9 Most Wanted Civs Post BNW

I don't think Mexico is a good option, We already got Aztecs in the game, adding Mexico is like adding Great Britain out of Celts and England, Holy Roman Empire out of Germany and France, Iran out of Persia, Iraq out of Babylonia. i mean they are just the same Group of people, Just the past of it and the present. We got a lot more options. Maybe Argentinian Civ (or any Civ who settle on the Southern part of South America) could fill out the empty spot in South America.

I must stress this, contrary to popular belief, Mexico is not a continuation of the Aztec civilization. Mexico (New Spain back in the day) became a melting pot of wildly diferent cultures for centuries, Mesoamerican, Aridoamerican, European, African and Asian its all there, and has managed to turn this into its own unique culture.

Mexico is my first choice to fill that spot, there are other and I would be happy to see either Colombia or Argentina as they are also pretty good candidates. We already have culturaly similar civs, and in the case of post colonials we have both America and Brazil, taking that into account I dont see how Mexico is diferent.
 
Because Israel has loads of history as a civilization... What's their UA going to be, receives 10 nuclear missiles upon declaring friendship with America?
 
Because Israel has loads of history as a civilization... What's their UA going to be, receives 10 nuclear missiles upon declaring friendship with America?

Double religion. Jerusalem is the Holy City for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
 
I must stress this, contrary to popular belief, Mexico is not a continuation of the Aztec civilization. Mexico
Yeah, they are not the continuation of the Aztec Civilization but they are the descendant of Modern Mexicans today. The Aztec empire was been conquered before, Cities been raze, but not their people.
Why did Constantinople get the works?

That's nobody's business but the Turks!!
this is exactly what i said in some thread before, then somebody said:
" Constantinople and the Turks are not the same people, if you read the ingame Civlopedia about Ottomans, they just conquered the Byzantium Capital, Constantinople which is getting lame at that time, then rename it to Istanbul. Just like your America--> Iroquois, America-->Shoshone. IYKWIM"

Because Israel has loads of history as a civilization... What's their UA going to be, receives 10 nuclear missiles upon declaring friendship with America?
Cool! :lol:
 
Because Israel has loads of history as a civilization... What's their UA going to be, receives 10 nuclear missiles upon declaring friendship with America?

I still like my "hyper cube" Israel UA.

UA = "Diaspora", Israel is limited to founding a single city, Jerusalem, which at any point can be converted to a city-state. This disperses the population to add to the population of other civilization's cities where they act as specialists, and provide the host civilization a percentage yield. Israel doesn't have to build an army, but its population can be expelled from cities with the use of inquisitors. Upon choosing an ideology, Israel can send citizens back to Jerusalem and declare independence (effectively a DOW against any civilization currently in possession of the city-state).
 
I still like my "hyper cube" Israel UA.

I had an idea along the lines of gaining a combat bonus from great prophets, sort of like mini-great generals. Maybe also +faith while at war, and +culture while at peace. But yes, that Diaspora ability would be cool. Not sure about balance, though.
 
I'd only want to see 7, to bring it to a round 50. If we keep on trying to churn out Civ's we'll run out of City States!

I'd like to see:
  • Canada
  • Vietnam
  • Romania / Hungary
  • Israel
  • The Goths
Currently no Civs from Africa or South America, but I think Civs should be chosen based on their impact on History, not because an area of the map 'needs' filling in. Sumer, the Nazca and Kongo are others worth considering.

There's one other, "braver" suggestion I might put forward:
  • New Korea

G&K focused on the early-game; BNW focused on the mid-game; hopefully EP3 will focus on the late game. So why not invent a future Civ? :D New Korea could be led by Kim Jong V (as in the 5th), and feature music from actual N Korean propaganda songs. Just something different to hearing the same old candidates floating around!
 
Since the expansions seem to come in groups of 9 civs, what would be your picks?

Mine would be:

Australia

Canada

Hungary

Israel

Kongo

Sumeria

Switzerland

Tibet

Vietnam

Great list. I was curious about Israel as well, considering you have both David and Joshua who were well known warriors, but then it seems Civ V BNW is semi-anti war.
 
I think Israel's problem is it's just surrounded by too much controversy. If you include its ancient history, then you're basically endorsing the bible as a factual record of history instead of a compilation of religious fables.

And much of the Bible might be actual history, but there's also other stuff mixed in like Elijah calling fire down from heaven. Or Daniel's various miracles in Babylon's court.

If it were limited to modern Israel, then who would you choose as the leader? Ariel Sharon?
 
I have to agree on Israel, Firaxis canceling the Pueblo should be enough proof that they dont want unnesesary controvery, same thing with Tibet.
 
I think Israel's problem is it's just surrounded by too much controversy. If you include its ancient history, then you're basically endorsing the bible as a factual record of history instead of a compilation of religious fables.

I don't think that's the case at all. Regardless of opinions of the Bible, Civ is not a game that intends to recreate history as it happened / may have happened. Ancient Chinese history, for example, is full of legends and fables which are tightly woven into its "history", yet that is no obstacle to including them in Civ V. This more dubious area of history simply doesn't have to be addressed.

No one can deny that Israel existed as a nation thousands of years ago, and that their people retained their identity in the interim when they have had no territory. The only thing that needs to be done to make them a civ is add a UA, a UU and a UB/UU/UI. There's no reason why Israel can't 'represent' both Ancient and Modern Israel. Having said that, if you did want a modern leader, Moshe Dayan could be a pretty cool addition (even if someone like David is more appropriate).
 
