So, the short term prospect is not famous
You mean, fabulous?
So, the short term prospect is not famous
I know this is probably the wrong forum to post it in, but does anyone else think this is the end of Civilization? I mean, Civ V was a disaster, and they haven't released any expansions or made a real effort to fix it. They might try releasing a better game later on, but is that really likely? If Civ V sells well, they'll just release another game like it, but if it doesn't, they may end the franchise entirely. I'm not sure what to think right now.
What are you talking about? Civ V is still one of the most played games on Steam.
Steam is the biggest rip off ever,,,,you pay somone to hold your copy of the "game" online...
okay what if you can't connect to internet(after moving to a new home) the internet is down( bill arrived late) or what if theres an overload(too many people on Steam)????
I'm just old fashioned,but I love the fact I have the power in the disc....
Steam is the biggest rip off ever,,,,you pay somone to hold your copy of the "game" online...
okay what if you can't connect to internet(after moving to a new home) the internet is down( bill arrived late) or what if theres an overload(too many people on Steam)????
I'm just old fashioned,but I love the fact I have the power in the disc....
Old thread is old I think that thread sums pretty well the feelings of atleast half of the civ community at the time ...
Well, the future of TBS is definitely on the hands of gamedesigners that know how to mod ( like Soren did ). We already had a ex-modder with a cool "Let's make a hybrid between Ol'civ and PG" idea designing a civ game and we got Civ V
On the Civ franchise ... well, CivWorld is definitely not a TBS in any sense of the term, Civ V is a step back in terms of AI understanding of the game it is playing ( really, even civ III AI understands it's game better and we're talking of a AI that allowed kill zones ) besides some ( sometimes not so ) subtle issues introduced by the square->hex conversion and CivRev is quite shallow for a TBS. So, the short term prospect is not famous
And you'd have to have had internet connection at some point of time in order to purchase it in the first place, so you could simply download it then. Logic fail.
What are you talking about? Civ V is still one of the most played games on Steam.
Logic fail. You ever heard about the concept of something called 'local retailer' aka. 'shop'? You just walk in, grab your packaged disk, leave your cash and then go home and play?
Believe me, it's a great and rather simple technologie which has been refined and working perfectly centuries before anyone ever knew about the internet...
Yeah and I can really see how that's relevant when talking about steam.
Logic fail. You ever heard about the concept of something called 'local retailer' aka. 'shop'? You just walk in, grab your packaged disk, leave your cash and then go home and play?
Believe me, it's a great and rather simple technologie which has been refined and working perfectly centuries before anyone ever knew about the internet...
Yeah and I can really see how that's relevant when talking about steam. Truly this revelation has opened my eyes to the fact that you don't have to purchase a game on steam by connecting to steam.
Seems like a valid point to me. Many games that can be purchased at local retailers nowadays require you to activate them on Steam to play
So the guy was rather obvioulsy comparing Steam (where "you'd have to have had internet connection at some point of time in order to purchase it") with a disc (where you DON'T). And I guess that was THE point...
Purchasing a steam game in the first place requires internet connection, so it's impossible to be ripped off in the way he claims.
Steam is the biggest rip off ever,,,,you pay somone to hold your copy of the "game" online...
Well, Kael is a quite sui generis modder ... his FfH was actually more solid standalone option than the half-baked attempt of a Colonization remake on top of Civ IV engine Firaxis sold some yers ago. In a certain way he already was a game designer when he was a modderWon't Kael and his gang be somewhere at the top of the modders list?
You pay somebody money so he withholds your copy of the game and punishes you with stupid DRM BS instead. You can't play your purchased game whenever YOU want, but whenever some server on the other side of the world allows you to. Basically. You can talk yourself into how great this is and what advantages this brings and put some candy on top of it. But in the end it's still another ridiculous copy protection scheme satisfying some distributor paranoia while punishing the honest customer. If the DRM server is down for whatever reason in two or five years time and you changed your hardware until then or whatever => no more gaming for you. In your eyes this might be a great distribution concept. In the eyes of others (me included) it's a rip off and it's a trap I won't go into. I've accepted a lot of ridiculous copy protection schemes in my 25 years of computer gaming. I won't accept online DRM in any form. If that means I can't buy any computer games any more so be it. There are other ways to spend my limited spare time...
Which btw. brings us back to topic. I followed Civ through all incarnations starting with Civ for MS-Dos, but if the company won't change it's policies, I'll stay with Civ IV...
You're wrong.