the USN covering the South . Bah , nothing serious , nothing to think about . The siege of Erenköy was progressing nicely ; Johnson had no reason to be concerned about that either . Then the 'Gulf of Tonkin Incident' on the 4th . A furious battle raging on for hours between USS Maddox , while USS Turner Joy was kept out by jamming and apparently something under the water . The one clash with the Red Banner Fleet of them Russkies and Americans didn't even got to see their enemies ... Years later , sometime in the 1990s MacNamara went to Vietnam and asked Giap what had happened . Because , had it been an American plot to get into a war in Vietnam , USS Turner Joy would have actually filed a report ... That on the night of August 4th , they too saw evil , miserable little-sized people with coloured skins attacking American ships on the high seas in their puny little vessels flying Commie flags . Giap said nothing .

back in the 80s he would have . Some harsh words on how Johnson exploded on this "obvious Russian intervention" to save a NATO member some 5 time-zones away and forced him to return back the Kennedy way of doing business with "bearing any burden, paying any price" ; accepting the attrition campaign that MacNamara himself designed ... The campaign which as collateral damage killed some 3 million Vietnamese . As if America was not aware Mao's China was actually starving and Krushev's replacements in Kremlin were still sold on continueing on his Anti-Stalinist programme . The exact reason why , of course ...

the next sentence contains a word CFC does not allow . It begins with the letter G .


america fought them ______ because America found it too hard to kick some Turkish backside .

serious ?




of course not . And the picture will make sense in the post below .
 
post #2000 and am still alive ... Not that ı am doing anything risky at all , but the thing is ı was kicked out of some web site at post #400 with something that certainly bordered on the agressive , helps me to remember ı must be mindful that am merely a member on a site that fills quite a bit of an otherwise emtpy life . Must be obvious that ı do live in a world of my own , devoid of much of an achievement in any field , and the pic in the #1999 post above is a symbol of the year 1999 that actually hurt me with its absence of Eagle Transporters ... Moon Base Alpha was a staple of the single channel Black and White Turkish TV of 1970s and it was much cooler than , say , Dallas . Was a kid , had no idea that actual space programmes are harder than frame by frame shooting of scale models . Actually was a little kid , whenever some space monster appeared ı would run to the next room , until my older brother would signal "All clear" . And it took me almost a decade to learn why you didn't see the Earth in that show ; had missed the first episodes / had to read a novelization to learn of the nuclear catastrophe that propelled the Moon out of orbit ... Add that to Star Trek and mix that with my utter failure in life and 1999 was an heartbreak ; long ago ı had dreamed to be in Space and couldn't even finish the university ...


"anniversaries" and "milestones" are useful for getting into some thinking on what has happened since the last ones . #1000 on Jun 29, 2012, 02:01 AM , was all about the brilliant trolling of sending a THK Phantom to "thereabouts" of Syria so that its engagement by the Syrians would be justification for all NATO to be a man and do invade under Ankara's bidding . We have been on the Helga concept -maybe on the previous page- , right ? This incredible lust for an Empire , if only because the West didn't seem capable of being a man -as implied by all the brilliant people with beaming smiles on the TVs ... So ready to comment on the soon-to-come NATO operation that would "double" this country . Those people are still on TV , without much of the smiles , on how the Russia asks for it in Crimea . You see , the utterly frightened Damascus of 2010s couldn't stand on its own .

