Session Start (classical_hero7@hotmail.com:Group Conversation 27446): Wed Feb 07 07:02:28 2007
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[07:02] Fingolfin: good evening
[07:03] abukhir: hi !
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[07:03] classical_hero: Yeah I know that it is evening where you guys are.
[07:03] abukhir: it's the night
[07:04] Lucio: Hello Mate
[07:04] classical_hero: Well I am in Perth so it is 7 am Wednes day.
[07:04] abukhir: good morning !
[07:05] abukhir: we are happy to meet you
[07:05] abukhir: that was difficult
[07:06] classical_hero: The problem with the first attempt was I was getting a new computer when time was proposed, so now I can play civ4.
[07:07] abukhir: wonderfull !
[07:07] abukhir: single or multi ?
[07:08] classical_hero: Both. Before Civ4 would would not load.
[07:08] abukhir: hard, it ask great configuration
[07:08] abukhir: I also changed 2 month ago
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[07:09] abukhir: last member to join, normally
[07:09] Fingolfin: hi sirhill
[07:10] classical_hero: BRB I need to get some breakfast so just talk to yorselves for a few moments
[07:10] abukhir: ok
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[07:14] classical_hero: I'm back
[07:14] Sir: hello mr back !
[07:14] abukhir: good
[07:14] abukhir: feel better ?
[07:14] abukhir: ready to begin ?
[07:15] Sir: 3...
[07:15] Sir: 2...
[07:15] classical_hero: Yes I am.
[07:15] Sir: 1...
[07:15] Sir: go !
[07:16] Sir: hi what time is it in Australia ?
[07:16] abukhir: 7 o clock
[07:16] abukhir: so, we can begin with your relations with COG ?
[07:17] classical_hero: Sure
[07:17] abukhir: we met then few turns ago
[07:17] classical_hero: Excellent
[07:17] abukhir: and we don't know what to say exactly
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[07:18] abukhir: did you avanced in the negociations ,
[07:18] abukhir: *?
[07:19] classical_hero: Well I am not too sure exactly where they are because t has been a while since we have done diplo with them so we need to get back on that track.
[07:19] classical_hero: Things did get a bit slack from our team wrt to diplo, but unfortunately Real life does tend to do that
[07:20] abukhir: would it be a good ally or not ?
[07:21] classical_hero: Well only three teams can go through so you could say that all teams are potential allies and enemies at the same time, but I would say that they would be a good potential ally.
[07:23] classical_hero: I would caution against making such a decision right now because once a team finds out that three nations have made an allaince, then the rest of the nations would then no they are threatened and thus try and remove such n allaince
[07:23] abukhir: it's a good reflexion
[07:23] classical_hero: I tend to write a lot when I chat
[07:24] abukhir: we must think about that
[07:24] Fingolfin: not a problem
[07:24] abukhir: because in the same way, to be in an alliance of 4 is quiet difficult
[07:24] Fingolfin: things are clearer that way
[07:24] abukhir: because one will be evicted
[07:25] classical_hero: Well the game is still young and thus things do have to be played quitely at this stage
[07:25] classical_hero: I'm sure every team is trying to do their best to make sure that they go through to the finals
[07:25] abukhir: it's all the difficulty, to be on the good rythm
[07:26] classical_hero: Team CFC was just wondering exactly why you decided not to go on with researching Alphabet.
[07:27] abukhir: we had a long silence with you
[07:27] abukhir: problems of mail were very hard to manage
[07:27] abukhir: because we had your answers 2 months after
[07:27] abukhir: we completely understand now
[07:28] abukhir: but at this time we didn't know your position
[07:28] classical_hero: Unfortunately that was the case with most of the teams because our previous Foriegn minister was busy with University and at that Stage I was still busy with work, so unfortunately there wasn't anyone around to diplo, which is not good.
[07:28] abukhir: it's clear
[07:28] abukhir: things are now clearer
[07:28] classical_hero: Well if you guys were unsure, you could have made an enquiry, just to clear the air
[07:29] abukhir: we made it...
[07:29] abukhir: For us, we sent 3 messages without answer
[07:29] abukhir: last one was for an MSN meeting, because we waited for an answer
[07:30] classical_hero: I just need to ask a question about yo email address, because we d get lots of emails bounce back.
[07:30] classical_hero: All the emails sent get sent to every member on you team list, don't they?
[07:31] abukhir: yer
[07:31] abukhir: yes
[07:31] abukhir: so if you have returns, it doesn't mean that nobody receive it
[07:31] classical_hero: So that means that when ever there is an erro message it means that an indivual is having problem not the whole team, right?
[07:32] abukhir: exactly
[07:32] abukhir: we received all your messages
[07:32] classical_hero: I am glad about that, because it would confuse us greatly and we would thing that noone got the message, so that is a relief.
[07:32] abukhir: you just have to verify not to have a return from the major adress
[07:32] abukhir: but it works well
[07:34] classical_hero: I am wondering what is BAT researching now.
[07:35] abukhir: we are researching for iron working
[07:35] abukhir: not far from the end, now
[07:35] abukhir: but we clearly lost a long time
[07:36] abukhir: and you, what are you researching ?
[07:36] classical_hero: Animal Husbandry
[07:36] abukhir: well, we have now to find a solution
[07:37] classical_hero: We need someone to get Alphabet so that we can start Tech trading.
