@Afforess
Just to iterate about using C2C as a base: Am I to assume that C2C is exactly like AND, minus a few features? You guys seem to have tweaked a lot of things and fixed a lot of bugs. If the features you already have work better and are more stable for both the player and the AI, than in C2C. Then I'd rather use AND.
@Sogroon
"Yes, but how satisfied would you be if no one else would play your mod?"
Only when I'm done implementing the system and test it out, will I see how playable/unplayable it is. I'll probably have to make some compromises anyways. But as that cliche saying goes, it's better to reach for the stars and land on the moon than to not aim past the Earth's atmosphere. Or something like that.
"I think it could be solved by this way: If an army is outside of its culture, the game checks for connectedness the same way as it does for cities. If it is not connected (surrounded by enemies and impassable terrain) than it start to starve/runs out of fuel."
I actually got that idea from a WWII Civ 5 mod, where they stockpiled not just fuel, but material and personnel/manpower. I guess it works better in Civ 5, because there's a lot less units in play and thus a lot less checks that need to be made. But who knows, maybe I can make some automation code and automate the supply units.
"Still, you would have to teach the AI to surround enemy units."
You got a point. The biggest problem is the AI. Because these features are doable. I mentioned before that a lot of them have already been done before by other modders as mod components. But a lot of them, I'll have to check again to make sure, probably don't have AI support and as a solution just make the AI unaffected by the feature or cheat.
And I don't have the skills to teach the AI something like that really. So admittedly, if half the features only apply to the Human Player than you get only half the strategy I was talking about. Because you wouldn't be able to cut off the AI's supplies, but there still would be some strategy because you'd still have to worry about your own logistics. I still think it would be a fun challenge.
There are also some minor features that I want to add that probably only the human player will really use. For example, placing mines. I'm starting to see why that would be immersion breaking if only you could do something that the AI can't. But I think the pros out weigh the cons. The added challenge and immersion that comes with more realism, will outweigh the damage to immersion you predicted. The mod will probably work best for multiplayer (if that works) or hot-seat games tho. That way there's no problems because all the players would be Human. Imagine playing with a friend with that amount of added strategy. Much strategy. All the strategies. Yes. Indeed. Is what I'm starting to sound like... But I'll see how it goes when I do it.
"But my greatest concern is if we will ever see that as a mod? I mean that it's quite common to see someone posting 'I will do this and I want to do that...' and than disappears without anything complete.
So I advise to stop just posting about your ideas and start modding, publish it and than let's see how it works"
Don't worry, I'm not a 12 year old boy. I'll finish the mod in one form or another. The thing is I'm really busy with Uni and I won't have time to really finish it until next summer. I was doing some modding last summer, mainly just XML sub-mods. But I didn't really become this ambitious until it was too late. Bad timing I know. But I did at least have time to come up with some ideas and do some research. I wanted to fully flesh out my ideas before I actually start modding. Even tho the modding process will probably force me to change some ideas. I guess it's better to get creative first and not have technical limitations hurt your creativity. Again the reaching for the stars thing. I talked all I wanted to about my ideas. There's some details I left out. But they're not necessary here. Thanks again for the feedback. When I do publish the mod tho, I'd like your feedback again.
