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The vassaled Netherlands spawn would be quite nice if it can be done with scripted independence in 1568.
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The vassaled Netherlands spawn would be quite nice if it can be done with scripted independence in 1568.
MontcalmXVI
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Yeah, pretty much.
Although I think Leoreth toned down Mali's inclination to vassalize ages ago (they used to vassalize on Pleased, iirc, as was the Mansa Musa in BTS). They now vassalize in only about 10% of the game I play. Usually when I roll an American start Mali is independent and doing well.
I mean when I play as Russia, my foreign policies are more like the historical Netherlands and England. That's unrealistic.
Conversely, when TD play as China, his foreign policies are more like the historical Rome and Ottomans. That too, is unrealistic.
Unrealistic strategies should lead to unrealistic results, IMO.
Thanks! That would make the game much more enjoyable for me.
strijder20
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I happen to know something about the subject, and actually the Netherlands only were a Spanish vassal for 13 years: before then they were a part of the Habsburg empire, including the HRE, Spain and parts of Italy. So actually a HRE vassal would be more fitting (not to mind that the current leaderhead for the HRE in that time period, Charles V, wanted to make the Netherlands the center of his empire and that it was only when his son Philips got to power that relations soured).
Many thanks to Leoreth for a great mod:
Quick question (and I hope this is in the right place) - does the current requirement for Russian to have a railroad from Moscow to a Siberian port imply that the Russian player has to found Moscow or is it simply the capital?
Quick question (and I hope this is in the right place) - does the current requirement for Russian to have a railroad from Moscow to a Siberian port imply that the Russian player has to found Moscow or is it simply the capital?
Tomorrow's Dawn
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I find it more difficult to capitulate civs in a war now; I'm not sure if it's either that my war successes are low, even though I rip through cities or just some increased AI reluctance to vassalize overall, but the only vassals I've been able to get lately are the weak ones. Since you asked about civs and their vassalization inclinations anyway.
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That's too bad. I get why some UHV's require particular capitals, when a big part of the challenge is managing a particular location. This UHV doesn't strike me as one of those. Certainly having a railroad in the Moscow tile, if one doesn't want to have that particular city, should be enough.
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What was the inspiration in choosing Francis I to be a leader for HRE and not his wife, for example? True, Maria Theresa became HREmpress by marriage, but in late days of HRE (close and after the Prussian spawn) HRE acts as a Austria anyway. Francis was unremarkable leader by any standards, he gave up his position as a head of the army, was complaining that he was a guest at Vienna court and overall was overshadowed by his wife. We don't have that many female leaders, so why loose this opportunity?
Tomorrow's Dawn
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I also have to mention that from what I've observed, civs are very reluctant to vassalize now,
even when under siege. Even if you have good relations with the target civ and have a high power rating and no wars, they'll still stubbornly hold out.
There are a few exceptions such as England & Egypt, but everyone else can even be down to one city and they won't ask for your help.
Leoreth, can you look into it?
even when under siege. Even if you have good relations with the target civ and have a high power rating and no wars, they'll still stubbornly hold out.
There are a few exceptions such as England & Egypt, but everyone else can even be down to one city and they won't ask for your help.
Leoreth, can you look into it?
I'd love to use Maria Theresia, but unfortunately there are no appropriate graphics for her.
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Tomorrow's Dawn
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While we're on the topic of Leaderheads, Leoreth:
Cleopatra demands your attention.
Cleopatra demands your attention.
By the way.. I just roll a Prussian game.
1) Is the requirement to "control Russia" is controlling all of tiles in tNormal Areas for Russia or what? I don't understand the code; yet I think if so, isn't it too big to control up to Magnitogorsk? Why don't create the UHV to checklist if control like area of Kiev/Novgorod/Moscow only? Russia have around 14 cities atm and I have to raze all cities but Novgorod to make it checks out
2) Dutch is abusing the resources. She train 2-3 stacks of War Elephant in Amsterdam, while the only source is the under-developed city in Ivory Coast. I see when I raze Amsterdam, the capital moved to New York and still training War Elephant there.
3) Two Phytex
4) How about a new dynamic name for European civs when they no longer have capital in Europe? I drive the Spain out of Europe and got capital at Manila. I think the capital name should be changed to Republic of Philippines, No?
The same for French > Canada, England > Ireland
5) Perhaps a "William the Conqueror" event for AI England if a vassal of Viking? Once they're under Viking hand, they don't develop. Even after I collapse the Viking (Sweden) in 1800s, my Spy told me that they're still researching Paper.
6) I wish once the capital changed to Stockholm and the name dynamically changed from Viking to Sweden, the tile denomination too. And also when they collapse.. it shouldn't be "Viking civilization blablabla" anymore
1) Is the requirement to "control Russia" is controlling all of tiles in tNormal Areas for Russia or what? I don't understand the code; yet I think if so, isn't it too big to control up to Magnitogorsk? Why don't create the UHV to checklist if control like area of Kiev/Novgorod/Moscow only? Russia have around 14 cities atm and I have to raze all cities but Novgorod to make it checks out
2) Dutch is abusing the resources. She train 2-3 stacks of War Elephant in Amsterdam, while the only source is the under-developed city in Ivory Coast. I see when I raze Amsterdam, the capital moved to New York and still training War Elephant there.
3) Two Phytex
4) How about a new dynamic name for European civs when they no longer have capital in Europe? I drive the Spain out of Europe and got capital at Manila. I think the capital name should be changed to Republic of Philippines, No?
The same for French > Canada, England > Ireland5) Perhaps a "William the Conqueror" event for AI England if a vassal of Viking? Once they're under Viking hand, they don't develop. Even after I collapse the Viking (Sweden) in 1800s, my Spy told me that they're still researching Paper.
6) I wish once the capital changed to Stockholm and the name dynamically changed from Viking to Sweden, the tile denomination too. And also when they collapse.. it shouldn't be "Viking civilization blablabla" anymore
strijder20
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^Wow, Portal first in score. Don't see that much.
They apparently played very cool. They control cities in Brazil, Barbados, Yemen, Oman, Southern India, Sri Lanka, and Malacca (ceded to Thai on Congress).
Or perhaps it's because I drove Spain out of Europe and give all their cities to Portugal
Strangely though, Madrid is not founded and Spain's capital was Cartagena.
Or perhaps it's because I drove Spain out of Europe and give all their cities to Portugal
Strangely though, Madrid is not founded and Spain's capital was Cartagena.
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