If I were you, I'd increase tariffs, keep taxes the same or you may well get a coup, and gradually and carefully disband the irregulars and some of the junks, enough to give you a bit of budget surplus to spend on economic development, while very openly publicising the rationale for doing so and earmarking the money for projects that bring specific and tangible benefits to the Greek people. You can't afford to keep such a relatively large military force in the circumstances, and there's no need for one unless you're going to attack someone, which I advise you don't.
Pre-FC/CrezNES Thread: 1836
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I suppose it is Christos' job, if he commits to such a course of action, to convince them of the necessity of the action and of why it isn't detrimental to the nations security. Otherwise it is rather risky removing the shackles from a bunch of armed men currently in the states service since if discontent is high it risks the sudden creation of an armed and potentially insurrectionary force, ergo a coup.
christos200
Never tell me the odds
That is what Otto did and a coup he got.
Grandkhan
Telvanni Master Wizard
The budget deficit is the result of extended wasteful spending by the Ottonian government! Big government has spent too long suckling upon the public teat! Greeks are taxed enough already, while government spending has driven inflation through the roof and devalued our currency! Its just like Rome!
The only way Greece can exit from looming bankruptcy is if it ends spending and taxation in its entirety, withdraws from foreign wars, and allows the free market to function as intended! Ron Paul 1836!
(not srs)
Seriously though, I think talking about what Greece should be doing is a bit premature given the NES hasn't started yet. I have a few questions for Crezth since 1830s economic history is not my strong suit.
1. How prevalent is the idea of free trade in the Smithian ideal at this point? I know at some point in the 1800s Britain started pushing for it globally because Britain would be the one to maximally benefit, but when did that start?
2. How prevalent are limited free trade agreements and customs union type arrangements? At what point historically did these become prevalent?
The only way Greece can exit from looming bankruptcy is if it ends spending and taxation in its entirety, withdraws from foreign wars, and allows the free market to function as intended! Ron Paul 1836!
(not srs)
Seriously though, I think talking about what Greece should be doing is a bit premature given the NES hasn't started yet. I have a few questions for Crezth since 1830s economic history is not my strong suit.
1. How prevalent is the idea of free trade in the Smithian ideal at this point? I know at some point in the 1800s Britain started pushing for it globally because Britain would be the one to maximally benefit, but when did that start?
2. How prevalent are limited free trade agreements and customs union type arrangements? At what point historically did these become prevalent?
You could try borrowing some money, and using it to build some factories, into which you could give your irregulars the chance of disbanding, a solution that potentially, if done right, gives you workers for your factories, balances the books, gives increased income and the means for repaying the loan, and provides employment and ensures dependence on the state for the disbanded troops. Clearly something like that would have to be diplomatically handled, very careful, and optional on the part of the individual soldiers (and subject to consultation beforehand), but it might be an idea worth considering and might kill several birds with one stone. It might be overambitious, though.
Kraznaya
Princeps
what an amazing father teaches son moment guys
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
The above convro definitely needs to be rewritten as a series of letters!
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Letters from Bavaria: A Lesson in Governance of an Unruly People
Kraznaya
Princeps
except for the part where the son saw the future and predicted his own demise
the father concluded he was crazy and had his son confined to an institution
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the father concluded he was crazy and had his son confined to an institution
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christos200
Never tell me the odds
Terrance888
Discord Reigns
Foresight, especially reasonable and cautious foresight, isn't that bad of a skill :3.
The Netherlands is still, I believe, technically at war with Belgium.christos200 said:
spryllino said:
That's trite and, well, wrong.
To wit, the Greeks want mountains of cash to splash out on a highly speculative investment to soak up a workforce of dubious economical and political reliability to be managed and implemented by a government of dubious competence and skill using funds it has vanishingly little hope of ever paying back except in the most ridiculously hand-wavey of circumstances.spryllino said:
JohannaK
Heroically Clueless
Better go to war and grant your irregulars lands in the conquered territory. That always works (?)
christos200
Never tell me the odds
I do not have money to pay for domestic spending, do you expect me to pay for a war? It will end up like the Crimean War in the 1850's, when British and French soldiers occupied Greece.
1. Classical theory is getting its feet wet: we are actually at the time just before Britain's historic free trade push (the corn laws being repealed and so forth). This is a simplification.
2. Well you have the Zollverein in Germany, a customs union of almost all of the cute little German states where Prussia gets to play papa. Nevertheless, large free trade agreements weren't awfully "common" for at least some time.
Kraznaya
Princeps
spoiler: the institution was known as greece
