HarmfulBus404
Chieftain
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- Jul 22, 2014
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To be clear: I was hoping for a sub-T200 victory here, and while I'll still probably win the game I'm wondering how some of you are able to get victories at absurd turns like 150, and on higher difficulties too!
Oh and I should mention before I start... This was a team game between a buddy and I, and three other AI teams. I have done this before single player though, and had similar results.
I knew I wanted to go ICS early cultural going into it.
It was literally a dream of a start. First city right in a desert with gold and lots of hills, and coastal. Lots of luxes and a Natural Wonder nearby. I was second to found a pantheon, but got Desert Folklore and Stonehenge which ensured me my choice of beliefs (founded + enhanced first) and absolute religious dominance throughout the game. At T206 now I'm churning out over 200 faith per turn, it's a bit absurd actually. I have more faith than I can spend, I've resorted to buying great prophets a few times just to build holy sites. I also picked up ceremonial burial (lots of cities = lots of happiness) and defender of the faith, in case I get invaded. I also got Oracle and Pyramids. Liberty -> Piety -> Aesthetics all fully filled.
Hiawatha has been wonder whoring the entire game and beating me by a few hundred points, but my army is even with his or stronger and my teammate also has a decent army. Right now he is the only cultural runaway - even with aesthetics fully filled out (+15% tourism), open borders, and a trade route (80% modifier total) my influence is still either falling or rising slowly - everyone else I am influential over.
Right now our plan is to just go decimate Hiawatha militarily and then I will have the cultural victory.
The problem is that I literally have nowhere else to expand to. I need more tourism (obviously) but that means more cities. I've had close to 40 positive happiness the entire game, I could settle 10 more cities and be fine, but there's no more land and I can't build more pagodas/mosques. I even conquered England (3 cities) and a city-state or two, and I don't have enough tourism. I'm faith-buying great artists/musicians/writers as fast as I can but they are starting to get ridiculously expensive (3k+ faith) It seems like I'm "plateauing" in terms of tourism output.
So the question is, how could I have won this game more quickly? Should I have just DOWed Hiawatha earlier when I saw that he was accumulating lots of culture?
I've also tried this strategy with Byzantium, even getting all three sacred sites buildings, and I always end up with a cultural runaway (or two). How do you stop this?
I can post screens if necessary.
Oh and I should mention before I start... This was a team game between a buddy and I, and three other AI teams. I have done this before single player though, and had similar results.
I knew I wanted to go ICS early cultural going into it.
It was literally a dream of a start. First city right in a desert with gold and lots of hills, and coastal. Lots of luxes and a Natural Wonder nearby. I was second to found a pantheon, but got Desert Folklore and Stonehenge which ensured me my choice of beliefs (founded + enhanced first) and absolute religious dominance throughout the game. At T206 now I'm churning out over 200 faith per turn, it's a bit absurd actually. I have more faith than I can spend, I've resorted to buying great prophets a few times just to build holy sites. I also picked up ceremonial burial (lots of cities = lots of happiness) and defender of the faith, in case I get invaded. I also got Oracle and Pyramids. Liberty -> Piety -> Aesthetics all fully filled.
Hiawatha has been wonder whoring the entire game and beating me by a few hundred points, but my army is even with his or stronger and my teammate also has a decent army. Right now he is the only cultural runaway - even with aesthetics fully filled out (+15% tourism), open borders, and a trade route (80% modifier total) my influence is still either falling or rising slowly - everyone else I am influential over.
Right now our plan is to just go decimate Hiawatha militarily and then I will have the cultural victory.
The problem is that I literally have nowhere else to expand to. I need more tourism (obviously) but that means more cities. I've had close to 40 positive happiness the entire game, I could settle 10 more cities and be fine, but there's no more land and I can't build more pagodas/mosques. I even conquered England (3 cities) and a city-state or two, and I don't have enough tourism. I'm faith-buying great artists/musicians/writers as fast as I can but they are starting to get ridiculously expensive (3k+ faith) It seems like I'm "plateauing" in terms of tourism output.
So the question is, how could I have won this game more quickly? Should I have just DOWed Hiawatha earlier when I saw that he was accumulating lots of culture?
I've also tried this strategy with Byzantium, even getting all three sacred sites buildings, and I always end up with a cultural runaway (or two). How do you stop this?
I can post screens if necessary.