Final National and World Wonders
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I found something very cool: Paved roads.
I will look into making this a terrain in between roads and railroads. Your roads will change once you build the national highway system wonder. This should be doable, but it may not be, we may have to just let a tech do the upgrade.
This way, we can make railroads more expensive, and not necessarily ubiquitous in developed nations.
Edit: appears this is already in the BUG mod, so we likely already have it. I will look into separating it from unpaved roads, to represent the difference between developed and undeveloped countries.
I will look into making this a terrain in between roads and railroads. Your roads will change once you build the national highway system wonder. This should be doable, but it may not be, we may have to just let a tech do the upgrade.
This way, we can make railroads more expensive, and not necessarily ubiquitous in developed nations.
Edit: appears this is already in the BUG mod, so we likely already have it. I will look into separating it from unpaved roads, to represent the difference between developed and undeveloped countries.
MasterOfDomain
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I thought we hadn't missed future national wonders, but admitedly this topic is rather large. I'll start considering some.
ianinsane
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Did some thinking about wonders again. Of all those wonders that we're gonna include from the main game a lot now only have touristic relevance. They should only boost a city's commerce and culture. Nevertheless their impact on great people birth should stay the same representing the inspiration the Pyramids can be to an engineer or the Sistine Chapel can be to an artist.
The wonders that have only touristic relevance are (including stats):
Wonders that IMO should keep their stats from the original game are
I'm not sure right now for which ones of the other wonders we have stats alreade, since there are some that I think only have touristic relevance, too.
These are:
Of course I included all the wonders that have a religious meaning into this touristic list, since we leave classic religion out of our mod.
The wonders that have only touristic relevance are (including stats):
Spoiler :
Wonders that IMO should keep their stats from the original game are
Spoiler :
I'm not sure right now for which ones of the other wonders we have stats alreade, since there are some that I think only have touristic relevance, too.
These are:
Spoiler :
Of course I included all the wonders that have a religious meaning into this touristic list, since we leave classic religion out of our mod.
Thanks ianinsane.
National wonders we don't really need any more of, it is future world wonders that we still need. Tech tree is here for reference.
So far all we have:
Sustainable Car Factory.
Requires "The Electric Car" tech, which has I think been renamed.
Provides 15 "Zero Emission Car" resources.
Cure for Cancer.
someone help me think of bonuses, I am terrible at that.
That's all I can think of offhand, others may have been suggested that I am forgetting.
Other general ideas, hopefully others can expand on;
-One similar to sustainable car factory for Sustainable Mass Transport (renamed from electric). This tech is supposed to represent sustainable air, sea, and truck transport. We could have multiple wonders for this (or any).
-We should probably find some construction projects that have been conceived of, or think of our own, for advanced construction. Looking at the tree, this comes pretty late in the game. Maybe we should move it back, or split it into two.
I will try to think about more later, I'm sure I'm forgetting some. I can't wait to hear your ideas guys, I'd say we could use up to 10 or 15 more, if we can think of them. Remember, just nothing too futuristic.
National wonders we don't really need any more of, it is future world wonders that we still need. Tech tree is here for reference.
So far all we have:
Sustainable Car Factory.
Requires "The Electric Car" tech, which has I think been renamed.
Provides 15 "Zero Emission Car" resources.
Cure for Cancer.
someone help me think of bonuses, I am terrible at that.
That's all I can think of offhand, others may have been suggested that I am forgetting.
Other general ideas, hopefully others can expand on;
-One similar to sustainable car factory for Sustainable Mass Transport (renamed from electric). This tech is supposed to represent sustainable air, sea, and truck transport. We could have multiple wonders for this (or any).
-We should probably find some construction projects that have been conceived of, or think of our own, for advanced construction. Looking at the tree, this comes pretty late in the game. Maybe we should move it back, or split it into two.
I will try to think about more later, I'm sure I'm forgetting some. I can't wait to hear your ideas guys, I'd say we could use up to 10 or 15 more, if we can think of them. Remember, just nothing too futuristic.
MasterOfDomain
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I agree Joe, however I think +1 Diplomacy from all leaders would reflect the worldwide elation.
With regards to future World Wonders:
Transoceanic Maglev Train
+ 1 Free Specialist in all cities on the continent
+ 100% gold in this city
(This is a perfectly feasible technology, but it will require a lot of investment. I'm wondering whether we can then have 'Maglev Stations' and that countries with diplomatic agreements can use these to send units across the oceans.)
With regards to future World Wonders:
Transoceanic Maglev Train
+ 1 Free Specialist in all cities on the continent
+ 100% gold in this city
(This is a perfectly feasible technology, but it will require a lot of investment. I'm wondering whether we can then have 'Maglev Stations' and that countries with diplomatic agreements can use these to send units across the oceans.)
Maglev has been discussed in this thread, I'm trying to do something more with it than a wonder. But thanks! Keep the ideas coming.
We will probably not do transoceanic. We are trying to include only things the AI understands how to use. I guess we could just make these a second airport, but what's the point? Think simple.
We will probably not do transoceanic. We are trying to include only things the AI understands how to use. I guess we could just make these a second airport, but what's the point? Think simple.
