Civics

sounds good but i don't know what happens if you use slavery cause iv'e never used it X). Anyway if immigration, the nationatility should change a little then.
 
What's the difference between parliamentary and congressional?

Congressional could be changed to Republican. No, not as as in the American political party, but as in just a government based around representation. Or, Representative Democracy. It's still is a little ambiguous, but maybe it works.
 
To clear up the matter of republican not being a political party why don't you say Republic instead?

For revolutions could you set up base civics for each country/leader. Then if that country/leader goes to that civic then later goes to another one the people have a chance of revolting every turn that the civic is not that 'base' one. Increasing of course with each turn to a certain maximum amount.

New poster to this area, and in general new despite my age as I haven't found much to post about plus being off for a large span of time.
 
I touched on this in the Europe Thread. However, it also deserves (IMO) a mention here.

Globalization Civics: This category determines a nation's relationship economically to nations around it.

Limited-Entry: Any Civilization following this Civic would have a standard trade route system.
Open Market: Any Civilization following this Civic has one extra trade route in all cities.
European Union: Any Civilization following this Civic has two extra trade routes in each city, limited to cities within Civilizations following this Civic*
MERCOSUR: See above
NAFTA: See above
ASEAN: See above
African Union (?): See above

*The UK and European Union would begin with this civic. Thus, each city would have 2 extra trade routes, but the trade routes would only go to cities within the European Union and UK.
 
How will you determine what a leader's title is in correspondence to each government civic?

For example, in Civ4, the Representation civic gives the title of Prime Minister to the leader. "We love the Prime Minister Day"....

I found it a tad annoying in some scenarios as the U.K, when I had to change civic to survive, and I started getting "We Love the President Day". The U.K probably will never ever become a republic, so it just kinda puts me off.
 
I think that leaders shall not hav only 1 favorite Civic but all of the categories, and if we can make the thing about leaders change sometimes (as dscribed by amogos in leader thread) then they're fav civics change, but most likely when the leader in democratic Civs change it's most likely to still be the same democracy civic choice as it had before. If the civic change to the one that is equal to police state there is a high chance of a national rebellion in the country.
 
Replace Free Religion with Human Rights. Which are we going for, by the way? Religion or Society?
 
I want some changes to the game:

Under Labor:

Forced Labor

Extreme Slavery

Prisoner Labor

Under Economic:

Growing Economy
(when economy is doing starting to expand- defaults to it)

Depression
(when economy is starting to do badly- defaults to it)

Thriving Economy
(when economy is doing great-defaults to it)

Government Economy
(when government has control over businesses)

Under Religious:
Atheist

Polytheism

Worship a god

Ecclesiastical

Theocracy

In the Religion section:

Baha'i - Founded by Mirza Husayn-Ali (known as Baha'u'llah) in Iran in 1852, Baha'i faith emphasizes monotheism and believes in one eternal transcendent God. Its guiding focus is to encourage the unity of all peoples on the earth so that justice and peace may be achieved on earth. Baha'i revelation contends the prophets of major world religions reflect some truth or element of the divine, believes all were manifestations of God given to specific communities in specific times, and that Baha'u'llah is an additional prophet meant to call all humankind. Bahais are an open community, located worldwide, with the greatest concentration of believers in South Asia.

Theravada Buddhism: The oldest Buddhist school, Theravada is practiced mostly in Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Laos, Burma, and Thailand, with minority representation elsewhere in Asia and the West. Theravadans follow the Pali Canon of Buddha's teachings, and believe that one may escape the cycle of rebirth, worldly attachment, and suffering for oneself; this process may take one or several lifetimes.

Mahayana Buddhism, including subsets Zen and Tibetan Buddhism: Forms of Mahayana Buddhism are common in East Asia and Tibet, and parts of the West. Mahayanas have additional scriptures beyond the Pali Canon and believe the Buddha is eternal and still teaching. Unlike Theravada Buddhism, Mahayana schools maintain the Buddha-nature is present in all beings and all will ultimately achieve enlightenment.

Mormonism (including the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints): Originating in 1830 in the United States under Joseph Smith, Mormonism is not characterized as a form of Protestant Christianity because it claims additional revealed Christian scriptures after the Hebrew Bible and New Testament. The Book of Mormon maintains there was an appearance of Jesus in the New World following the Christian account of his resurrection, and that the Americas are uniquely blessed continents. Mormonism believes earlier Christian traditions, such as the Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant reform faiths, are apostasies and that Joseph Smith's revelation of the Book of Mormon is a restoration of true Christianity. Mormons have a hierarchical religious leadership structure, and actively proselytize their faith; they are located primarily in the Americas and in a number of other Western countries.

Orthodox Christianity: The oldest established eastern form of Christianity, the Holy Orthodox Church, has a ceremonial head in the Bishop of Constantinople (Istanbul), also known as a Patriarch, but its various regional forms (e.g., Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Serbian Orthodox, Ukrainian Orthodox) are autocephalous (independent of Constantinople's authority, and have their own Patriarchs). Orthodox churches are highly nationalist and ethnic. The Orthodox Christian faith shares many theological tenets with the Roman Catholic Church, but diverges on some key premises and does not recognize the governing authority of the Pope.