[07:37] classical_hero: What teams have you met so far?
[07:38] abukhir: we met GWT, GCA, COG and last EVG
[07:38] abukhir: but we didn't see their unit
[07:38] abukhir: and you ?
[07:39] classical_hero: We are missing EVG and CBR
[07:39] abukhir: for EVG, we even don't know where they are
[07:39] abukhir: we surely met a scout
[07:39] abukhir: CBR seems far from us
[07:40] abukhir: GWT is in the other side of us
[07:40] abukhir: and GCA on the north
[07:42] abukhir: we should find a solution for technologies
[07:42] abukhir: what do you know ?
[07:44] abukhir: we would like to find a good solution for tech trading
[07:45] classical_hero: From our POV, GCA is also to the North, You guys are to the West, COG is to the east and the direction of the other is uncrtain sinc e we do not exactly where they are
[07:45] classical_hero: Well first someone is in need of researching Alphabet, so will you guys be able to work on that?
[07:46] abukhir: it depends if you have writing or not
[07:46] classical_hero: We just got it the last turn
[07:46] abukhir: how much time does it need for you to reach alphabet ?
[07:50] abukhir: I have to go to bed, but Fingolfin will speak for us
[07:50] classical_hero: It will take us 22 turns to research frm the start, but add on the research for our currect tech, so that would make it 29 turns
[07:50] classical_hero: CYA.
[07:50] abukhir: cya
[07:50] abukhir: it was nice to meet you
[07:50] classical_hero: Smae here
[07:50] classical_hero: Same
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[07:52] Fingolfin: on our side, we don't have writing for the moment
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f.humblot@free.fr (E-mail Address Not Verified): salut
[07:53] classical_hero: So that would mean that you will need to get Writing and Alphabet, so how long will that take for you?
[07:53] classical_hero: Bonjour
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[07:54] Fingolfin: 32 turns+our current tech (iron working)
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f.humblot@free.fr (E-mail Address Not Verified): i make a mistake and write in the bad chat
[07:55] classical_hero: So it would be much easier for us to research Alphabet then
[07:55] Fingolfin: lol dezabillemoa
[07:55] Fingolfin: yes we think so
[07:55] classical_hero: I assume that you guys have you own chat that is without me.
[07:55] classical_hero: Nothing wrong with that.
[07:56] Fingolfin: good
[07:56] Fingolfin: it's far easier to let our flooders do so
[07:56] Fingolfin:
[07:57] classical_hero: And have one unified force talking to me.
[07:57] Fingolfin: and some of us need translations in french to understans
[07:57] Fingolfin: yes
[07:57] classical_hero: Qui.
[07:58] classical_hero: I did French when I was at school, but unfortunately most of it is forgotten now
[07:58] Lucio: I dont speak english fluently so i prefer another chat to miss bullsheets
[07:58] Fingolfin: glad to see it doesn't worry you
[07:58] classical_hero: So true
[07:58] classical_hero: C'est la vie!
[07:59] Fingolfin: oui, c'est Civ aussi !
[08:00] Fingolfin: so do you agree on the principle to go on the path to alphabet ?
[08:00] classical_hero: I knew I spelt Yes wrong in French. I forgot if it was with a 'q' or an 'o'
[08:00] Fingolfin: lol
[08:01] Fingolfin: on the other hand, we will resarch techs you don't know
[08:02] classical_hero: I will talk to my team mate about this, but I would think that they would more than likely agree, but to make it an offical agreement I will need to talk this to my team.
[08:02] Fingolfin: we understand
[08:02] classical_hero: Of course we need to com to an agreement before the fime you have researched IW, so when will you have it finished?
[08:03] Fingolfin: we'll get it in 5 turns
[08:03] Fingolfin: have you researched iron working ?
[08:03] classical_hero: So that means we have time to talk this through with CFC.
[08:04] classical_hero: Yes we have.
[08:04] Fingolfin: k
[08:04] classical_hero: So if we have an agreement, what techs will you research instead?
[08:07] Fingolfin: what would interest you ?
[08:07] Fingolfin: we can go for metal casting or monarchy for exemple
[08:10] classical_hero: Again it will depend upon what my team wants, so I will need to get back to them since I am not too sure what they want.
[08:10] Fingolfin: but perhaps you need some "basic" techs like pottery or sailing
[08:10] classical_hero: So far we have upto Writing, Iron Working and Sailing.
[08:11] classical_hero: So we will not need those techs and the ones before it.
[08:11] Fingolfin: ok
[08:11] Fingolfin: we are quite advanced on the "religious" path on our side
[08:12] classical_hero: We can see that, since you have Monotheism
[08:12] Fingolfin: yes
[08:12] Fingolfin: masonry and priesthood too
[08:15] Fingolfin: monarchy could be learnt before you get alphabet for exemple
[08:15] classical_hero: You would have founded most of the religions, wouldn't you?
[08:17] Fingolfin: we both began with mysticism with CBR
[08:19] Fingolfin: so it would have been sad to not found religions with this kind of asset
[08:21] classical_hero: Exactly.
[08:23] classical_hero: I will now go back to my team and get a discussion going on the things that have been brought up by this chat.
[08:25] Fingolfin: ok then, we hope that this meeting will strengthen our friendship
[08:26] classical_hero: CYA. ANd I hope that France does well Against Argentina to morrow.