stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
sure, you can download any map you want , and just post the screenshot of the turn on which you got the win
The Deity Challenge Line-up #42 - Portugal
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Congratulation on your first DCL!
Interesting how different your game is compared to mine. I was pretty much unlimited by happiness entire game, above 60 at the maximum. I noticed how many academies you built, usually 1 is all you need unless there is special circumstances. The rest you save to bulb science near the end, for plastics or later. Also, don't be afraid to clear jungles with fresh water access for farms.
Interesting how different your game is compared to mine. I was pretty much unlimited by happiness entire game, above 60 at the maximum. I noticed how many academies you built, usually 1 is all you need unless there is special circumstances. The rest you save to bulb science near the end, for plastics or later. Also, don't be afraid to clear jungles with fresh water access for farms.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Yeah that's too many Academies tbqh.
Still, nice win, given the map
Still, nice win, given the map
Thanks for the tips, I'll try to save more GS from now, I know I have to but I find planting Academy and other GP more fun lol. This bad habit is certainly the reason why I never won Deity sub 300 except once a diplo victory where I bulbed all the way through Globalization.
mc_norris
Chieftain
First post, first DCL entry, and first Deity win as Portugal...
SV T317
SV T317
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consentient
Domination!
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I still suck at post-Plastics game. I don't understand at all how people say you can win 30 turns after plastics. I have the money to buy the parts, and save ALL the GS, but never have enough to get through to the last tech. It takes me more like 50-60 turns 
My early game means I can sometimes hit Plastics T180-190 on a good map, but after that, I fail.
My early game means I can sometimes hit Plastics T180-190 on a good map, but after that, I fail.
I still suck at post-Plastics game. I don't understand at all how people say you can win 30 turns after plastics. I have the money to buy the parts, and save ALL the GS, but never have enough to get through to the last tech. It takes me more like 50-60 turns
My early game means I can sometimes hit Plastics T180-190 on a good map, but after that, I fail.
Perhaps this is where having a 4th or even 5th expo helps. I've done a 3city tradition before but I found my bpt seemed to cap at 1000. If I had a 4th city I'd probably have it around 1200.
Or it could be lack of great scientists. Maybe this is where having more faith helps you buy more Great People.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
I still suck at post-Plastics game. I don't understand at all how people say you can win 30 turns after plastics. I have the money to buy the parts, and save ALL the GS, but never have enough to get through to the last tech. It takes me more like 50-60 turns
My early game means I can sometimes hit Plastics T180-190 on a good map, but after that, I fail.
We're facing the exact same issue, friend
even if I get plastics sub T180 which is quite possible, see Aztec DCL, I always seem at least 1-2 GS short of target. But I replied what I estimate would be the solution in the Gauntlet topic
@mc norris: congrats, a bold move to go only 2 cities
Okay, so that means a SV on turn T250. That feels like a fail to you?
consentient
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What I mean is that, all things being equal, I can get to within 10% of the effectiveness of an Acken-level player on Domination, and I'm getting better at knowing which Culture tech will be enough for a fast-ish influencing, and I've made progress with timing Diplo wins, I'm still pretty clueless with lategadme science for fast wins. Besides Poland, which was a total freak where all manner of crazy things happened to me, and was a replay with map knowledge, I've not gotten many good science wins. I want to be a lot better.
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Oh now you got me intrigued when you mentioned fast-ish influencing
Have you replayed this map for SV? If so, what was your win time? If not, would you expect SV to be faster than your Diplo win? This map has excellent players (Redaxe, GenuineRisk) only a little under T300.
consentient
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If I win, I don't replay
stormtrooper412
Peacemongering Turtlesaur
Yeah I rarely replay myself, unless a map is really really particularly good
Actually 250 should be a good benchmark for this map, which isn't too strong at all, but also not bad. Acken level players can probably get under 250. 250 is average for me on average map. Good civs/maps should be more like 220-230. Excellent plays can get earlier around 200-210, but personally I've never done as well. It is actually difficult to compare Diplo to SV win time also, due to the strong timing dependence on Diplo victory based on founding of WC via PP, and multiple ways to buy/gain votes for Diplo to increase win time.
Now I'm not a very fast warmonger, and would love to be as quick as consentient and others.
Does missing a win change that for you? Before the DCLs, I never was much interested in replaying maps, win or loose. Except for a phase where I would replay maps that I won opening Liberty and playing wide. Darn if it was not the case each time that 4-city Tradition worked better for me!
But the DCLs now really having me trying maps several times. I think a lot of it is that the maps are of much higher interest than what the RNG typically provides. People wining maps that, if I were on my own, I would have thought unwinnable -- also provides great interest as well. Thanks guys!
This new habit of mine debunks one of my prejudices though. I had anticipated more consistency when replaying the same map, but with more experience, that really does not seem to be the case. This is even though I rarely start all the way back at T0. I guess chaos theory might predict that, but it does significantly degrade the learning opportunities I thought replaying would provide me...
GenuineRisk
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Thanks, but I'm just okay and I basically only managed T289 on this map because of the observatory, good timing on Rationalism and controlled starvation at the end. My cities were puny (size 24 cap on a watery map... which is just terrible) because of bad management and tough luck on WLTKD. For some reason I also settled two GS and faith bought a GE instead of GS at the end. I originally figured that T250ish would be a strong time for this map and Sclb sort of proved that.
OzymandiasDK
Chieftain
A pretty fast win, although I felt like the pace was slow up until Education, mainly because of many hammer-starved cities. But a coastal jungle cities can really boost late game science. Sadly, AI decided to propose (and passed) arts funding on first WC, and like Sclb, I also had no spies to catch stealing my tech despite being tech leader since t110-ish, so only had 1 rank 3 spy for coups.
T78 4 city NC
T100 Education
T139 Industrialization (rush-bought factories) -> T142 Freedom ideology
T150 Scientific Theory
T179 Plastics
Religion: Sacred path for culture from all jungle tiles(!), followed by growth and pagodas.
Policies: Tradition, commerce opener, rationalism top left, then both right, 6 Freedom, then commerce to Mercantilism, and finally rationalism finisher near the end.
Wonders: Leaning tower of Pisa, Porcelain Tower, Big Ben, Statue of Liberty and Hubble.
T78 4 city NC
T100 Education
T139 Industrialization (rush-bought factories) -> T142 Freedom ideology
T150 Scientific Theory
T179 Plastics
Religion: Sacred path for culture from all jungle tiles(!), followed by growth and pagodas.
Policies: Tradition, commerce opener, rationalism top left, then both right, 6 Freedom, then commerce to Mercantilism, and finally rationalism finisher near the end.
Wonders: Leaning tower of Pisa, Porcelain Tower, Big Ben, Statue of Liberty and Hubble.
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