Wonder Elimination Thread

Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 16
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 17
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 19
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 21
Pentagon 16
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 12

Terracotta is too little too late.

Great wall is very powerful for early wars. Lure your opponent in or capture their city, then chew them up with xbows and compound bows. Great synergies with the new GGs. The bonus culture and GE are also good. Underrated!
 
Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 18
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 17
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 20
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 22
Pentagon 14
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 12


I love the Neuschwanstein Castle's effect, specially for wide empires. It is even better combined with the honor policy tree, or if you play as India (the Mughal Forts makes you want to build it anywhere).

I would have voted on Angkor Wat (completely useless, IMHO), but as it is now eliminated, my downvote goes to the Pentagon. It comes way too late on the tech tree and ends up being a waste of hammers: if I'm THAT long in the game, I'd rather build solar/hydro/nuclear plants for the Spaceship Parts or nukes than a costly wonder that just reduces the not-so-expensive-because-at-this-point-I'm-rich upgrade costs. If it reduced unit mainentace costs, then I'd think of building it.
 
Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 18
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 15 (-2)
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 21 (+1)
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 22
Pentagon 14
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 12

I'm going to have to agree on Great Firewall - its just too late and too superfluous.

Neuschwanstein is an overlooked wonder, though, when going on lategame warmongering spree. I haven't seen the AI on Immortal build it even though they can, and the amount of happiness you can get from having castles in 17 cities (in addition to providing additional defense) is nothing to sneeze at.
 
Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 16
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 15
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 21
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 22
Pentagon 14
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 10

True values(from smallfish's post).
 
Smallfish,

Did you just downvote twice?
Edit: Or was that a correction from earlier? If so, please change color to blue.
 
Geez, how can you guys think Firewall is useless? You beeline to it, then slap it in your super-research capitol and boom, between that and the global bonus to the other cities, you've just eliminated any more tech theft. Then you get to move your capitol-defending spy to bribe another CS or whatever.
 
Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 16
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 15
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 21
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 23 +1
Pentagon 14
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 8 -2

Oracle is great for getting that added bonus from a social policy; often it just gives you the edge needed to move out in front of the pack.

Terracotta Army because, well, it's useless. Relatively little culture for the cost.
 
Smallfish,

Did you just downvote twice?
Edit: Or was that a correction from earlier? If so, please change color to blue
.
Bolded for emphasis. I'm not sure what you were doing smallfish.

Something screwy happened after Teakbois posted on page 2. He used an out of date post and it snowballed from there. Is there anyway we can not post for 5 minutes and check integritay of the pole?
 
smallfish posted only once in this thread. Should be ok.
 
Bolded for emphasis. I'm not sure what you were doing smallfish.

Something screwy happened after Teakbois posted on page 2. He used an out of date post and it snowballed from there. Is there anyway we can not post for 5 minutes and check integritay of the pole?

Yeah my bad there. I posted two downvotes, and had to re-edit five times or so. Sorry Tabarnak.:(

Tabarnak said:
smallfish posted only once in this thread. Should be ok.

No dude, I downvoted twice... both G Firewall and Terracotta. I've cancelled out the Terracotta one.

Really, really my bad.
 
Yeah my bad there. I posted two downvotes, and had to re-edit five times or so. Sorry Tabarnak.:(



No dude, I downvoted twice... both G Firewall and Terracotta. I've cancelled out the Terracotta one.

Really, really my bad.

Here is the actual values then :

Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 16
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 15
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 21
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 23
Pentagon 14
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 10

ALL CORRECTIONS SHOULD BE MADE IN BLUE FONT AND LABELED AS CORRECTIONS. IF YOU ARE CORRECTING AND UP/DOWN VOTING, THEN USE THE RED OR GREEN COLOR AND SAY YOU VOTED AND CORRECTED
 
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Thanks Tabarnak!
 
Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 16
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 15
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 21
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 22
Pentagon 15
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 10

I actually like Pentagon, because it's a huge money saver if you have a large army and especially if you did not choose Honor policy tree.
 
Tabarnak had the Oracle at 23, afedyuki has it at 22 without downgrading it...

Oracle is still 23. He forgot to down grade a wonder(-2). Please use post #52 results afedyuki.
 
This isn't my thread, but kudos to everyone for trying to stay on top of the voting!:goodjob:
 
Alhambra 21
Big Ben 22
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 16
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 15
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 21
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 23
Pentagon 14
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 22
Terracotta Army 8
 
Alhambra 21
Big Ben 23
Brandenburg Gate 20
Chichen Itza 21
CN Tower 16
Colossus 18
Cristo Redentor 20
Eiffeltower 21
Forbidden Palace 20
Great Firewall 15
Great Library 21
Great Lighthouse 20
Great Mosque of Djenne 20
Great Wall 12
Hagia Sophia 20
Himeji Castle 20
Hanging Gardens 22
Hubble 22
Kremlin 18
Leaning Tower of Pisa 21
Louvre 21
Machu Picchu 20
Neuschwanstein Castle 21
Notre Dame 20
Oracle 22
Pentagon 14
Petra 22
Porcelain Tower 21
Pyramids 22
Sistine Chapel 20
Statue of Liberty 21
Stonehenge 23
Sydney Opera House 20
Taj Mahal 21
Terracotta Army 10

big ben I like the discount to upgrading

I dont ever find the need to build the pentagon
 
Maybe we should leave those that have been zeroed (Angkor Wat) on the list as 0? That way, we can keep better track of what's been eliminated since most of us cant remember EVERY single wonder in the game.
 
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