Unique Unit Elimination Thread

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 20
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 20
Carolean 21
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 22
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 21
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 18
Legion 20
Longbowman 22
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 18
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20 - It was spelt wrong
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 20
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 21
Sipahi 20
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Chariot 8
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21 Great unit, made me use lancers. Love it.
Zero 16 IMO This crap is even worse than the W. Chariot, which I like for barb-chasing.

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 20
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 20
Carolean 21
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 22
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 21
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 18
Legion 20
Longbowman 22
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 18
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 20
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 21
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Chariot 8
War Elephant 20
Sipahi: Lancers already suck, and this doesn't improve its strength at all, just lets it run around not fighting more.
Dromon: It's great because it gives you ranged naval units when nobody else does, and it can be a lot of help in early wars.

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 20
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 21
Carolean 21
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 22
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 21
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 18
Legion 20
Longbowman 22
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 18
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 21
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Chariot 8
War Elephant 20

+1 Camel Archer
The camel archer is easily the most powerful unit in the game. It's hard to lose a war with them even in the industrial era.
-2 Samurai
The samurai is a very poor unit. It is a longsword, which is just one tech from getting muskets, and it has a very small bonus, +1 extra promotion is not very valuable for a longsword unit in the medieval era.

^You guys cut the Zero and the W. Hussar

And my vote just go ignored :/
too lazy to do it again, good night

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 20
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 21
Carolean 21
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 21
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 18
Legion 20
Longbowman 22
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 21
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Chariot 6
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 16

This includes Karmah's vote, the Zero and Winged Hussar, please copy pasta correctly people

ALSO:

I'm just going to assist in putting the War Chariot out of its misery, it seems to be even more hated than the Zero, which I didn't expect, though with the nerfs to early war it make some sense, especially since it was already pretty bad when early war was strong.

I'm upboating the Chu-ko-nu because both mid game war and ranged units are stronk as fck, and the Chu-ko-nu is mid game, ranged and even stronker than normal x-bowmen. Plus because they attack twice per turn they gain double xp, synergizing with China's UA and making it easier to get +1 range. +1 range Gatling guns with free logistics, YES PLEASE SIGN ME UP SIR.

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 20
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 21
Carolean 21
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 16
Legion 20
Longbowman 22
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 21
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Chariot 6
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 16

+1 Janissary: It's an overlooked unit for an otherwise overlooked civilization that can really be a force to be reckoned with given it's +50 healing on kill, especially if you mass a bunch in reserve and then upgrade them.

-2 Landsknecht: A unique unit with practically no difference in strength, save being cheaper to make? Kinda worthless if you ask me. At least they look flashy when they move.

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 20
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 21
Carolean 21
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 16
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 21
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Chariot 4
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 16

-2 War Chariot: It needs that many circunstances to be useful that It never comes to be used efectively.

+1 Longbowman: They pass promotion. With the buff to ranged combat in BNW they are a must.

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 20
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 21
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 16
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Chariot 0
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 16
I was playing a highlands game a pachi when i was gifted the camels. The chinese cho-ko-nus didnt stand a chance. What a massacre

Just putting the chariot out of its misery. When i saw that its promotions were useless i quit my game.

Good riddance!

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 22
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 16
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 16

I understand the premise behind Atlatlists but I've never really been in a position where I've needed Archers before researching one of the cheapest technologies in the game. If I played on Emperor or above it might prove more useful, but when I'm playing on King it just seems like a bit of a waste. I'd have rather seen it just as a more powerful alternative, or maybe with some unique promotion, but that's just me.

On the other hand, I've used Caroleans in game and that free March promotion is just outstanding. They make a fantastic defensive wall for your civilization from the moment you unlock them to the end of the game, if you make enough of them before Replaceable Parts, and a party of upgraded Caroleans is great for assaults on far-away cities when there isn't time to go back and heal.

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 23
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 20
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 16
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 14

1+ Caroleans: They're just awesome. They come with one of the best promotions in the game, a promotion I always try to get my other units to acquire as well.

-2 Zero: Just not useful enough and way too situational.

