I understand your point, seeing that you have created a well respected mod that takes the game further (or at least down a slightly altered path), that you would not agree that BtS and BUG are the end of the line. Thanks for pointing that out. That was not the main intent of my post, however. In essence I think we actually agree that everyone has their own preference and that the range of possibilities is a big positive. And I certainly agree that BtS is not perfect. However, I primarily wanted to point out that I have enjoyed all versions of Civ IV, starting at Vanilla. The path of exploration from there to where I am now, BtS with BUG, has been the highlight for me. I aim to try even more versions in the future, BAT, Better AI, K-Mod, and a number of others, but BtS is the basis for most, if not all, of those variations. The term "final destination" was meant merely to invoke the the journey, not rule out the value of Mods that continue on from there.