TSG27 Game in Progress

This was some kind of a cruel joke wasn't it? -.-

One of the most aggressive bunch of AIs I've had, constant world war ever since turn 30 or so I did fine for a good while, got good production going, got both Stonehenge and Oracle so doing well culture-wise, got even a reasonable (for me) defense with a couple of archers and walls in Paris...and then Germany brought his 20 unit swarm D:

It was fun in its own way but...brutal!! I think I might try the same setup but a different map and see if it's any more bearable or if that's just basic Deity

Turn 205 for my game. I reached mass media on turn 190 but was beat to both Cristo Redentor and the Sydney by 4-5 turns and after using a GE on Cristo! I am in a world war: me Hiawatha and Suleiman against Arabia and Siam. My cities are free to all build units now so is going to be just turtle. 6 policies to go.

Turn 215, finally got Cristo - my objective for today. I did three cities, a lot of RAs and hurried for Telegraph and Radio - had it around turn 200.

The game is like cinema - I am at war with Siam, China and Germany from turn 40, Arabia and Ottomans on my side. Major battles between them ar on my land - so I am only watching it, just only fire from cities and garisson units.

So far I have full Liberalism, half Tradition, nearly whole Rationalism and first Freedom. Going to anarchy for Piety after while, but I do not think I have a chance to win. It is year 1500, Germany finished Manhattan project.

I need 14 more politics, it is about 200 turns to go. No chance to ally anu CS, all are at war with me.

trueblue said:

two cities.

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that's what I should have tried trueblue! I'm down to two cities now anyways

First city north on the Silver. Second City south west on the gold. But then I got too aggressive on expansion early on after winning a very early war with China. I put a third city near the cotton and spices north-east. really dumb. impossible difficult to defend against the Barbs+China+Siam
Fourth City was dumb too. I missed getting the two pearls city to Germany, and I had an RA with Germany. but then decided to put a city really to his pearls city to try to pick up the pearls he missed. He got annoyed, declared on me, I lost the RA, and the city. Then he sent waves of knights, landscnects, archers at me. I defended alright (my remaining two cities), but at turn 101 I'm in last place in 5 out of 8 Demographics, and below average on the other three. My allies (principally Hiawatha, but also the Ottomans and Ghandi) are also very weak.
Germany doesn't have any units I can see right now, but he has 3000+ gold. WTF?! how did he get so much gold? no one else has more than 1000.
I have no wonders. Culture is crawling. science is way behind. I'm think there's no hope of winning this thing at this point, but I may play it out to the end anyway.

One thing that surprises me is how few Wonders have been built so far (only three). I tried for Stonehenge but Hiawatha beat me to it. So I figured I may as well forget about the GLib. but at turn 101 nobody's built it yet! Only the Great Lighthouse (China) and the GW (Ottomans) have gone.

Arnold_T said:

So I figured I may as well forget about the GLib. but at turn 101 nobody's built it yet!

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Weird stuff. For my first try, the GL was gone at turn 51. I was tempted to build it for my 2nd run by i tried the same approach instead(no early wonders). Well i guess i made the good thing because this time the GL was gone at turn 32!

It's hard to get out the luck factor at Deity. More you play at high levels, more you will get weird random events.

not sure when it went for me but i had built a library and then mistakenly clicked the GL instead of the NC, realised a good few turns in and went for it. So it went reasonably late to me. total waste of early hammers ofcourse, on that library.. and that is why ive been playing Skyrim rather than this GOTM. I could have won this GOTM first play. messed up not burning a GS on museums when i was ready to choose the SP for free culture buildings. piety 33% choosen already and the Sistine built, wonders in both cities. it was only 9 or so turns but thats an awful lot late game. raging.

good news is that im really gripping warfare with the deity AI's slaughter attacks. or maybe germany is just concentrating on the others just now, he does have artillery...

a third city at the pearls for the mountain bottleneck is the way to go. obviously the second is down at the wheat able to grab the gold and gems.

Tabarnak said:

Weird stuff. For my first try, the GL was gone at turn 51...this time the GL was gone at turn 32!

It's hard to get out the luck factor at Deity. More you play at high levels, more you will get weird random events.

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I'm thinking maybe why the Glib hasn't gone yet in my game is because it seems like all the AIs are always at war with each other (as well as with me). Maybe they are too busy building units to put in an effort for the GLib?

