Dancing Hoskuld
Deity
May just be the way I traverse the tech tree but the 11 trireme quest results seem wrong since I have upgraded my harbours to ports by the time I can build triremes.
Rise of Mankind 2.9 feedback and bug reports
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BadaBing
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I spent a few hours digging around in the python trying to find a clue to the problem, but didn't get anywhere :-(
Is there any way how could I solve this problem myself? Or could you post that fixed file?
I guess, that it will take some time, until there will be whole patch..
Coming into the industrial era it's been a joyfull ride.
Not much to put my finger on.
The speed has been (surprisingly) good overall (without AND)*, even with now 30 civs (8 of them dead) on a large map, and the difficulty level (at Emperor) has been satisfying with a couple of superpowers (I'm currently nr 2) and the rise and fall of some who went for gold and glory but ended in war/revolutions. The era's (at normal speed) has been perfectly tuned to BC/AD (maybe just luck).
One of my best games so far
So my list of issues will be short
The wonders of ancient Rome/Greece (Parthenon, Circus Maximus, Olympic Games, Dyonisos) were all build in 1000AD-1300AD. Could be coincidence though, as almost all the others were built at their actual date.
I havent looked into the works of diplomacy, but maybe make it so AI's (incl AI vs AI) wont change maps unless Friendly attitude. It is far too easy to get a complete map without having to explore. I think it would speed up AI turns as well, as the Map changing takes a lot of time.
Maybe do the same (or maybe just pleased) with techtrading.
The forrests are very difficult to spot on Towns. I made a new improvement called Trade Posts (->Trade Market ->Trade Center.) that might be usefull. It gives a little more trade in the beginning but with the cost of -1 food. I'll upload it with my next Vincentz Mods update when I'm finished with the testing. It also makes it possible for workers to Build a Village with Social Contract that consumes the worker (like fishing boats) No more workers hanging around doing nothing. They'll settle down instead.
* I made another modmod that gave Supplies Promotion (+1 movement with granary). I suspect the added movement to actually speed up AI's as they can now move to their destination/doing scouting/rebase troops a lot faster. It also makes them better at defending their homeland and conducting sieges/making ambushes/doing surprise attacks etc etc. Quite a simple yet entertaining addon, and combined with the Tactics Promotion from Barracks/Garrisons it has been a pleasure attacking or being attacked by AI.
I also modified/updated the rest of my modmods. Though they are all back in the Projects/Vincentz subfolder. If it was possible to make them stay there I'd be gratefull, as it makes it soo much easier for me to update them there.
Thats all for now. (I'll be back)
edit : I know its a BUG thing, but how about changing the row of specialist to two, and making the grouping for 3 instead of 5. Would give a lot more space for the resources, plus right now there is a big empty (unused) space next to the specialists
Not much to put my finger on.
The speed has been (surprisingly) good overall (without AND)*, even with now 30 civs (8 of them dead) on a large map, and the difficulty level (at Emperor) has been satisfying with a couple of superpowers (I'm currently nr 2) and the rise and fall of some who went for gold and glory but ended in war/revolutions. The era's (at normal speed) has been perfectly tuned to BC/AD (maybe just luck).
One of my best games so far
So my list of issues will be short
The wonders of ancient Rome/Greece (Parthenon, Circus Maximus, Olympic Games, Dyonisos) were all build in 1000AD-1300AD. Could be coincidence though, as almost all the others were built at their actual date.
I havent looked into the works of diplomacy, but maybe make it so AI's (incl AI vs AI) wont change maps unless Friendly attitude. It is far too easy to get a complete map without having to explore. I think it would speed up AI turns as well, as the Map changing takes a lot of time.
Maybe do the same (or maybe just pleased) with techtrading.
The forrests are very difficult to spot on Towns. I made a new improvement called Trade Posts (->Trade Market ->Trade Center.) that might be usefull. It gives a little more trade in the beginning but with the cost of -1 food. I'll upload it with my next Vincentz Mods update when I'm finished with the testing. It also makes it possible for workers to Build a Village with Social Contract that consumes the worker (like fishing boats) No more workers hanging around doing nothing. They'll settle down instead.
* I made another modmod that gave Supplies Promotion (+1 movement with granary). I suspect the added movement to actually speed up AI's as they can now move to their destination/doing scouting/rebase troops a lot faster. It also makes them better at defending their homeland and conducting sieges/making ambushes/doing surprise attacks etc etc. Quite a simple yet entertaining addon, and combined with the Tactics Promotion from Barracks/Garrisons it has been a pleasure attacking or being attacked by AI.
I also modified/updated the rest of my modmods. Though they are all back in the Projects/Vincentz subfolder. If it was possible to make them stay there I'd be gratefull, as it makes it soo much easier for me to update them there.
Thats all for now. (I'll be back
)edit : I know its a BUG thing, but how about changing the row of specialist to two, and making the grouping for 3 instead of 5. Would give a lot more space for the resources, plus right now there is a big empty (unused) space next to the specialists
Blackangel77
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Hello zappara I have a question for the multiplayer, and while I was with my brother online games together with ki sobalt but I open a game and start coming xmlciviname always wrong, and then flying back out of the game out aufen desktop shows you what is or what I This allows Amchem goes ..? thanks for help
An issue about AI autoplay - I let AI to take control of my empire by pressing ctrl+shift+M. At some point my empire expanded too much and AI dropped research to 25-30% and there is a stack of 6 barbarian near my capital city. They do not attack my capital they just move around one tile NW then back to previous tile. The capital is defended by 4 units. AI is building another unit, when new unit is ready, AI ........ disables it! New unit do not move anywhere it is just missing next turn! I do not know why AI does it, maybe because he thinks he can not afford too many units, but right after that he builds another unit in capital again, and then kills it, and so many times in row....