frightened ? Yes , with some qualifications . Resigned to their fate after 9/11 , they were expecting an American invasion , Israel's "security" being paramount for Washington . To make it comin' the Israelis actually picked up a dogfight with MiG-29s , reportedly shooting down two in September 2001 . Was delayed and delayed . They presumed Dabya was simply a buffoon with their keen observation of the military performance of the US in Iraq . (That performance wasn't particularly stressed .) Sometime around 2006 the American invasion was really expected after US troops crossed the border to attack a Syrian border town . Still didn't come . The fright started then , with Hizbullah's success in Lebanon against Israel . The Syrian elites could have co-operated with any invasion , by looking the other way as soon as practicable as the Esads and a few cronies fell . The implication was that the seething rage of the Muslim Brotherhood was the preferred method as their Jihad-to-come would be bloody enough to destroy the country on the cheap and the Hizbullah would soon take over the Shia of Syria . "Moderate" Islam is what the West wants , secular must be some quality that must belong only to the West for some reason . Iran was being co-opted with the promise of extented control over all Shia , so that it wouldn't be overly active in Iraq against America ; the whole goal being the creation of this new 'stan in the Middle East . Let me tell you , will never understand why Uncle Sam doesn't come shootin' straight .

but then what will happen will happen and hopefully this thread will remain as some sort of a timecapsule after we Turks are done with to be no more . And for my own "legacy" ı must avoid a few things . Like any semblance to gloating or bragging . Future historians might check the posts around and see a non-r16 claim that the posts would be all understood within another 1000 posts ... Considering it had taken some 4 years for me to get that far , ı "would have achieved my goal" by something like 2016 . This is a notion ı would like to sink immediately in case some moron of a future historian reaches the conclusion that ı have increased the rate of posts to achieve whatever that might have been ... ı have never ever aimed for the release of the wrongfully incarcerated Turkish Military personnel ; their release was merely foreseen because ? Because .

there's nothing surprising in any foresight in me ... On the weekend ı watched a Turkish movie with Cüneyt Arkın in it . He is the exact Turkish match to Chuck Norris ; and was ambushed by an enemy . Fell dead with only two rounds , one in the back and one in the chest as he turned around to face his assailiant . He usually takes 20 before waking up in hospital , something like 50 to die . His wife found him dead with an infant boy in tow . No worries , the boy will grow up to be Cüneyt Arkın to kill his father's killer and to fall in love with the daughter of his father's killer . The Father Cüneyt Arkın always has a moustache if not the complete set with beard and the Son Cüneyt Arkın is always clean shaven ... Throughout the movie , ı was regularly 5 minutes ahead of the events .

some events never change ... There was nothing mysterious in the Tonkin Gulf incident of 1964 . That the White House had allowed the Japanese come in was widespread by that 8th of December . USS Maddox would be solely in the game , to keep the numbers of people who knew and could possibly leak and USS Turner Joy simply acted for professional integrity 'cause there had been no Presidential Orders related to USS Turner Joy . Never minding Johnson keeping a very close eye on the Pentagon , weekly assigning targets in the Rolling Thunder campaign lest the war gets out of hand . And he did hate the guts of NATO allies who stayed in despite the insults of October / November 1962 and protected by them Russkies .
 
this is the kind of the thing that gets even non-professionals like me to be real psychics about the series of events that will happen right before the mess this country is supposed to find itself in . The case of a former Chief of Staff has long been a showcase of the "Democracy" in Turkey . This guy happens to be someone who opposed the attempted coups of 2003-4 , who has shut down Military websites involved in Black Propaganda against the Goverment , opposed the investigations -and fabrications- against the Military and retired . Some two years back , in the ever more glorious cascade of ever increasing Democracy as examplified a new bunch of generals arrested in every wave with higher ranks suffering -like Brigade commanders this week and Division commanders next week- the Democrats needed to arrest one , just one , Chief of Staff . This guy's precedessor had surrendered to the Goverment on suspected charges of corruption or some other scandal . This guy's successor had been forced to resign to clear the way for the chief of goverment generals so that one was out , too ... So , this guy got it , on charges of entering a terrorist organization also known as the Turkish Armed Forces at the tender age of 13 , at some Military School .