Protestant Christianity: Protestant Christianity originated in the 16th century as an attempt to reform Roman Catholicism's practices, dogma, and theology. It encompasses several forms or denominations which are extremely varied in structure, beliefs, relationship to state, clergy, and governance. Many protestant theologies emphasize the primary role of scripture in their faith, advocating individual interpretation of Christian texts without the mediation of a final religious authority such as the Roman Pope. The oldest Protestant Christianities include Lutheranism, Calvinism (Presbyterians), and Anglican Christianity (Episcopalians), which have established liturgies, governing structure, and formal clergy. Other variants on Protestant Christianity, including Pentecostal movements and independent churches, may lack one or more of these elements, and their leadership and beliefs are individualized and dynamic.

Sunni Islam accounts for over 75% of the world's Muslim population. It recognizes the Abu Bakr as the first caliph after Muhammad. Sunni has four schools of Islamic doctrine and law - Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, and Hanbali - which uniquely interpret the Hadith, or recorded oral traditions of Muhammad. A Sunni Muslim may elect to follow any one of these schools, as all are considered equally valid.

Shia Islam represents 10-20% of Muslims worldwide, and its distinguishing feature is its reverence for Ali as an infallible, divinely inspired leader, and as the first Imam of the Muslim community after Muhammad. A majority of Shia are known as "Twelvers," because they believe that the 11 familial successor imams after Muhammad culminate in a 12th Imam (al-Mahdi) who is hidden in the world and will reappear at its end to redeem the righteous.
Variants

Ismaili faith: A sect of Shia Islam, its adherents are also known as "Seveners," because they believe that the rightful seventh Imam in Islamic leadership was Isma'il, the elder son of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq. Ismaili tradition awaits the return of the seventh Imam as the Mahdi, or Islamic messianic figure. Ismailis are located in various parts of the world, particularly South Asia and the Levant.
Alawi faith: Another Shia sect of Islam, the name reflects followers' devotion to the religious authority of Ali. Alawites are a closed, secretive religious group who assert they are Shia Muslims, although outside scholars speculate their beliefs may have a syncretic mix with other faiths originating in the Middle East. Alawis live mostly in Syria, Lebanon, and Turkey.

Druze faith: A highly secretive tradition and a closed community that derives from the Ismaili sect of Islam; its core beliefs are thought to emphasize a combination of Gnostic principles believing that the Fatimid caliph, al-Hakin, is the one who embodies the key aspects of goodness of the universe, which are, the intellect, the word, the soul, the preceder, and the follower. The Druze have a key presence in Syria, Lebanon, and Israel.

Jainism - Originating in India, Jain spiritual philosophy believes in an eternal human soul, the eternal universe, and a principle of "the own nature of things." It emphasizes compassion for all living things, seeks liberation of the human soul from reincarnation through enlightenment, and values personal responsibility due to the belief in the immediate consequences of one's behavior. Jain philosophy teaches non-violence and prescribes vegetarianism for monks and laity alike; its adherents are a highly influential religious minority in Indian society.

Shintoism - A native animist tradition of Japan, Shinto practice is based upon the premise that every being and object has its own spirit or kami. Shinto practitioners worship several particular kamis, including the kamis of nature, and families often have shrines to their ancestors' kamis. Shintoism has no fixed tradition of prayers or prescribed dogma, but is characterized by individual ritual. Respect for the kamis in nature is a key Shinto value. Prior to the end of World War II, Shinto was the state religion of Japan, and bolstered the cult of the Japanese emperor.

Sikhism - Founded by the Guru Nanak (born 1469), Sikhism believes in a non-anthropomorphic, supreme, eternal, creator God; centering one's devotion to God is seen as a means of escaping the cycle of rebirth. Sikhs follow the teachings of Nanak and nine subsequent gurus. Their scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib - also known as the Adi Granth - is considered the living Guru, or final authority of Sikh faith and theology. Sikhism emphasizes equality of humankind and disavows caste, class, or gender discrimination.

Zoroastrianism - Originating from the teachings of Zoroaster in about the 9th or 10th century B.C., Zoroastrianism may be the oldest continuing creedal religion. Its key beliefs center on a transcendent creator God, Ahura Mazda, and the concept of free will. The key ethical tenets of Zoroastrianism expressed in its scripture, the Avesta, are based on a dualistic worldview where one may prevent chaos if one chooses to serve God and exercises good thoughts, good words, and good deeds. Zoroastrianism is generally a closed religion and members are almost always born to Zoroastrian parents. Prior to the spread of Islam, Zoroastrianism dominated greater Iran. Today, though a minority, Zoroastrians remain primarily in Iran, India, and Pakistan.

