TheMarshmallowBear
Benelovent Chieftain of the Ursu Kingdom
Your point is irrelevant (and all points of the same type are as well): To my understanding, we are discussing about and comparing the systems them selves, and not small perks that can be easily patched and modified without making a whole new diplomacy system...
I think we've already established the fact that people are split between opinions right? So I'm just keeping the discussion alive.
And it's not as irrelevant.
I'm just saying, if Civ 5 still uses a point system, but the problem there is the lack of negative/friendly modifiers (since for some reason they use opposited, minuses for positive things and pluses for hostile things) I'm might've wrote my OP wrong because the developers hid the actual points. I'm just saying that the Diplomacy simply lacks modifiers that improve your relationship but yet they have plenty of modifiers that make it easy for the AI to hate the player. That wasn't the case on Civ 4, there were plenty of modifiers that were postive enough that kept certain AI's friendly towards you.