the Congregation and the Party are in deadly action against each other . The Party is vulnerable this way or that way with charges of corruption ; their defense seems to focus on proving the Congregation is a bunch of liars , as proven by their crimes in fabrication of evidence against the Military . Concurrently a through re-wamping of the system is taking place and every wrong is supposed to be corrected . Like releasing people wrongly put behind bars . Something taking time ; this terrorist-since-13-years old Chief of Staff was supposed to be immediately released , but his lawyer couldn't find out which of the multiple Courts in the same building was responsible . So that paperwork could be completed . Guess what , the same courts are on autopilot when it comes to others . The very first person to be released turned out to be the Police Informant whom every journalist accuses to be the mastermind behind the killing of Hrant Dink , the Armenian journalist whose murder changed Turkey . Another automatic affair include the killers of some Christian missionaries . No wonder , no amazement ... The Democracy arrived in Turkey with some 26 or 27 different cases combined into one ; totalling 120 million pages as far as reports go . The Military was responsible for everything ; add some actually real criminals in uniform , pour down an avalanche of claims and garbage like the missionaries were killed on orders from coup plotting generals trying to frame the Islamists and there you are : The perfect mechanism where anybody who might oppose gets branded if lucky , in jail if unlucky .

clearing the way for a new kind of Turkish Military that would turn a blind eye to seperatists and fight in the name of Islam and Democracy , like invading Syria . Don't know what happened on the way . It looked real enough though . Esad countered with pouring the goodies on the Sunni merchant class . For otherwise a bloodbath with so few survivors was what awaited the Syrian elites . Made them ready to co-operate with all comers . At its peak , you know , they were actually talking an Union with Ankara . Where we were to unite . Where personal prestige didn't enter the discussion . Consider the case of Syrian Cabinet members . You think they would demand to become Goverment Ministers of the new country ? Perhaps at the rate of two Turks to one Syrian ? You would be wrong ! You think they would be content to become assistants to an all Turkish Cabinet ? You would still be wrong ! What the Syrian Goverment Ministers wanted was to become assistants to assistants of Turkish Goverment Ministers . They knew they would be under attack from the Islamists Barack Hussein cleared to take over the Middle East , counting on the integrity of Turks , the honour of the Turkish name . Only because it was so clear : if it came to war there was no way they could win . They knew America would intervene no matter what ... A bloodbath with so few survivors ...

ankara of course had no intention of dealing with Esad . A marriage with Godless Syria would irritate the Arab Street , meaning we couldn't take over Egypt in addition to Syria -and Iraq ... Considering we were also supposed to empower our long oppressed , naturally Sunni , Kurdish brothers . Syrians had no recourse other than fighting . Imagine their surprise when America didn't show up . Damascus knows the war is not against them , the American war that is . The Islamists' war , they are handling it in the way they long knew . There's of course still a possibility that America could intervene . The whole world knows Ukraine was pushed to the fire to distract Russia -all Russian-NATO co-operation have been stopped so that Syria can be bombed for failing to destroy the chemical weapons . The whole world also knows it's rather odd for some bunch of Islamists attacking a bunch of retirees in China with machetes , so that China would know there's no good in Islam .

there's always a fixation in such matters . At the San Fransisco crash , the Chinese all walked away apart from the unlucky who were run over by the Emergency Services . Hope those 2 or 4 passengers with stolen passports will not turn out be whiter brotherly idiots , blowing that Malaysian 777 up in error . Trust China increasing security ; since there is fixation in such matters . Incredibly amazing , too , that the radars do not record the flight paths , so that the impact area could be calculated in 30 seconds ... Malaysia covering up , Vietnam pushing it's better if an accident , China demanding the plane to be found ... One can only prove mettle by doing things that hadn't been done before , right ?