I find something even more weird in my game. Suleiman is still at 0% litterature. Meaning that he hasn't discover writing yet. I'm currently at turn 160, will make an update at turn 180 later tonite...now gathering policies each 8-9 turns...way better!

Ha! I figured the game was lost, so just for kicks went for GLib starting at T102. Got it done in Orleans (my Gold city) in T112! Maybe this game can be turned around after all? doubt it, but also went and settled a third city south west of Paris around T109 by the Silver and Iron. Bismark had sent a lone unescorted settler there around T103 which I summarily captured with a chariot archer and promptly executed. I'm -2 unhappy now, but hopefully can fix that soon. Going for Oracle in Paris now. who knows, it might not go till T200 in this game!

It was the same for me I stared to build GL way too late, just because, there was nothing else useful to build, but no one built to so I actually used it for Civil service. Weird.

I am trying 3 city could not find any good 4th. I was dowed by Germany becuase I went to the pearl site (3 lux) far west to my capitol.

I build/bought 4 tirenme+3 sword (soo many iron..), and i will try to capture Berlin when 1-2 of my ships are double fire for even more lux and gold.

I am still peace with others.

My main fear is the Iroquois but he is also at war in Germany.

I also thing Siam will be unstoppable later as he is allying CSs like crazy and have room to expand. So I must win really fast.
But honestly I do not see myself win this

Just for the record I have started with Liberty but changed to Piety after 3 (worker first then settler)
I am not sure I will do an opera Trick with Tradition or go straight to Freedom for more and GA and double GA effect.

golem said:

Turn 215, finally got Cristo -lot of RAs and hurried for Telegraph and Radio - had it around turn 200.

So far I have full Liberalism, half Tradition, nearly whole Rationalism and first Freedom. Going to anarchy for Piety after while, but I do not think I have a chance to win. It is year 1500, Germany finished Manhattan project.

I need 14 more politics, it is about 200 turns to go. No chance to ally anu CS, all are at war with me.

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Currently at turn 221, got Cristo too. En route for sydney, 10 turns to go. 3 other cities are building units. Policies are pretty much that, excepted that i never been for rationalism. I finally made peace with Germany who killed my poor mother Hiawatha... Siam established his domination with Suleiman. This same sully suddenly declared war to me but i'm still waiting for a decent attack from him. My situation is pretty critical.

I still need 11 policies! I will finish around turn 330 so there is no way i can win this game. The AI begins to outtech me badly. I only have 2-3 RAs partners, Ghandi and Iroquois no longer exist. I can't follow anymore. Formivore's situation is what you want when you reach turn 200 or you gonna die if you didn't go for a massive domination game(which is nearly impossible because of Hiawatha, lakes, and hills around).

I will continue to see how much far i can go.

Tabarnak said:

I still need 11 policies! I will finish around turn 330 so there is no way i can win this game. The AI begins to outtech me badly. I only have 2-3 RAs partners, Ghandi and Iroquois no longer exist. I can't follow anymore. Formivore's situation is what you want when you reach turn 200 or you gonna die if you didn't go for a massive domination game(which is nearly impossible because of Hiawatha, lakes, and hills around).

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Absolutely agree. I did my best to turn 230, then all went wrong, finally lost the game by Science victory at 1845, still six policies missing.

I decide to chat and tried to run last 100 years three times - and what was interesting
- once Arabia dominated the world, 30000 Gold, huge army, when declared war to me I was dead in two turns
- second time Siam dominated with Army and Science
- third time the main power was Germany, hurried for science victory

The difference in my game was :
- first time I conquerd CS I was in war with
- second time I conquered Shanghai
- third time I was in peace at all.

I suggest to let all players to submit their best game this time, even with reloads. I am afraid we would have no submission at all. I can submit my defeat (with reloads) or retirement (before reloads) or nothing.

Deity is difficult, for sure. Even worse, it can be unpredictable as some of the write-ups have shown.

Please submit your first try, win or lose. We can compare reruns and the lessons we learn in the forum After Action thread.

Good Luck.

This is the first Deity game I've played in quite a while - I just don't like them, and now I remember why.