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 23
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 20
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 21
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 14
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 20
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 14

Jaguar is my favourite unit. I love playing monty and farming barbs. If you keep these guys alive uou will have a UU for the rest of the game

Landsknehts (or whatever) upgrade to lancers, making them useless

African Forest Elephant 20
Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 23
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 18 Hardly ever useful. Actually, it is very bad... only in rare ocasions you'd stack them with GG. Sipahi and W. Hussar > Hakka
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 21
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 14
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 21 It gives so much gold and is not hard to spam!
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 20
Pathfinder 21
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 14

I'll try to vary my votes.

Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 20
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 23
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 18
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 21
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 14
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 21 It gives so much gold and is not hard to spam!
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 18 - maybe it's just my playstyle but I rarely use tanks in warring, it's either Battleships or Planes, and Infantry from Research Labs on land, Panzer is nice tank but unappealing for me because of the location in the tech tree
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Pathfinder 22 - this little guy is just pure win, I can see him win this competition easily, his ability can fetch you a fast Religion on Deity and is so versataile, he can really boost first turns of the game, also Advanced weaponry upgrades him to Composite Bowman which is just ridiculous and can enable some nice fast Domination wins (and he is quite capable at fighting on his own), main reason to go Pocatello really
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 14

I think once we get rid of three units we should up the downvotes to 4 at a time, as this is going rather slowly, any objections?

+2/-4 maybe?

That's sorta counter-intuitive if the goal is to speed things up. Increasing upboats will just make the end phase, where only the Chu, Keshiks, Longbowmen, etc are left, take for fcking ever.

Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 21
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 23
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 18
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 21
Janissary 22
Keshik 22
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 14
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 21
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 18
Pathfinder 22
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 12


Lets make it -3 per downvote, starting next elimination.



Battering rams are deadly extremely early, and basically garuntee an enemy capital by turn 100. If you walk a warrior into an upgrade ruin, here we go.


I've built the zero a grand total of zero times since G&K. It, and Japan in general, is that bad.

I decided to wait until the fall patch to start the civilization elimination thread because in the special Polycast episode they said they would be looking at rebalancing Japan and Germany so I thought that waiting until then might affect votes,

Anyways:
Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 21
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 23
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 18
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 21
Jaguar 21
Janissary 22
Keshik 23 After using these, you will wonder why didn't play Mongolia more often, it is possible to continue using them and taking cities with them even into the early industrial era
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 14
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 21
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 18
Pathfinder 22
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 9 I have built this a grand total of zero times, it is way to situational, because they ai rarely ever builds fighters

Atlatist 18
B17 20
Ballista 20
Battering Ram 21
Berber Cavalry 20
Berserker 20
Bowmen 20
Camel Archer 22
Carolean 23
Cataphract 20
Chu-Ko-Nu 23
Comanche Rider 20
Companion Cavalry 20
Conquistador 20
Great Galleass 20
Dromon 21
Hakkapeliitta 18
Hoplite 18
Horse Archer 20
Hussar 20
Hwach'a 20
Immortal 20
Impi 22Just pure awesomeness. Rush civil service and spam them, you can do that because they have a decent upgrade path.
Jaguar 21
Janissary 22
Keshik 23
Kris Swordsman 21
Landsknecht 12 Ok the point of this unit's special is to spam them which is fine for a little while but then you're stuck with a lot of pikemen units who's upgrade path is just rotten on top of that they don't even have a promotion to carry over to make it worth it.
Legion 20
Longbowman 23
Mandekalu Cavalry 20
Maori Warrior 20
Mehal Sefari 20
Minutemen 20
Mohawk Warrior 20
Musketeer 20
Naresuan's Elephant 20
Nau 21
Norwegian Ski Infantry 16
Panzer 18
Pathfinder 22
Pictish Warrior 20
Pracinha 20
Quinquereme 16
Samurai 18
Sea Beggar 20
Ship of the Line 20
Siege Tower 22
Sipahi 18
Slinger 18
Tercio 21
Turtle Ship 21
War Elephant 20
Winged Hussar 21
Zero 9