post #2001 is just the regular r16 weird and the movie of that name is too much Science Fiction for me ; still don't exactly know what happens in it . ı should certainly limit myself to things ı can at least fathom . Like referencing these few posts ı do rail against Islamism , which is far from Islam or adding a footnote of sorts about Countess Albiona in Conan , him saving her from execution and weirdly for any Conan adventure , nothing happens ... Saving Damsel in Distress -to take advantage of the fact- being the key ingredient of such stuff , the writers of the later comics appear to have been struck by the same . The answer they came up with in the King's Road episodes is this . Conan is a vagrant sell-sword that comes upon a Prince on his way to a major conspiracy in Tarantia , the capital of Aquilonia . That's where he meets her , a kid with a doll in hand . Her mother intends to revenge her husband / Albiona's father by killing the king and Albiona is a confidence increasing measure . For the King expects the revenge but would doubt her mother would risk her . Typical Conan adventure , he saves Albiona from zombies -actually corpses with some sort of parasitic bugs inside and meets his ministers of future , who are much impressed by the fact that he stays and faces all those risks merely to save a little girl .

yes , indeed correct . It's beyond my real and imaginary abilities to fully explain why the West is so keen to create "Allies" for Turkey in its fortcoming anhilation . Must be because we are chicken and keep hiding . Probably not glamorous enough if we get knocked out in two hours flat .
 
the milestones are also important ; for people wanting a change . Say , a birthday makes more sense than any other day on the calendar for one to make a change with one's pathetic existence ; to overcome the bad fortune the Fate has condemned one to ... Oh yeah , am now living the 44th of my years and what do ı do ? Me daily gaining fat almost to be 200 pounds and stuff ? ı decide to clear the map by the turn limits in an epic game ! Nearly 10 days of gaming and it's by the way a LotM map ı do cherish ... Average size , 60% water , 7 opponents and trust me to use CivAssist in some half measures to put the Moriquendi next to Sindar . Now ı certainly have nothing against Cate Blanchett but they are supposed to be located in the Australia of the map all by themselves , where ı can kill them all in the first campaign of the game with the relatively poor units Isengard has early in the tech tree . Battle starting at about the exact half of the time limit ... So that their cities could be fine tuned in time to support the original five ı am allowed to settle myself by the "traditions" of this map ı have perhaps played 10 times already ... Had Sindar had Rohan as its neighbour instead of the scientific Moriquendi , ı certainly could have built every single wonder myself , instead of losing the equivalent of the Great Lighthouse .

and this is not the only thing ... Trading techs allow the two Elven civs to reach early 3rd age by the turn of their continent comes . And their 5 bar / 3-7-1 defenders are quite a thing for my 4 bar / 6-1-1 attackers ... Delayed here and there . For it's also well known ı do lack concentration and persistence in conducting a multi-front multi-prong offensive and like Peace too much , will have to re-do it again . For Angmar and the Armageddon it will receive with my 150 pieces of artillery in situ still awaits .

the power of Prediction . Have played it 10 times already as said already . Know where the cities will be , where the resources are . Even the AI knows what will happen . Moriquendi settles two cities less ; the one on some 7-8 tile island goes to Harad , which can do a better job of defending it ; for the second ı have to keep a spare settler . My settlers are auto-produced and are rare assets limited in time by the tech tree -if ı want to have the equivalents of the Great Library and Colossus ... Even the campaigns are now "scripted" and Sindar tends to help a lot with building its Civ specific walls-in-every-town-on-the-continent wonder in a city that ı will take first from the sea and use the inevitable Scientific leader to rush the bigger-walls-in-every-town-on-the-continent wonder . The fun comes from the thing that mountains are off-limits to so many units and there are so many mountains . You find frustrated kings with hundreds of units that they can't take to war , except repelling landings in which 4 horseman put ashore simultaneously equals the D-Day in magnificience and size , a truly colossal undertaking . Dismissing Gondor as an irrelevance ? Wait until it puts up an uncountable host of pikemen to pillage the roads around the first seaside city you take . Much fighting , incredibly much fighting .


the power of Prediction , the confidence that arises from knowing that it has happened and will happen again , that assurance that the event can be controlled only because it was controlled before has led so many to their doom before and will no doubt lead others to their own doom .

