Why were the Irish treated so badly during the 1800s in America?

The Irish were the dredge of Europe. But the main thing why they were hated in America was because they were Catholic. English, Scottish, German all had one thing in common. They were all Protestant. Even today......To voice your a Catholic in Glasgow can get you beat up. In Belfast.... (Northern Ireland) the same.
 
Wow. From the dead!

All major US ethnic groups have myths about arrival, I think some of this is that kind of myth:
http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm
But being Catholic was a big part of it. Remember that social and community services were usually conducted by churches in pre-20th century Western countries, meaning that in melting pot places minorities had to change religion or segregate themselves.


Irish Catholics in America have a vibrant memory of humiliating job discrimination, which featured omnipresent signs proclaiming "Help Wanted--No Irish Need Apply!" No one has ever seen one of these NINA signs because they were extremely rare or nonexistent. The market for female household workers occasionally specified religion or nationality. Newspaper ads for women sometimes did include NINA, but Irish women nevertheless dominated the market for domestics because they provided a reliable supply of an essential service. Newspaper ads for men with NINA were exceedingly rare. The slogan was commonplace in upper class London by 1820; in 1862 in London there was a song, "No Irish Need Apply," purportedly by a maid looking for work. The song reached America and was modified to depict a man recently arrived in America who sees a NINA ad and confronts and beats up the culprit. The song was an immediate hit, and is the source of the myth. Evidence from the job market shows no significant discrimination against the Irish--on the contrary, employers eagerly sought them out. Some Americans feared the Irish because of their religion, their use of violence, and their threat to democratic elections. By the Civil War these fears had subsided and there were no efforts to exclude Irish immigrants. The Irish worked in gangs in job sites they could control by force. The NINA slogan told them they had to stick together against the Protestant Enemy, in terms of jobs and politics. The NINA myth justified physical assaults, and persisted because it aided ethnic solidarity. After 1940 the solidarity faded away, yet NINA remained as a powerful memory.

Of course, not all Irish were Catholics. Only Catholic Irish were Catholics. 1/4 Irish were Protestants in 1911.
 
Pangur Bán;13926846 said:
Wow. From the dead!

All major US ethnic groups have myths about arrival, I think some of this is that kind of myth:
http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/no-irish.htm
But being Catholic was a big part of it. Remember that social and community services were usually conducted by churches in pre-20th century Western countries, meaning that in melting pot places minorities had to change religion or segregate themselves.




Of course, not all Irish were Catholics. Only Catholic Irish were Catholics. 1/4 Irish were Protestants in 1911.

On NINA signs I did recently see this in the press which seems to suggest that they were at least somewhat more common than what Jensen claims. Check out the comment section where Jensen and the girl who wrote the piece have an impromptu debate. You probably know more than me on this general topic though.
 
There were also practical reasons for discrimination.

Everybody wants good quiet lodgers or tenants. However the Irish immigrants
were very poor and as individuals could rarely afford to rent a room on their own.

This meant that if the landlord let a room purportedly for one Irishman,
there would likely be three Irish more smuggled in as necessity to pay for it.

With four or more Irish men installed there, there would typically
be more noise, more congestion with shared facilities used by
the landlord themselves or other tenants and more wear and tear.

This is often the case with housing and the poorest immigrant community.
 
It was all corrected after the Civil War, after hundreds of thousands died in the conflict, mistreating the Irish no longer made sense.
 
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