Unique Unit Elimination Thread

-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 17
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 23
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 26
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 14
-Musketeer 16

I vote again for the musketeer
And i kill the panzer because it's a too late game UU

Next vote on Saturday...
 
-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 17
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 17
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 26
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 12
-Musketeer 16

crap wanted to save poor panzer but came some seconds to late.
 
Bob_ said:
crap wanted to save poor panzer but came some seconds to late.
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you wouldn't since he would have only 2 points that i would have gladly taken off...
I will continue to vote for the musketeer (if it's still alive tomorrow) and will vote aginst the ship of the line, megaboats are not that important to me
 
I wasnt able to save it all alone - thats true. Nevertheless, I was hoping there are more Panzer-supporters arround.
 
-Hoplite 7
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 18
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 26
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 12
-Musketeer 16
 
-Hoplite 5
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 18
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 21
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 27
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 12
-Musketeer 16
 
-Hoplite 5
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 12
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 18
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 25
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 27
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16
 
-Hoplite 5
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 10
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 18
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 26
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 27
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16
 
don't get why people vote for mohawk and jaguar ...
jaguar , jungle bonus is very very situational and the health through kills, there I would choose Janissaries
mohawk, wood/jungle bonus is situational.
But I would put them into the lower tier, even when having them upgraded later, it's not that superior imho....
 
NicTeos said:
don't get why people vote for mohawk and jaguar ...
jaguar , jungle bonus is very very situational and the health through kills, there I would choose Janissaries
mohawk, wood/jungle bonus is situational.
But I would put them into the lower tier, even when having them upgraded later, it's not that superior imho....
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Jaguar +2 Heal is VERY useful. And you will have this over the whole game, Sword, LS, Infantry, Mech Inf. Actually it is almost as useful as the Janicar as you will rarely need heal more than 2 after killing completly something. But even then it is usually good to attack, kill and not die from a counterattach from another unit.

Jungle strength is almost useless you are right about that but heal is made up for it.

I do not like mohawk either.
 
Bob_ said:
I wasnt able to save it all alone - thats true. Nevertheless, I was hoping there are more Panzer-supporters arround.
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Should I have understood sooner that voting for the janissary would only provoke negative reactions from samurai lovers (as fairplay as they were), I would have gladly voted for the panzer; now I have to wait 6 hours until I can try to save the hoplite instead (sorry sipahis). Oh man...:sad:
I think it is a very good unit, that suffers only from arriving so late in the game, and being German, which is probably the worst civ right now. 5 moves, 60 strength, moves after attacking and cheaper than mech infantry? Sign me in!
 
-Hoplite 5
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 8
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 15
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 18
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 27
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 27
-Samurai 27
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16
 
elprofesor said:
Should I have understood sooner that voting for the janissary would only provoke negative reactions from samurai lovers, I would have gladly voted for the panzer; now I have to wait 6 hours until I can try to save the hoplite instead (sorry sipahis). Oh man...:sad:
I think it is a very good unit, that suffers only from arriving so late in the game, and being German, which is probably the worst civ right now. 5 moves, 60 strength, moves after attacking? Sign me in!
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Actually, I like the Panzers too. I have a theory...

A lot of people play Civ to win, they're "solving a puzzle", and they get the typical problem-solving rush from it. Others play more to "build". They still get an aesthetic rush out of it, but the reward is a little longer-term and they'll actively avoid an early win.

It seems like the first type would weight a good early unit more heavily, because the "problem" isn't just to win, the rush comes from winning as soon (as early) as possible - while the second player type usually tries to stay out of wars until later. So, they'll appreciate a good late unit more (and get bitten by them more if they're fielded by an opposing civ.)
 
I would put sipahi at lower/middle tier. + Sight range, free pillage, are nice for some purposes, but it can't be upgraded...
Hoplites are nice at begin against an enemy who really relies on cav. They also have some more chances against swordsmen, but normally they become too fast obsolete and have no other advantage than +2 strength. It's nice, but not that useful. they can die after landsknecht ;). Maybe landsknecht should have already died instead of the panzers. Panzer makes tanks little bit useful.
 
Hoplite 5
-Panzer 0
-Landsknecht 8
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 13
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 18
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 27
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 28
-Samurai 27
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16
 
Hoplite 5
-Landsknecht 8
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 13
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 16
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 27
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 29
-Samurai 27
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16

Mohawk warrior is just as bad as Landschnekt and worse than the hoplite why is it still so high? Maybe because it does look cool?
 
-Hoplite 5
-Landsknecht 8
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 11
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 16
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 28
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 29
-Samurai 27
-Janissary 34
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16
 
Man vs Civ AI said:
-Hoplite 5
-Landsknecht 8
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 11
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 16
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 28
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 29
-Samurai 28 (+1)
-Janissary 32 (-2)
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16

No need for this to become a lopsided fight.
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-Hoplite 5
-Landsknecht 6
-Ballista 16
-Ship of the line 11
-Companion cavalry 17
-Minutemen 15
-Camel archer 21
-War elephant 21
-Mandekalu Cavalry 26
-Mohawk Warrior 16
-Cossack 23
-Immortal 24
-Legion 24
-Foreign Legion 22
-Jaguar warrior 22
-Longbowman 28
-Naresuan elephant 21
-Chu-Ko-Nu 29
-Samurai 28
-Janissary 33
-Sipahi 10
-Musketeer 16
 
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