quite possible for Tolkien to know it would be 1939 with men coming home by late '18 and early '19 and the resulting baby boom . Meaning the intake for battle in 1939 could be as large as it could ever be . By 1964 Tolkien would have possibly accepted that there is rarely a limit for Human stupidity and wouldn't even care as McNamara carried on with Kennedy way and threatened WW III to the veterans of II with the hints that their sons would have it even worse if they just didn't roll over and die and accept US domination over hither and tither ... The softness of America can be measured by that their glorious victory in '64 to get the chance to fight in Vietnam was not enough to get their required boom for next big one . So , they had to outlaw the outlawing of f_rnication . Alas , the encouragement through the Pill was too effective in the "wrong" sense with the Pill working ... The Love Children -comparatively less in numbers- would have it in '89 but for the fizzling of the Soviet Union . Cheated out of his glorious victory , Bush the First had to arrange with an underling of his , this Noriega dude , to invade Panama . Where one bomb drop by the F-117 was to make sure everybody dropped dead by extensive fright ... The reign of Bush the Second has been so stupendously glorious that America had to elect Barack Hussein , instead of Jeb , son to first , brother to second , third to Bushes .

as for my predictive powers , ı was alive in '89 and concerned and missed it . It's not my fault that there were so many Marshalls of the Soviet Union , a geriatric bunch of people with so much time in the WW 2 and a concern for their grandkids . The said powers are far "better" -justifiably at about 3 or 4 on a scale of 1 to 10- when it involves things ı have lived through before . Say , you are walking down that street and hear some guy calling you . It was a thing of everybody back in the days when ı was young ; currently they tend to be Easterners . Young people coming to the city for work and they have run out of money ; they are so embrassed but not begging . They just have get through this evening , the boss will come and pick them up . Works on the expected amount of "Delikanlılık" in you ; might translate it as a mix of honour and bravery and integrity . An amount of money so that they can eat is all about it . They tend start the conversation with a handshake , an interaction between men . Lately ı never miss what will happen . They see you are not particularly convinced , they will end the conversation with a curse that the God punish you in the way He knows . A last ditch attempt to shame you into action .

and the sad thing is it's entirely possible the guy might be a real deal . And in the Central and Eastern parts of the country ı expect it's still possible for him to be given a proper lunch/dinner in a restaurant and lodgings if the hour is late . The hard environment makes it obligatory for people to help those in need , it's just Justice that those -who refuse to help- need help oneday . Quite soon in many cases . Though the proper set-up for business involves another guy some distance away , watching for police or local "trouble" , yet close enough to join in if it comes to that . Even their hailing from the East is enough motivation to agree . Though ı have been through that all ; the first time (ı saw there was nothing about being a man in that) was years and years ago . Involved two Westerner types , one with an actual chainsaw ... Was Fourteen or Sixteen , had to give quite an amount of money . And it took me a couple years to deduce it was their business actually .

honour is a valuable commodity , extensive care required when a desire exists to waste it on pittance .
 
turning out to be an exact replica of a whole bunch of previous posts , with nothing new ? Why , ı tend to average 3 or 4 times a year , this honourable guy thing with no money yet an appointment in a couple of hours time . Life is repetation . It's not that ı look anything like that one would expect "delikanlılık" from me . It's either my pathetic-ness that people expect that ı would gladly pay for a momentary moment of satisfaction and contentment that ı , too , could be a man . Or the somewhat isolated stretches of road that ı walk as sport . Don't know exactly which .


somewhere in this thread , ı have been discussing my foresight ; today it must be perceptionary stuff . Repeating it almost phrase by phrase could have been too much considering this simply aims to keep a stupid thread on the first page , even if the number of readings made it to 14 000 from 13 000 in about 2 months without any new posts . Now that ı don't have a Palantir or even a crystal ball , ı have to watch and read the glorious work of the smarties ... Of which the latest edition of the Wednesday Night Enlightment kinda broke my heart . You know them , the glorious quartet : The former Advisor to the PM / now the dean of an university , the Voice of the Counter-revolution , Prof.Dr. who-always-needs-to-be-reminded-that-Turkey-can-not-support-El-Kaide and Prof.Dr. who-hasn't-made-an-impact-yet ... Sorry for the damage to your eyes while reading through all that ; you can imagine the damage my fingers incur while writing -ı have learned to copy-paste their exalted smartinessness real quick .