I don't think Mexico is a good option, We already got Aztecs in the game, adding Mexico is like adding Great Britain out of Celts and England, Holy Roman Empire out of Germany and France, Iran out of Persia, Iraq out of Babylonia. i mean they are just the same Group of people, Just the past of it and the present. We got a lot more options. Maybe Argentinian Civ (or any Civ who settle on the Southern part of South America) could fill out the empty spot in South America.


If that were true then America would already be covered by the Iroquois and Shoshone.
 
Just adding my 2 cents. I'd like to see Romenia or Bulgaria, Hungary, Argentina, Australia, Kongo, the Timurids, the Hittites, Sumeria and... the Swahilli or something along these lines. There are many civilizations already, but I'd like to see some new faces :)

Yes, I like eastern europe
 
What would Argentina's UA be? Military Units disband at a quarter of the normal rate when the Treasury is empty?

/sarcasm
 
In my opinion, there is currently still plenty of room for new civs, as there are still plenty of 'deserving' candidates out there with the possibility of interesting new gameplay styles. It does make deciding on just 9 rather difficult though. Here are some that I think could be possible choices, or at least dark horse candidates (the boldness of the text indicates a combination of very roughly how likely/worthy I think they are of a spot):

Europe: Hungary, Bulgaria, Kievan Rus'/Ukraine, the Goths, Gaul, the Franks, Switzerland, Italy, Minoans, Serbia, Belgium, the Czech/Bohemia, Scotland, Ireland, Norway, Finland, Lithuania, Romania, Croatia, Albania, the Teutons/Suebia/Germania, the Iberians (ancient), Dacia, Etruscans.

Middle East, North Africa and West Asia: Sumeria, the Hittites, Armenia, Israel, Phoenicia, Yemen, the Indo-Greeks/Seleucids, the Khazars, Parthia, Khwarezm, Egypt (modern), Iran, Libya, Tunisia, Syria, Georgia, Aramaeans/Palmyrene Empire, Palestine/the Philistines, the Vandals, the Hurrians, Lydia, Lycia, Oman.

South and Central Asia: the Mughals, the Tamil/Chola, the Kushans, Harappa/Indus Civilization, the Scythians, Bengal, Nepal, the Kazakhs, the Timurids, the Uzbeks, Vijayanagara, Siberia/Sibir Khanate, the Hepthalites.

East and Southeast Asia: the Khmer, Vietnam, Tibet, Burma, Champa, Malaysia, the Filipinos/Philippines, the Manchu, the Uyghur, Baiyue/South China, the Ainu, the Xiongnu, the Göktürks, Laos, Nanzhao.

Australia and Oceania: Australia, the Aborigines, the Maori, New Zealand.

Africa (sub-Saharan region): the Kongo (+ Angola/Ndongo?), the Swahili, Nubia, Mali, Zimbabwe, the Yoruba, the Hausa/Fulani, South Africa, Nigeria, the Ashanti/Akan, Merina/Madagascar, Uganda, Somalia, Djolof, the Igbo, the Xhosa, Kanem-Bornu, Kenya, Tanzania, the Mossi, Luba/Lunda, Wagadou.

North America: the Inuit, the Cherokee, the Sioux, Canada, the Mississippians/Cahokia, the Pueblo, the Haida, the Apache, the Navajo, the Ojibwe/Chippewa, the Seminole, the Creek/Muscogee, the Choctaw, the Huron, the Cree, the Algonquin, the Tlingit, the Paiute, the Nez Perce/Niimiipu, the Illinois, the Cheyenne, the Crow.

Mesoamerica and the Caribbean: the Olmec, the Tarascans/Purepecha, Mexico, the Zapotec, Cuba, Haiti, the Arawak, the Mixtec, the Totonac, Jamaica, Guatemala.

South America: Argentina, Gran Colombia, the Muisca/Chibcha, the Mapuche, Chile, the Chimu/Moche, the Tupi/Guarani, the Chachapoya, Peru, the Wari (Huari), the Nazca, the Quimbaya, Ecuador.

I don't think that all of these civs will (nor should) be included, but even with just some of the more likely candidates there are plenty of good choices remaining.
 
Afghanistan
UA: Tribalism: +50% resistance to non-shared ideologies. +25% defense when adjacent to mountain tiles, city resistance doubled.
UB: Poppy farm, replaces granary. +10xp to units trained in this city, +1 happiness, in addition to granary benefits.
UU: Afghan Infantry, replaces great war infantry. 25% cheaper than GW infantry, +200% attack against helicopters and armor units.

Vietnam
UA: Tunnels: units may instantly move between cities after discovering mining (akin to an airlift).
UB: Rice farm, replaces aquaduct. +1 happiness, +1 culture, +2 food, +25% population carried over after population increase.
UU: Vietnamese Rifleman, replaces rifleman. Starts with woodsman, +25% attack in wooded/jungle tiles, grants +20 culture to vietnam when killed.


FUN STUFF. Yeah, I know the names are generic but I know enough to avoid offensive names ;)
 
There are well over a million nations, big or small, out there that could be implemented into the Civilization Series.
 
Canada
Having two different koreas. (modern korea)
Vietnam
Yugoslavia (UA may be ever 3rd city acting like a capital)
Australia

Those are 5 large ones, here's 4 city states I want.

Dubai
Azerbaijan
Taipei
San Juan
 
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