Minor Leaders

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Finished the list, finally. My apologies for taking so long. :lol:

Edit: Edited it a little, added a post explaining the Broken Compact leaders and any issues I see with the various leaders.

far_wanderer · May 31, 2009

You should add the civilopedia descriptions and any other relevant lore if you want us to suggest changes for duplicate traits. Right now all we have to go on are pictures

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I'm especially curious about Emma Vargamor, and why she's Agnostic.

Valkrionn said:
Only vanilla traits can be gained... One of the Sidar leaders DOES start with Charismatic, but that will probably be changed. Honestly, the main leader I'm worried about balance wise is for the Grigori... Prime Minister Esirce is Tolerant. Should be interesting.

The potential for Organized Jotnar seems mildly frightening as well.

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Haha, I would if they had them. Emma is actually from a werewolf civ mod, but I didn't touch her. So far this is all Notque's work. :lol:

That would be interesting, yes...... Also rather fun.

Opera · May 31, 2009

Broken Compact:

Random Infernal/Mercurian leaders will enter the game. Currently, the Infernals enter upon completion of the Demonic Pact ritual, which requires the Infernal Pact technology. This ritual can be completed by each civilization only once, and can only be completed 7 times for each of 7 Infernal leaders. The Infernals themselves are blocked from construction.

Eventually, the Mercurians will function in a similar way, with multiple Mercurian Gate wonders.

Huh. You beat me on this... You're releasing so fast :lol:

Now, everyone would think I stole things from you

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Haha, you've discovered my evil plan. :satan:

Added the bit of pedia text I have... Credits are on the 4th post.

Killer Clowns for Prime Minister Esirce, Kane, and Furia civilopedia entries
King of Lands for Athel civilopedia entry
Korias for Goodreau civilopedia entry

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Ugh. Found a bug already haha. Apparently the different Infernal leaders have their own hyborem clones... Only Hybie starts with the Gela. I was planning on adding that so it's fine, but I couldn't figure out why it kept crashing when the infernals came in. The game was trying to add a non-existent unit. :lol:

Planning on changing them to reflect the leader they're supposed to be... Leth should be a succubus, for example.

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Fixed, and the minor trait is working as well..... While I was testing I researched optics, got swashbuckling. :goodjob:

Jabie · May 31, 2009

Re: Weevil, Pickle and Hyde. Feel free to use the story "Slavery" for their background. You can find it in the stories thread in the Lore forum.

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Thanks, putting it in now. :goodjob:

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Added Opera's Mercurians. Fixed it so the Mercs will spawn when the Gate is built, one each time to a max of 4. The Mercs are able to summon each other, unlike with the Infernals.

WarKirby · May 31, 2009

able to summon each other? what?

I don't understand what you've done here.

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

The Mecurian Gate can be built up to 4 times, but only once per player. Each time it's built, a new Mercurian leader will spawn. Since each mercurian faction is a new player, they are free to build a new gate once they hit 3 cities, bringing in another Mercurian leader.

Ahwaric · May 31, 2009

I agree with opera, you are fast!

For Scions, I think Korinna can be changed to a minor leader. Scions are so centered around the emperor that she would be minor compared to him. But I wonder what Tarqueline would say...

If you like any of my minor leaders, feel free to use them. All are different than Notque's and I have added at least one minor for every civ that had none. I quite like some of them (what else - even, to loosely quote, 'the druidic version of Doviello'

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far_wanderer · May 31, 2009

Valkrionn said:
Haha, I would if they had them. Emma is actually from a werewolf civ mod, but I didn't touch her. So far this is all Notque's work.

That would be interesting, yes...... Also rather fun.

I wondered if that was the case with Emma, but she didn't have Lycanthropic, so I was confused.

The pedia text for Prime Minister Esirce is amazing, and will be even more hilarious if he turns out to be the overpowered leader.

How will multiple Mercurians and Infernals deal with souls? As in, if a relevant units dies, and there are three Infernals in the game, who gets a Mane?

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Eh, took me nearly 2 weeks to merge in the Mechanos. :lol:

Smaller things I merge in pretty quickly, though.

I'd like Tarq's opinion on that as well... Personally I don't think I like the idea much, but you're right, they're centered on the emperor.

I'll probably end up grabbing yours as well. :lol:

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

far_wanderer said:
I wondered if that was the case with Emma, but she didn't have Lycanthropic, so I was confused.

The pedia text for Prime Minister Esirce is amazing, and will be even more hilarious if he turns out to be the overpowered leader.

How will multiple Mercurians and Infernals deal with souls? As in, if a relevant units dies, and there are three Infernals in the game, who gets a Mane?

At the moment, all of them do. I'm not sure if I want to fix that, or leave it...

Also, the Mercs are officially working. I had an issue where Hyborem was leading them. :lol:

Forgot to change the name of the leader added to the list, as well as where it checks if that leader was ever in game.

Emma would have been Lycanthropic, but then she'd just be a Duin clone... so I kept her as Opportunistic.

And Esirce has one of my favorite entries. :lol:

I like Furia's as well.....

WarKirby · May 31, 2009

Does this mean there could be one massive mercurian faction?

I'd like to know what happens with souls too.

Valkrionn · May 31, 2009

Yes, yes it does. The Mercs are underpowered compared to the Infernals, so I'm okay with that.

And I believe I answered the soul question in the last post... As it currently stands, the Angels will go to ALL mercs, and manes will go to all Infernals. So if there should be 2 manes, but all 7 infernals are in, 14 manes will spawn, 2 for each. Not sure atm whether to leave it, or make them go to a random civ rather than all civs.

WarKirby · May 31, 2009

I think it makes them all a bit too powerful.

Personally, I think that when a unit dies, it should have only ONE soul. Either an angel or a mane appropriately. And randomly choosing between when both are valid (like a paladin with death magic)

Quetz · May 31, 2009

Some pic ideas

Mercurians:

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Infernal:

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Good elf:

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Svarts:

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A thoughtful Orc:

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Amurite or Kahd?

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Balseraph? (this pic was long before Batman XD)

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Bannor/Martial elohim/Mercurian female (cute!)

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Bannor/etc male:

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D'tesh?

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Lizards:

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Need resized and whatnot but nothing thats a big deal.

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Deity

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