It was so annoying that i decided to test the following - I loaded my game from earlier point, I researched Alphabet (by Oracle). My idea was maybe AI do not have other good option than building units, so I gave AI chance to build research when there is no other good option. But nothing changed this time, AI is still building units, and killing them next turn.
Any chance Zappara can fix it in future?
It was so annoying that i decided to test the following - I loaded my game from earlier point, I researched Alphabet (by Oracle). My idea was maybe AI do not have other good option than building units, so I gave AI chance to build research when there is no other good option. But nothing changed this time, AI is still building units, and killing them next turn.
Any chance Zappara can fix it in future?
The Exile
Tiesto Fan
I am having this exact same problem, however I did not see a response to this person's problem. Can someone assist us? A pic of the problem is on the first page of the thread, with the original post. I also have the newest AND (1.70) installed, if that affects anything.
Afforess
The White Wizard
The biological warfare lab shows up because you *can* build it; not because it is causing happiness. Counterintuitive, I know. In A New Dawn, I changed it to be more intuitive.
The "Some Improvements Are Making Us Unhappy" is from shaft mines, they cause 1 unhappiness each.
No chance I could build a biological warfare lab in 900bc!
It still happens every now and then that my capital is angrier than I expect it to be, I will try and watch to see if it is caused by shaft mines. Is there any way to stop normal mines from automatically becoming shaft mines?
I started to think it might have been something in revolutions as it seemed to happen when my empire was getting a bit unstable and I though it was trying to reflect that but was just adding random 'buildings' to show the unhappiness.....but that was just a wild guess.
It still happens every now and then that my capital is angrier than I expect it to be, I will try and watch to see if it is caused by shaft mines. Is there any way to stop normal mines from automatically becoming shaft mines?
I started to think it might have been something in revolutions as it seemed to happen when my empire was getting a bit unstable and I though it was trying to reflect that but was just adding random 'buildings' to show the unhappiness.....but that was just a wild guess.
The Exile
Tiesto Fan
Okay, let me get this straight.
Buildings that are capable of being built are being shown their possible outputs on the city screen but that's not the actual output? I don't know if it's just me, but that seems misleading. To clarify my confusion, which should I believe for the actual output, the city screen or the the city rollover pop-up on the map?
Buildings that are capable of being built are being shown their possible outputs on the city screen but that's not the actual output? I don't know if it's just me, but that seems misleading. To clarify my confusion, which should I believe for the actual output, the city screen or the the city rollover pop-up on the map?
Afforess
The White Wizard
Pillage them, and they will be normal mines, but lose 1 hammer. lol.
In RoM 2.9, yes. In A New Dawn, No. In A New Dawn, what is shown is buildings than you CAN construct (so the biological warfare lab would not appear) and the "actual" output would be listed. The list is to help you chose what to build next, not what you have already built. That's in the left pane.
Confusing? I agree.
The Exile
Tiesto Fan
Strange. Well, thank you Afforess for the insanely quick reply. I love your work, by the way.
"The Malacan Pirates are hijacking merchant ships and kidnapping sailors in Persian waters"
The Malacan Gunboats are actually harmless transports.
edit : Maybe adjust the +% to Buildings from Free Religion and Church Civics to +10% each instead of +25%.
+50% in modern times is just insane....
dbl. edit : And maybe move Despotism to Slavery Civic. Would make sense to me and give an early alternative to chiefdom that otherwise would stick until monarchy.
tripple edit : And maybe make auto spreading of religions VERY slow, and never autospread to other civs. This way the religions would be more diverse (I think). Worth a try.
The Malacan Gunboats are actually harmless transports.
edit : Maybe adjust the +% to Buildings from Free Religion and Church Civics to +10% each instead of +25%.
+50% in modern times is just insane....
dbl. edit : And maybe move Despotism to Slavery Civic. Would make sense to me and give an early alternative to chiefdom that otherwise would stick until monarchy.
tripple edit : And maybe make auto spreading of religions VERY slow, and never autospread to other civs. This way the religions would be more diverse (I think). Worth a try.
Yeah, especially since the AI doesn't seem to bother with building missionaries - granted I generally try spreading my religion of choice quite aggressively, but there have been a few games where many religions were founded by the AI and not once have I seen an AI-controlled missionary.
I think the AI build a lot of missionaries. Maybe its because I only play on Large/Huge maps, where the religions spread like the plague. The result is usually the same. Christianity and Islam are tiny, nonsignificant religions. I just wanted a little more variation in the spiritual picture I guess.
But I'll do some testing and return with the results
But I'll do some testing and return with the results
It's caused by one of BUG mod's PLE options - you'll have to change some settings there and then restart the whole mod before the changes will be in use. I think this bug is fixed in BUG's SVN version which I merged to RoM the other night - though I haven't tested this particular option yet.
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