Botwawki 2.6

The Sunshine Kingdom respectfully disagrees. Our own policies involving former raiders consists mainly of education and rehabilitation rather than punishment. This leads to them becoming just as productive members of our society as if they had been enslaved, with the added bonus that they are not resentful of this productivity. They understand very well that their lives are better now than the raider/scavenging lifestyle that their lack of education and their poverty and need forced them into. We urge all of the citizens of the wastes to embrace this lifestyle and all work together for a better future.

The Conch Thalassocracy of the Keys: Grandkhan
Leader: High Doge-President Santiago Ruiz (Charismatic)
Faction Trait: Expansionist
Karma: 0 (Neutral)
Capital: Duck Key, FL (Pre-War Community)
Structures: Water Pump/Purifier, Market, Farming Equipment (2), Fortifications, Water Purifier
Population: 930
Slaves: 20
Education: Oral
Food: 5,190 (+1,000)
Water: 4,955 (+800)
Energy: 0 (+0)
Tech Parts: 1
Scrap Parts: 75
Ammunition: 2,195
Military Equipment: 400 Low-Tech Melee Weapons, 270 1-H Guns, 340 2-H Guns, 14 Heavy Weapons, 2 Rafts, 30 Canoes, 8 Small Boats
Robots: None
Military Skill: 12

Spending
None

Orders
80 people, composed of 64 loyalist Duck Keyers and 16 Big Piners and freed slaves, armed with 40 1-H guns, 36 2-H guns, and 4 heavy weapons, with crews of 16 Duck Keyers and 4 Big Piners and freed slaves per boat, evenly distributed among four small boats, are to travel to the ruins of Saratosa on the west coast of florida, north of Venice. They are to flee at the first sign of danger and protect the vessels at all cost. Once they arrive at Saratosa they are to explore the ruins and scavenge what they can before returning home with the spoils. above all costs they are to protect the boat and ensure that it makes it home safe, though exploration and scavenging on the way back is allowed if the coast is clear and escape is possible.
-In the interests of openning up the democratic process a referendum is held on the continuation of slavery. The questions and the allocated options are as follows:

1. Should the Slave Trade, independent of Domestic Slave Ownership, be permitted in the markets of the Conch Thalassocracy?
YES or NO

2. Should the ownership of Slaves, independent of the Slave Trade in the markets, be permitted in the Conch Thalassocracy?
NO or ONLY SLAVES TAKEN IS PRISONERS FROM RAIDERS AND ENEMIES OF THE THALASSOCRACY or YES WITH NO LIMITATIONS.

All adult residents of Duck Key are permitted to vote in the referendum and violence from both sides is to be prevented by the militia.

Just stating that I'm intending on starting the update tomorrow, so get those orders in.

Question which settlement cost would the Spanish fort be?

Up to you, you could do an Urban Ruin in there, but the food collection would not be as efficient or productive as a Settlement.

thomas.berubeg said:

The Sunshine Kingdom respectfully disagrees. Our own policies involving former raiders consists mainly of education and rehabilitation rather than punishment. This leads to them becoming just as productive members of our society as if they had been enslaved, with the added bonus that they are not resentful of this productivity. They understand very well that their lives are better now than the raider/scavenging lifestyle that their lack of education and their poverty and need forced them into. We urge all of the citizens of the wastes to embrace this lifestyle and all work together for a better future.

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Both of us force the defeated peoples to serve our wills, the point is that the Federation does not hide it behind a false veil of freedom.

We educate them, and they become productive members of society, In whatever manner they wish! That is the important distinction. Some people who have gone through our education program are now farmers, merchants, trusted military personnel, adventurer/scavengers, and not a few congressmen. The point is, they are free to pursue the goals they want... even if those goals happen to be among other states and people. Once our trained psychologists and therapists have approved them, they are free to do whatever they want, so long as they follow the laws.

thomas.berubeg said:

We educate them, and they become productive members of society, In whatever manner they wish! That is the important distinction. Some people who have gone through our education program are now farmers, merchants, trusted military personnel, adventurer/scavengers, and not a few congressmen. The point is, they are free to pursue the goals they want... even if those goals happen to be among other states and people. Once our trained psychologists and therapists have approved them, they are free to do whatever they want, so long as they follow the laws.

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Well, then you do your brainwash over them? And those who are not approved? And these laws delimit their freedom to what extent? I only see adorned slaves who forget who they were and dont know who they are. At least we do not apply such punishment on them. Do not give hope in a world like this. That is cruel.