anyhow . Concentrated heavily on the death sentences in Egypt . The Voice of the Counter-revolution (as befits a female) took it as her duty to remind that they were no Liberal patsies that opposed the Death Penalty on "principle" . Can't talk of hanging the opposition . Yet ... But she has already declared she is so for lethal injections for child killers . The latest episode being the case of some guy who wants to marry his cousin or cousin's daughter , didn't catch that part fully . The family refuses and he goes on . He has to take revenge . By grabbing the youngest of the 4 sisters . Possibly couldn't trick his intented bride to his car ; she was shown on TV crying for her 6 years old sibling . He travels 20 kilometers away , ties her legs , stabs her , burns her . Or tries to , burning dead bodies is a real energy intensive business . Trust her autopsy pictures to be leaked , 2000 people including relatives and neighbours have marched in protest . As if it wasn't enough for her father to be carried away from the morgue where he was taken for identification . Gotta build up public support afterall .

the tradition in Turkey for such guys is a declaration on the news that they tried to commit suicide in detention and not once but twice so that they were taken to mental facilities . So that they are shown to be regretting their acts ; prison officials can then avoid paperwork when other inmates hang him as an after-lunch exercise ...

returning to Wednesday Night Enlightment , firstly it is yet to be seen how coincidental it's for Prof.Dr. who-always-needs-to-be-reminded-that-Turkey-can-not-support-El-Kaide to be in US and deduce injections were cool and acceptable and allowable since America was doing it that way and that Americans failing to kill an inmate on the Death Row for 40 minutes and sparing that guy with the funny hair who raped and killed an 11 month old baby . God , they are still speaking after the whole TVs are full of it ...

secondly , ı was really expecting them to comment on something that they like totally avoided . Not that Prof.Dr. who-always-needs-to-be-reminded-that-Turkey-can-not-support-El-Kaide , by his own words , was in the US but failed to talk sense to some American NGO or something which declared Turkey had no press freedoms at all . Not in the sense of limits pertaining to various aspects , not at all . The only country on the European continent ; must be a real achievement ... It was rather the lack of anything on the commentary by the German President on an official visit to Turkey . Apparently a scathing description of the events , which the Turkish President softly cooled down . He is an expert in this . When visiting Denmark , some Turkish journalist -and ı wouldn't be surprised at all that if she was of the Congregation- asked the President his opinions on the PM's everyday remarks that the Congregation was a parasite and a virus to be destroyed . The Danish PM , a nice face by the description of the world media , was like totally explosive when the Turkish President tried to do a George Clooney smile on her , to get her to smile at the Congregation propaganda ... Not that ı do care one bit about the European rhetoric that they are so enlightened and they teach Respect and stuff to barbarians ; but the standarts in Turkey are such that it becomes real hard for even Danes to tell us how good the standarts in Turkey are .

if the sentence makes no sense in Danish , this guy who says the he's the Secretary General of NATO is still going around . Engineering a caricature crisis , engineering a forcing of his selection down the throat crisis and he is not yet kicked out , but will retire in August anyhow ? And people are so wondering about this general apathy ?

returning to Wednesday Night Enlightment once again , ı was so curious about what they would say about the PM's comments on the German President which included that the German was once a priest . Hence religious animosity against the most glorious Islamic success story ever ... Ah , the professors must have deduced anybody wanting to learn "Turkish" are watching their programme ; possibly didn't want to lose their image by nodding their heads ; some guys still have to talk to Americans to convince them that the plan is going on like clockwork and Turkey will clear the map for America . Americans being stupid and not knowing anything about anything .

indeed ...
 
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