How can I stay ahead in tech while going for a Cultural Victory?

CivAddict2013

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Hi, CivAddict2013 here. I've had this problem when I go for a Culture Victory. Now, when I go for a straight Science Victory I can easily get it. But when I go for a Culture Victory; I always seem to drop behind in tech.

So how can I balance Science and Culture?
 
Ignore culture, focus on science. Honestly, a cultural victory is just another form of science victory, you're just taking a different path through the tech tree. You should still be working all your scientist specialist slots, you should still be finishing the rationalism tree, and you should still be prioritizing science buildings, just you're also going to be rushing to grab archaeology quicker than usual, and then more or less beelining to the internet.
 
1. Do standard growth/science tech beeline to civil service / education. Avoid the top and bottom parts of the tree until after you have education, exception being bronze working to reveal iron / chop jungles and sailing for the easy trade route. Avoid optics as well unless you have a coastal city with at least 2 resources, again until after education.

2. Take advantage of science from trade routes if you're spawned near other civs. Get sailing and engineering asap and build markets in your bordering cities asap, this will entice trade from other civs.

3. Delay filling out your guild slots until you're a) working all your food tiles and b) working all your science specialists. The nature of great people accumulation is that your GPP's are worth the most at first and less and less over time, as each successive great work only gets you 2 tourism but costs you +100 gpp than the last one. Also, your theming bonuses will be easier to fill out if you start getting most of your great artists and musicians in the industrial age anyhow.

4. After you beeline education go STRAIGHT into acoustics so you can get the flat 10% beakers rationalism and then secularism shortly after. You're going culture after all so you will get a policy every 10 turns or so.

5. If you prioritize growth and beakers properly getting national college in the 80s and universities in the 110s, you WILL start to pull ahead in tech by the 130s or so. Then provided that you prioritize the mandatory wonders, you will have a great chance of being able to hard build them. Oracle, sistine chapel, uffizi, and broadway are relatively easy to get. Pisa and globe theater are much harder to get. Forget about great library and parthenon if you're playing higher diffculties.
 
Science is still King for Cultural victory.

This works well for me on Immortal if the capital has decent hammer production: (I don't even consider going for culture if production potential isn't good enough)

1. Standard Tradition opening. (2 or 3 city NC then get up to 4)
Don't bother with Great Library on Immortal

2. The usual post Philosophy back fill and then getting the tech for Colossums & Composite Bows

3. The usual Civil Service - Education beeline. Fill the science slots.

4. Printing Press beeline. (Along the way this picks up Workshop) Hand build Leaning Tower, use free GE for Globe. You should already have 2 writing works from the Classical Era to get the theming bonus.

5. Get the tech for Uffizini, you should be ahead enough in tech to hand build.

Your basically golden from there but Oxford can be used to get Radio very early. (Faith buy GE for Eiffel Tower)

Policies:

1. First full tradition (which will allow faith buying GE)
2. Start Aesthetics (opener and then top left as the first two)
3. When Rationalism is available, start that instead. (Top, then top left, the both right ones)
4. Complete both Aesthetics & Rationalism in the best order for that game (based on global happiness, which tech you want to be free, where you are on Uffizini, etc.)
5. Beeline to your tourism boosting polices within the tenet.
 
If you're lucky enough to get pisa then you should use the GE to get sistine and proceed to steam roll the other civs by like turn 240.
 
honestly if you get both of those wonders and compete even reasonably in military deterrence, victory is assured, so you can delete the pisa great person at that point and increase the challenge.
 
Use your Pisa GE for Oxford?

I met Globe. I've edited the above post.

Wouldn't it be better to use it for a WW since you're guaranteed to build Oxford--plus it's usually saved for a key tech like Radio?

See above for the correct wonder for the GE from Leaning Tower, but my Eiffel Tower for me comes from faith based GE. I actually enter Radio super early via Oxford.
 
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