Civilization III vs. Master of Orion III

UGO posted a <a href="http://gaming.ugo.com/games/default.asp/gameid,82" target=link>spotlight article</a> about the upcoming game Master of Orion III (which is being developed by Quicksilver Games) in its <a href="http://gaming.ugo.com/games/default.asp/gameid,82" target=link>UGO's 2001: A Game Odyssey</a> section. The article boldly proclaims that "MOO 3 could easily be a better game than Sid Meier’s next Civilization. All they need to do is fulfill their promises". They even go as far to say that Firaxis should adopt some new MOO3 concepts such as the 5th "X" (the 4X’s encompassing the typical strategy gameplay: eXplore, eXpand, eXploit and eXterminate, plus the new X: eXperience.) immediately. "It’s ironic that a game series originally described as a Civilization in space could very well become the strategy title that others use as a benchmark". Here are some more info on MOO3's 5th X:
<font size=1><UL><img src="http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3images/moo3_82.jpg" align=right border=1>In an attempt to reduce the micromanagement headaches that can occur a couple hundred turns in when players are managing dozens of worlds, Quicksilver has emphasized the player's role as the leader of an empire. While the empire is small, you can be more of a hands-on emperor, but as your empire grows, you’ll need to let AI-controlled leaders do what they feel is best. This is one part of Quicksilver’s "Fifth X" plan. These AI leaders are characters that players will encounter over and over again, and they can perform a variety of actions including governing a fleet, world or system. These leaders are instrumental in keeping your empire harmonious and, since players have a limited amount of Imperial Focus that they can use for direct intervention on a specific event, they can be kept in check without constant babysitting. [/list]</font>


MOO3 probably would be a great game, but I doubt it would be better than Civ3 after all the <a href="http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3infocenter.shtml">impressive stuff</a> already revealed about Civ3. Firaxis is taking Civiliation III a giant leap forward from Civilization II!

>> <a href="http://gaming.ugo.com/games/default.asp/gameid,82" target=link>Read the article</a>.

[This message has been edited by Thunderfall (edited June 29, 2001).]

master of the onion? sounds like a new rise of the robots.

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CIVILIZATION 3 will give a slap to all those games(from Sid or not).
e.g Master of Orion;age of empire;empire earth;the ctps;diablo etc etc etc

What can I say?

I agree with Damien.

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This a site for Civ. Let's talk about Civ, shall we? Anyway, both are fairly different games, so a comparison wouldn't have made much of a point esp when you go down to the actual game mechanics. Also, until both games are released there isn't much point to speculate on the finer points of which game is better too. Me? Will stick with Civ3 of coz.

Those guys at UGO are fools!!! What a load of baloney that is. After reading this I will never trust UGO as a reliable source. They obviously don't know what they are talking about.

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I'll go against you all but I partially support them. I have played and spent almost as many lost nights playing MOO as Civ.
In other words, that's not nothing. I really like the MOO concept too, although I admit the "feeling" was a bit colder. But it's unavoidable, since we don't play on a contiguous map but on planets separated by a lot of void.

Anyway, I don't think it's possible to compare those 2 games, it's nonsense. It's like comparing AoE to Starcraft. Although they belong to a same kind, they don't target the same custommers.

Conclusion: I hope MOO3 to be as good as the others one, like Civ3 will (and not might I'm pretty sure what I say) be as good as its glorious predecessors.
End of my spam. Sorry for off-topicing the Civ3 forum.

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I am looking forward to both games. I too have spent many nights playing MOO but Civ has always been my favorite. Sometimes I actually get sick of playing MOO and would rather do something else. As for the game being colder than civ, well it takes place in space what do you expect.

i've never heard of MoO before.... but now i guarantee i'm gonna buy it.

the game looks awesome!

the thing is though... i don't think it will even compete with CivIII. CivII is probably the best game ever... and civIII will be better. but i'm gonna buy both, because this MoO3 looks really cool too.

It's all in the implementation. If the so-called 5th X is well implemented.. it could indeed be a better game, but with an largely experimental concept like this...it's doubtfull.

Also.. you can bet that the people at UGO are probably of the mind that the faster the pace of the game.. the better.

I loved MOO 1 & 2 . and MOM ( Master of Magic ).. right along with CIv. I will buy them both.

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I don't see it as Civ3 vs MOO3. I love playing Civ2 (my favourite game) and am eagerly anticipating Civ3, but I will also buy MOO3 because I enjoyed playing the original MOO. The fact that one game is about building a galactic empire and the other a terran empire, and the different things that entails, makes them sufficiently different to enjoy both - and I intend too! <IMG SRC="http://forums.civfanatics.com/ubb/biggrin.gif" border=0>

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Originally posted by Sooner:
As for the game being colder than civ, well it takes place in space what do you expect.

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That's what I said too

And gar13, I thought useful to warn you. MOO is "special". Perhaps you won't like it, unless you're addicted to strategy. I admit it's not easy to play, contrary to Civ but once you got caught on it, you won't regret your purchase.

I'm looking forward to MoO3 myself, since I,ve spent many a late night playing MoO2. I'm partial to Civ, so I don't think that MoO3 will be better than Civ3. I imagine that it will be a good game, but I don't think it'll come anywhere near Civ3.

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I never even knew about the Moo series until this bulletin. How many of you have/do play it & how good is it?

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Listen, strange women lying around in ponds, distributing swords is no basis for a system government.

I play it. It's quite good.

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i think that my wallet will strech to getting both...so this debate is worthless.

They are different games and both are sequels to classic games!

gjts, for not knowing and never having played MOO you're condemned to the worst punishment: you must watch all the Star Trek saga without break. I know it's cruel. But how could you ignore this game? It's like being a fan of Sid and never play Civ. Ok, I admit that some people here only go and post a lot in OT but since you are not belong () to this category, I can hardly imagine you don't know this other masterpiece of Sid.

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I'm rather pessimistic about civ3...
First of all, people already say it will be the greatest game ever, and those kind of expectations can hardly fulfill themselves. It will probably be a good game, better than SMAC but not better than civ1 IMHO.
Secondly, too many "big caliber" games are to be released in the same time, civ3, moo3, war craft 3 (mmm kinda 3 theme). That is, civ3 will confront hard battles in sales, and it won't be a hugh success as its predecessors. That can be the end of the civ saga....

GenghisK, thanks a lot for the warning. I've been checking out the site a lot though, and it really is sweet-ass-sweet. Kind of a MUCH better SWRebellion (which i love). I also got that "starlords" game, and (especially for an 80's prototype game) it's freaking addictive! I know MoO3 will rock.

oh! and i'm NOT watching any "Star Wars Saga!" PERIOD!!!!!!!

Not that I dislike MOO or anything, but...

"Master Of Orion 3 Civilization Destroyed by Civ 3."