What do you mean? The one diplo point is because I believe that if any country in the world was able to create a Mile High Tower, most leaders would feel congratulatory and proud for the leader of that country.perhaps +1 commerce would be better?
After all, do you think the president of iran gives a rats arse about who has the biggest tower, likewise why would Gordon Brown, of Silvio Belescunni (sp) be more ameeable in negotions?
Obama: So you see, this is a very good deal for all of us.
Brown: I dont know, I think your gonna hve to do better.
Whitehouse Aid: Mr President, Chicago has just completed the mile high tower!
Obama: Excellent, now will you except Mr Brown?
Brown: Oh how could I ever have doubted your sincerity in this deal, the american people awe us and make us all porud to be citizens of earth through this wonderour achievement. USA! USA! USA!
Maybe abit ott but can you see why commerce or an extra trade route would be better?
After all, do you think the president of iran gives a rats arse about who has the biggest tower, likewise why would Gordon Brown, of Silvio Belescunni (sp) be more ameeable in negotions?
Obama: So you see, this is a very good deal for all of us.
Brown: I dont know, I think your gonna hve to do better.
Whitehouse Aid: Mr President, Chicago has just completed the mile high tower!
Obama: Excellent, now will you except Mr Brown?
Brown: Oh how could I ever have doubted your sincerity in this deal, the american people awe us and make us all porud to be citizens of earth through this wonderour achievement. USA! USA! USA!
Maybe abit ott but can you see why commerce or an extra trade route would be better?
ianinsane
Prince
How about this:
One Laptop per Child
Project
+ 2 free scientists
+10%
at each university
requires Tech Quantum Computing
One Laptop per Child
Project
+ 2 free scientists
+10%
at each universityrequires Tech Quantum Computing
That is true... I was just thinking about the magnitude of the project. Plus, I want to make some of these future projects a little different from the already placed/currently building projects. All of them either give trade routes or gold bonuses er sumthin similar. Maybe instead of an extra trade route or diplo bonus, maybe war weariness. Because the enemy would get kinda weary fighting a country in which the citezens in the army are proud and willing to give their lives for their country after knowing what their country is able to acomplish (A Mile High Tower is a huge accomplishment, to put that into perspective, thats basically saying if built in Chicago, from the top of it, if you went straight west you would the height of the streets in Denver). Maybe +50% War Weariness would be more realistic.
Oh yeah, the One Laptop per Child is a great idea!
MasterOfDomain
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I meant for the Curing of all Cancers. I'm sure it'd be appreciated more than a really big building to be honest (so I think it should have the +1 Diplo Point instead).
I meant for the Curing of all Cancers. I'm sure it'd be appreciated more than a really big building to be honest (so I think it should have the +1 Diplo Point instead).
Hmmm... yah, we could switch it around. So it would look like this:
Cure for Cancer
- +3 Health in all cities
- +1 Happiness in all Cities
- +1 Population in all Cities
- +1 diplo point for all leaders
The Illinois (or Mile High Tower)
- +50% Gold in the city
- +50% War Weariness (in civs its fighting against of course
)Existing world wonders are added, I'm just working on our future ones now.
Sorry guys, but I don't think we can have buildings increase diplomatic relationships. I can't find any tags that do this.
So unless someone can find a building that does this in another mod, we are going to have to change those bonuses. :-(
Sorry guys, but I don't think we can have buildings increase diplomatic relationships. I can't find any tags that do this.
So unless someone can find a building that does this in another mod, we are going to have to change those bonuses. :-(
ianinsane
Prince
What about a modern version of the Chinese Wall? It might be a National Wonder rather than a World Wonder. Israel should be building one (The Israeli West Bank barrier) and USA, too (the fence at the Mexican border).
Border Barrier (?)
prevents terrorists and immigrants (if we'll eventually have them) from entering borders
+1
in each city
-1 relations with neighbouring civs
Border Barrier (?)
prevents terrorists and immigrants (if we'll eventually have them) from entering borders
+1
in each city-1 relations with neighbouring civs
Personally i would recommend to rename some of the national wonders to make them less civ specific (of course you dont nees to do this). Here are all of them:
Mount Rushmore -> Historical Monument
Wall Street -> Stock exchange (If the english has the same UB, rename it to Bank of England)
Oxford University -> National Science University (or something like that)
That's all.
PS
Also i would recommend this (beneath) as a world wonder of some kind
Svalbard Global Seed Vault
I also have a Quote for this (if you want to have quote with it):
"This place is abondoned by God and ought to have been abondoned by mankind as well" - Unknown person about Svalbard
). Here are all of them:Mount Rushmore -> Historical Monument
Wall Street -> Stock exchange (If the english has the same UB, rename it to Bank of England)
Oxford University -> National Science University (or something like that)
That's all.
PS
Also i would recommend this (beneath) as a world wonder of some kind
Svalbard Global Seed Vault
I also have a Quote for this (if you want to have quote with it):
"This place is abondoned by God and ought to have been abondoned by mankind as well" - Unknown person about Svalbard
