I believe that CIV 6 will ultimately not be a worthwhile game because of the way firaxis/2k handled CIV 5. It is up to the playerbase to let them know we will not be okay with a bad product and will not support it.
Don't get me wrong: I love Civ5, it would be the perfect game for me.
But there are so massive problems with it that I feel are unaddressed or just dishonest. They are primarily the developer/publishers fault.
1. DLCs - DLCs are complete crap. Expansion packs I can live with... But G&K wasn't an expansion pack. You were just paying for something we had in Civ 4 already. DLCs are just there to make a quick buck. I've avoided games that have this kind of business model, but it seems to be infecting every game now (besides indie). Pay 5 bucks JUST to play babylon? Pay more to have my maps be more randomized? Wow really? And guess what, if I want to use babylon in multiplayer... I have to convince my friends to also buy it... just so I can use it against them.
2. Multiplayer, or lack of - The multiplayer of Civ 5 is broken and won't be fixed.
In its current state, There are a million bugs and the gameplay is laggy. MANY key features are missing, and there is no dedicated server support. It is very difficult to play multiplayer, and it is very difficult for me to accept that this is what they consider a "completed product".
3. Optimization - Just because Civ 5 is a turn based game... doesn't mean you can get away with not optimizing. Load screens in the middle of games.. Major lag between turns when there are more units in the late game.. This stuff should not be present in a complete high budget game from a well known studio like 2k/firaxis. Especially when you charge so much for it. The game can run much better than its current state.
4. AI - The AI is stupid, and does dumb things. Sometimes I think the barbarians have better war tactics than the actually AI Civs. After a few games, you learn to be able to predict everything the AI is going to do... Diplomacy is kinda pointless outside of trading... For example: I know that Rome will always try to backstab me... every game... Never changes.
It would be okay if I had a good multiplayer to play.... But not only is the multiplayer crummy, the singleplayer is also the same.. What am I suppose to play then?
The game has been out for ~4 years now, why are these still problems?
Now that the game is announced as "development complete", These problems will never be fixed and I think that we were left with an incomplete game. This game will not last the time test. Is that what I can expect from CIV 6? Another incomplete game that will only exist to sell DLCs and Map packs? If that is true then civilization is dead to me.
10 years ago, if a game company tried to bone its customers this badly... It would go out of business. Now it is accepted. What happened?
These are the problems I see with how they are making our game. I am sure that they will happen with CIV 6 aswell. Because once a developer goes down this path, it never changes... Unless the players do something about it.
I personally don't want CIV 6 to be just another game like something EA or activision makes. Dicuss how we can make the developers know that we wont' accept a broken and unfinished game from them again.
How many other players feel this way?
Don't get me wrong: I love Civ5, it would be the perfect game for me.
But there are so massive problems with it that I feel are unaddressed or just dishonest. They are primarily the developer/publishers fault.
1. DLCs - DLCs are complete crap. Expansion packs I can live with... But G&K wasn't an expansion pack. You were just paying for something we had in Civ 4 already. DLCs are just there to make a quick buck. I've avoided games that have this kind of business model, but it seems to be infecting every game now (besides indie). Pay 5 bucks JUST to play babylon? Pay more to have my maps be more randomized? Wow really? And guess what, if I want to use babylon in multiplayer... I have to convince my friends to also buy it... just so I can use it against them.
2. Multiplayer, or lack of - The multiplayer of Civ 5 is broken and won't be fixed.
In its current state, There are a million bugs and the gameplay is laggy. MANY key features are missing, and there is no dedicated server support. It is very difficult to play multiplayer, and it is very difficult for me to accept that this is what they consider a "completed product".
3. Optimization - Just because Civ 5 is a turn based game... doesn't mean you can get away with not optimizing. Load screens in the middle of games.. Major lag between turns when there are more units in the late game.. This stuff should not be present in a complete high budget game from a well known studio like 2k/firaxis. Especially when you charge so much for it. The game can run much better than its current state.
4. AI - The AI is stupid, and does dumb things. Sometimes I think the barbarians have better war tactics than the actually AI Civs. After a few games, you learn to be able to predict everything the AI is going to do... Diplomacy is kinda pointless outside of trading... For example: I know that Rome will always try to backstab me... every game... Never changes.
It would be okay if I had a good multiplayer to play.... But not only is the multiplayer crummy, the singleplayer is also the same.. What am I suppose to play then?
The game has been out for ~4 years now, why are these still problems?
Now that the game is announced as "development complete", These problems will never be fixed and I think that we were left with an incomplete game. This game will not last the time test. Is that what I can expect from CIV 6? Another incomplete game that will only exist to sell DLCs and Map packs? If that is true then civilization is dead to me.
10 years ago, if a game company tried to bone its customers this badly... It would go out of business. Now it is accepted. What happened?
These are the problems I see with how they are making our game. I am sure that they will happen with CIV 6 aswell. Because once a developer goes down this path, it never changes... Unless the players do something about it.
I personally don't want CIV 6 to be just another game like something EA or activision makes. Dicuss how we can make the developers know that we wont' accept a broken and unfinished game from them again.
How many other players feel this way?