New Gulf Commonwealth: Quisani
Leader: Governor Booker T. Ryan VI (Lucky)
Faction Trait: Industrious
Karma: 0 (Neutral)
Capital: Vault 77 (Outside of Lisbon, FL; Vault)
Structures: Fortifications, Forge, Ammo Convertor, School, Radio Tower, Water Pump/Purifier (2), Farming Equipment (2)
Population: 540
Total Population: 2,020
Slaves: 0
Education: General
Food: 10,450 (+1,880)
Water: 12,340 (+2,400)
Energy: 0 (+0)
Tech Parts: 8
Scrap Parts: 2,000
Ammunition: 1,395
Military Equipment: 156 Low-Tech Melee Weapons, 60 1-H Guns, 20 2-H Guns, 30 Laser Weapons, 5 Plasma Weapons, 2 Power Armor Suits, 1 Raft, 5 Canoes
Robots: None
Military Skill: 7
Outposts:
Spoiler:

Fort Apopka (Apopka, FL; Urban Ruin)
-Structures: Fortifications (2), Market, Radio Tower
-Population: 440
-Arsenal: 100 Low-Tech Melee Weapons, 100 1-H Guns, 125 2-H Guns, 100 Laser Weapons, 4 Power Armor Suits

Leesburg (Leesburg, FL; Settlement): +300 Food, +300 Water
-Structures: Water Purifier, Fortifications (4), Farming Equipment, Jail, Market
-Population: 480
-Arsenal: 244 Low-Tech Melee Weapons, 115 1-H Guns, 40 2-H Guns, 70 Laser Weapons, 2 Power Armor Suits, 1 Howitzer

Umatilla (Umatilla, FL; Settlement): +300 Food, +400 Water
-Structures: Fortifications (2), Farming Equipment, Water Pump/Purifier
-Population: 500
-Arsenal: 100 Low-Tech Melee Weapons, 150 1-H Guns, 2 Power Armor Suits




Governor's Challenge



Governor's Challenge Solution





New Gulf Commonwealth Orders (Short)

Golden1Knight said:

Well, then you do your brainwash over them? And those who are not approved? And these laws delimit their freedom to what extent? I only see adorned slaves who forget who they were and dont know who they are. At least we do not apply such punishment on them. Do not give hope in a world like this. That is cruel.

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No one is not approved, though it may take years before one is considered able to live in civil society, before addiction to chems are kicked, before socialization . No one is brainwashed, but simply provided with housing, work, food, and an education. And most people realize that their lives, and that of their children, is simply better off. All we hear from your complaints of hypocrisy are the whinings of a people who depend on exploitation to keep their wealth, and subscribe to a false honesty to justify it to themselves.

thomas.berubeg said:

No one is not approved, though it may take years before one is considered able to live in civil society, before addiction to chems are kicked, before socialization . No one is brainwashed, but simply provided with housing, work, food, and an education. And most people realize that their lives, and that of their children, is simply better off. All we hear from your complaints of hypocrisy are the whinings of a people who depend on exploitation to keep their wealth, and subscribe to a false honesty to justify it to themselves.

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Well, I'm afraid we'll never get a common understanding. At least, we can agree to not attack the ideas and ways of life of each other, and maintain a policy of good neighborliness.

-The Federation

Leader: Headman Julie Keyes (Charismatic)


Headman’s Challenge solution:


Orders:

Golden1Knight said:

Well, I'm afraid we'll never get a common understanding. At least, we can agree to not attack the ideas and ways of life of each other, and maintain a policy of good neighborliness.

-The Federation

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The Sunshine Kingdom wishes nothing but peace and prosperity with it's neighbors, and promises not to interfere with your way of life. However, we ask that the same courtesy is extended to us. We also wish to make it very clear that we do not consider humans property, and so will not assist in the recapture of former slaves from slave owners.

Maritime Collective


Mayor Solution:

New settlement will be building in the ruin city of Panama City. The settlement will be renamed "New Panama". If there are human habit there we will ask if this is there settlement and if not then there be asked if they want to joint ours but if they are a settlement of there own will move back to our place.

Stuff transfers to New Panama:
250 Low-Tech Melee Weapons, 1 IFVs, 2,000 scrape, 20 Plasma Weapons, 50 1-H Guns, 10 2-H Guns, 20 Laser Weapons, 400 ammo, 400 food and water, Population 300, 120 fuel, 40 tech parts.

Scrape used to build up Panama:
-1000 for building ruin city
-Water Pumping and Purifying Station 400 Scrap Parts, 6 Tech Parts
-Hydroponics Farm 100 Scrap Parts, 4 Tech Parts
-Jail 300 Scrap Parts

To: Hurlberg
From Maritime Collective

Orders


Overseer's Challenge

How's the update looking?

Was slammed at work last week, and I am officially on vacation in a couple of hours, so I'd say the chances of a update before the middle of next week are pretty slim.

Ok, EQ, have fun!

I'm back from vacation, but my jump drive was damaged, so I'll be needing to get a new one before the updating is continued. At the moment, we're looking at either Friday or Monday for the complete update.

On a side note, I'll be doing NESes on CFC until the day either I or the forum itself dies.

Looking forward to the update.