From Cia World Factbook:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/docs/notesanddefs.html#2122
 
Really, Jell, that's too much for one mod, and it's hardly relevent to the scope of this one. Collective Labor is similar to Forced and Prison Labor in a way, and the Deregulated Civic is related to growing economies, but for much of the rest of the civics, like Slavery, they are more things that fit in the context of history, whereas this mod focuses on the modern era, necessitating changes.

The modern world almost-unanimously frowns on such things as slavery and genocide, so countries that still possess such vices will be added to the Barbarian state, a necessary move because there aren't any barabarians left in the world in the traditional sense. Possibly we could add Depression, and make the Deregulated and Corporatist Civics trigger events where you need to police the market or risk sliding into it, but I personally do not know how to add that.

As with your civic suggestions, likewise with religion. Again, true religions aren't a big enough part of world affairs anymore to be very influential in such things as starting wars, especially not the ones you proposed adding, most of which aren't even professed to by the majority of any country's population, making them hardly influential in world affairs. It has long-since been decided to replace religion with ideaologies. I don't know about relevent civics.

I'm not sure where that's controlled, but I'm sure a nifty coder could change it so that the UK always has a PM unless event X happens or something.

The default cause is the "We love the king" tag in the Government Civics. I do not know how to change it to anther source, however.
 
Really, Jell, that's too much for one mod, and it's hardly relevent to the scope of this one. Collective Labor is similar to Forced and Prison Labor in a way, and the Deregulated Civic is related to growing economies, but for much of the rest of the civics, like Slavery, they are more things that fit in the context of history, whereas this mod focuses on the modern era, necessitating changes.

The modern world almost-unanimously frowns on such things as slavery and genocide, so countries that still possess such vices will be added to the Barbarian state, a necessary move because there aren't any barabarians left in the world in the traditional sense. Possibly we could add Depression, and make the Deregulated and Corporatist Civics trigger events where you need to police the market or risk sliding into it, but I personally do not know how to add that.

As with your civic suggestions, likewise with religion. Again, true religions aren't a big enough part of world affairs anymore to be very influential in such things as starting wars, especially not the ones you proposed adding, most of which aren't even professed to by the majority of any country's population, making them hardly influential in world affairs. It has long-since been decided to replace religion with ideaologies. I don't know about relevent civics.



The default cause is the "We love the king" tag in the Government Civics. I do not know how to change it to anther source, however.

I agree with your ideas. Thank you for your considerations.
 
Here I am again!

Okay, the remaining Civic category (unless we add more) is religion. I was thinking of replacing it with Media, because that is more relevent to the modern situation of state ideologies. If I did do media Civics, some things might change in the others.

I meanwhile have already made one change--I have changed the differences in corporate upkeep back to 25%, as they were in the main game. I am also planning to give more Civics the option of hurrying production by paying money. Stay tuned for more on the religion category.

Edit: I also have some "Legal" Civics in progress. So far they are Darwinism (the default; avoid if possible), Confederacy (reduced maintenance from distance and greater worker speed and cottage-to-town progress, but less money and culture), and Isolationism (Experience to military units in cities with state ideology, no non-state ideology spread, less culture, happy from military units). What else do you think I should add?
 
internationalism +1 forein relations?

would be good for EU Countries
 
this was my idea for civics, for what it's worth:


Government
Parliamentary democracy
Presidential republic
Military junta
Religious theocracy
Anarachism

Economic System
Free Market
State Capitalism
21st Century Socialism
Communism
Kleptocracy

Media
Corporate
State run
Independent
State censored

Tax System
Capital Gains only
Progressive Tax
Flat Tax
Regressive tax
Tax free


Population Control
Totalitarian
Police State
Constitutional
Libertarian
 
Well, the Parliamentary and presidential republic are there, under slightly different names, in my plans. Totalitarian government essentially corresponds to the Theocracy civic, because religion has largely been replaced by ideology, and all totalitarian countries develop some state ideology, even if it's only accidentally. There are no government civics purely representative of Force-of-Arms or Anarchy, though, because those are reserved for failed states.

Economically, I also think my ideas correspond to yours for the most-part. Media, as I said, is a good idea. Taxes and population control are a bit too fringy for my tastes.
 
Great list!!!

One little question: what exactly do you mean with "21st Century Socialism"?? Do you mean socialism like Venezuela does practice it or a social market economy like Germany's????????

greets
 
Great list!!!

One little question: what exactly do you mean with "21st Century Socialism"?? Do you mean socialism like Venezuela does practice it or a social market economy like Germany's????????

greets


Like Venezuela. I figured that state capitalism would be the Germany style system. That isn't the list though, I just posted it to help give Bahmo ideas. I think he's pretty much got it figured out.
 
@Skell Jell- what's "Extreme Slavery"?

@Bahmo- I think that, since its the "modern" world, Media should replace religion in the civics category. Most countries run free religion nowadays anyway (and unless their favorite civic is religious, the AI usually switches to Free Religion when available).

MEDIA CIVICS-
-Deregulation
-Free Speech
-Controlled Media
-State Monopoly
-?

This mod is looking good, I would play it.
 
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