But I'm still alive at turn 145. I have 4 cities:

Paris I settled on the hill one tile east - with ND and HS
Dual-wheat Town - on the coast with the Colossus and Oracle
Three-sheep City - with AW and a GE-rushed PT
and Iron Mountain - settled west on the 6 iron plot with an GE-rushed Sistine Chapel

Been at war with Germany for almost the entire game. He ate my original Iron Mountain settler, but I quickly built a new one and guarded him on the way to establish that city.

RAs have kept me fairly up-to-speed in tech, thought checking now it looks like I might be falling behind a bit. Still no one in the Industrial Era and I'm closing in on Chemistry which will help with production and upgrading my trebs to cannons will be nice.

I have completed Liberty and Piety with the Tradition opener. I intend to use those on Museums. All opera houses are built and the Hermitage is 1 turn away in Dual-wheat Town.

Wu is gone. Ghandi seems to be getting pounded. He is the only AI under my score and with less military power than I. I have a friendship with Harun to the East and Hiawatha to the North. I'm hoping these hold out, because I have a pretty good defensive position against Bismark.

We'll see if my alliances collapse or if I get beat by somebody else's science/diplo victory.

I wonder what kind of sick mind came up with this map...
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t195. I am way behind in tech, but China, Ghandi and Germany are mostly out of the game.

Siam DoW at 154, 2 turns short of a RA. I should have reworked my tech, but didn't and lost lots of ground. Germany DoW a couple turns later. I took one little city from Siam in my area and spent 55g to get everyone else to DoW Siam. I took Berlin and Hamburg, sold Hamburg (4k) and annexed Munich (top corner pearls) to build some workboats and add more cashflow. Everyone wants pearls. Adding a culture specialist to Munich, it decreased my culture time.
I have 3 CS allies: Hanoi and 2 culture ones.

My social policies were poorly chosen and I see no way to victory, but I am playing it out anyway.
I have Friendships with Arabia, Sulemain and Hiawatha. They and Siam are all in modern. 3 cities and 3 puppets. I would try knocking of CS allies of Siam, but I think the diplo penalty would lead to my quick death. I am starting to skirmish with them to give Germany a better chance against Arabia.

...but it won't last long.

Do people actually enjoy playing deity? I just cannot believe the speed of wonder building. GL @ T31, Oracle @ T55 and CI @ T68, needless to say none by me although I did manage Stonehenge and Hagia S is under way, plus NC. And don't mention the flood of enemy units pounding on the gates. At constant war with Germany & China, but thankfully Hiawatha is keeping them partially in check.

I settled on the NW plains/river mainly because I dislike flood plains, but wanted to be by water. 2nd city 1 hex north of the 6 iron. I am spending too much time building a defensive army, but I am hoping 4 swords and 2 archers will hold out for now.

Last in pretty well everything. Money is the only good point and now I can sign some RA's and get an engineer for PT.

QuizMan said:

I just cannot believe the speed of wonder building. GL @ T31, Oracle @ T55 and CI @ T68, needless to say none by me although I did manage Stonehenge and Hagia S is under way, plus NC.

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Same thing happened to me in testing.

But, then you read this from above:

Arnold_T said:

Ha! I figured the game was lost, so just for kicks went for GLib starting at T102. Got it done in Orleans (my Gold city) in T112!

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While everyone was still at war I managed to pull off another Wonder, the Oracle in Paris (T124). woo-hoo! Culture Win Here We Come!
Also managed to turn the tables on Germany and take back my pearls city from the swine. So Hey, I'm back up to four cities again.
Germany sued for peace, and I took peace+500 gold from him since the Arabs were startng to swarm across the seas at me.
But then suddenly the game dynamics of EVERYONE-AT-WAR changed suddenly and PEACE started breaking out everywhere. (Except for the Arabs who just won't give up).
Once peace broke out the Wonders starting popping like crazy, and I'm now seeing wonders being built (like the Porcelain Tower) for which I don't even have the tech for yet.
But at least I'm no longer ranked in last place (the bad news though is my buddy Hiawatha is now in last place).
Germany is starting to build up units on my border. I guess war will break out there any turn now. Also having to defend against CS pikemen coming up to attack me from the south.
I think the Arabs may have run out of units for a while, so I'm thinking I'll go back at Germany and see if I can take another city off of him.

Paris nuked twice.

the sooner germany rolls over me the sooner i can submit the sooner i can replay.