Civ V Civilizations Roster

Well, for the Sioux, they weren't really a civ; they were nomadic and had no writing, etc. I think the Iroquois are more likely.

Still the only Native American leader in BTS was a Hunkpapa Lakota Sioux war chief, so I think the Sioux are possible. Also, the Mongols were nomadic too. Anyway, you're right in that Iroquois deserve to be in the game or in one of its expansions, so I added them to my expansion list (though 14 civs makes it probably too big an expansion to be made).
 
Big name civs, and only 18? Huh, well, let's make a list.

1. Arabia
2. America
3. Aztec(WHY FIREAXIS, WHY?????? THEY'RE AS IMPORTANT AS TEOTIHUACAN AND LESS SO THAN THE MAYA, WHY????????)
4. China
5. Egypt
6. England/Britain
7. France
8. Germany
9. Greece
10. Tawantsinsuyu, the Inca Empire. Tawantsinsuyu is more appropriate, it's like calling France 'The King's Empire'
11. India
12. Mongolia
13. Ottomans
14. Persia
15. Rome
16. Russia
17. Spain
18. Zulu

That's right, I left out Japan. Being an isolated island culture is not great civilization, especially if you're in quasy-civil war the entire time. :p

Well, I think you got it mostly right, but my list is:

Europe:
Greece
Rome
England
France
Germany
Russia
Spain

East Asia:
China
India
Japan
Mongols

Middle East:
Persia
Arabia
Egypt

Africa:
Mali

The Americas:
America
Aztecs
Incas

Now, I don't necessarily agree with this, but it'll most likely be this.
 
That is true, though I think that in the Vanilla we'll just have "big name" civs like the ones they've had in previous installments. I.e. Rome, Greece, France, China, you know, not too much innovation (for better or or worse)
Mali comes to mind. Most will be but I could see a slot or two filled by lesser knowns just to mix it up.
 
My guess:

1. Americans
2. Arabs
3. Aztecs
4. Byzantines (or, maybe, the Mongols)
5. Chinese
6. Egyptians
7. English
8. French
9. Germans
10. Greek
11. Indians
12. Japanese
13. Mayans (I guessa the Incans won't make for a second appearance in a roll)
14. Persians
15. Romans
16. Russians
17. Spanish
18. Ethiopians (or Zulu, or Malinese, or Nubians)
 
Why are you guys rooting for the Byzantines? They're pretty much just Rome or Greece. They are way more more deserving civs than the Byzantines.
 
That's right, I left out Japan. Being an isolated island culture is not great civilization, especially if you're in quasy-civil war the entire time. :p

Still, having the Arabs, the Ottomans and (especially) the Zulu over Japan is something Firaxis wouldn't probably do, for reasons such as marketing.

How about the Latin Empire of Constantinople? Now that would be a real surprise civ!
 
I never really understand these conversations. I mean really, what difference does it make? They'll tell us sooner or later. What's more far more interesting to me is how the various civs PLAY not who they are, and there's not much point speculating on that.

Besides, if you ask any of us to fill out a list of 18 civs that are going to be in the game, we could all probably get 14 or 15 of them right. You're going to see the same Americans, Zulus, Mongols, Chinese, French, English, Russians etc. that we've been playing with for years now (and yes, I'm pretty sure Japan will be in there, like it or not). At most there will be 1 or 2 wild cards.
 
Not necessarily, even in your list the Mongols and Zulus may or may not be in.

EDIT: Plus speculation and gossip are fun ;)
 
For that matter, why all the "maybe Mongolia" opinions? It was the second largest empire in Earth's history (next to the British Empire's height and by a long shot the largest contiguous empire), sported a huge degree of diversity, essentially revolutionized military organization and strategy, implemented a progressive law code (for the time), and fielded one of the most notorious, feared, and skilled armies the world has ever seen.

Oh yeah they're not white. Silly me. :p
 
Well, I think you got it mostly right, but my list is:

Europe:
Greece
Rome
England
France
Germany
Russia
Spain

East Asia:
China
India
Japan
Mongols

Middle East:
Persia
Arabia
Egypt

Africa:
Mali

The Americas:
America
Aztecs
Incas

Now, I don't necessarily agree with this, but it'll most likely be this.

I doubt that Firaxis would have exactly same 18 civs in two consecutive major Civ releases (not counting Civilization Revolution).
 
Not necessarily, even in your list the Mongols and Zulus may or may not be in.

1. I said you'd get 14 or 15 of them right, not all 18.
2. I'm 90% certain both those will be in it. I'd be willing to bet money at least 1 will make it.
 
I wouldn't expect to get civs like the Celts, Vikings, Zulu and Mongols in the first game. There may be one or two of these, but the developers will see these civs as of second-tier importance, and will probably wish to use their popularity to sell expansion packs. At the same time, some civs are guaranteed. E.g. America, Russia, China, Japan, England (hopefully NOT "Britain"), Rome, Greece, Germany. These are guaranteed because of what educated unspecialised people of US cultural background believe to be "historically important", but also market reasons.

The Aztecs are there, but that wasn't gauaranteed. I hope the developers have realised that the Arabs are one of the most important civilizations in history and added them to the core, but the traditional western historical education marginalises them because of their location, culture and period of floruit (the understudied oriental middle ages).

I'm hoping we get the Sioux back. I don't think they are historically important or anything, I just want them in the game from nostalgia. :)
 
Well, look at what people complained about. There was nearly no complaining about the "Native American Empire" in BtS, but there is still, to this day, an endemic crisis of whining about the "Holy Roman Empire"
 
For that matter, why all the "maybe Mongolia" opinions? It was the second largest empire in Earth's history (next to the British Empire's height and by a long shot the largest contiguous empire), sported a huge degree of diversity, essentially revolutionized military organization and strategy, implemented a progressive law code (for the time), and fielded one of the most notorious, feared, and skilled armies the world has ever seen.

Oh yeah they're not white. Silly me. :p

Dude you know that last statement is completely not fair or accurate. There have always been plenty of non-white civs used from Civ I on up. Zulu, Mongolia, Egypt, China, Aztecs, and India have been in the series since the first game and are non-white. They've even added more over the years so saying their being prejudice is just wrong.

@Huayna Actually there has been alot of complaining about the NA title and I'm one of those that have complained about them not using Souix any more.
 
Well, look at what people complained about. There was nearly no complaining about the "Native American Empire" in BtS, but there is still, to this day, an endemic crisis of whining about the "Holy Roman Empire"

Understandably so I think. People have the civs they wanted ... and sure they can accept not getting it when something reasonable is selected in its place. But when what you get is just a second Germany civ with a misplaced leader (the HRE didn't properly begin until the mid-900s), you're likely to be less accepting ... ;)
 
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