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Wu Zetian?...it should be Qin Shi Huang or Tai Zong
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 05:20 AM #128
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No, I'm glad they chose Wu. She was a remarkably, very able woman. Under her, Cinese power, culture and finances flourished. I don't understand the opposition to her. Is it because she was a woman?
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 09:19 AM #129
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No, I'm glad they chose Wu. She was a remarkably, very able woman. Under her, Cinese power, culture and finances flourished. I don't understand the opposition to her. Is it because she was a woman?
No,she is definately a remarkable woman,but to represent the ancient history of china ,I think she is not suitable. Especailly now Civ 5 only gives one leader for each empire ,if there are two or more ,i don't mind give her a place
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Old Mar 16, 2010, 08:52 PM #130
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It seems the leader of China in CIV5 is very unsuitable as people have complained about it for 7 pages.
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 12:22 AM #131
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i don't mind having a Chinese leader a woman. its just more eye candy for us males. if they make her look good that is...
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Old Mar 17, 2010, 12:39 AM #132
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Male/female who cares? As long as the civ under her leadership feels different than the others, I will be happy.
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Old Mar 19, 2010, 10:16 AM #133
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Wu started as an emperor's concubine and must have been striking since she become so influential. On the other hand, she reigned until old age, so Firaxis can take it either way.
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Unread Mar 20, 2010, 08:43 AM #134
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I really dont see how Wu Zetian is a good choice for china's leader people have been talking about how remarkable it is for a woman to work her way to the top, but given the circumstances it really isn't.
Wu Zetian took the throne after usurping it from her own son, which isn't even that difficult considering she was regent at the time, and then ruled for 15 years before being overthrown a year before her death.
As for her actual reign, it has been used for propaganda as why woman can/cannot run a country so often it is difficult to say if she was actually a good leader or not, but it seems that her reign wasn't really remarkable one way or another.
To put it simply, the only thing that stands out about Wu Zetian is that she is a woman, and while that is somewhat remarkable I'd much rather play as someone who actually has some sort of historical contribution.
And maybe its just me, but personally I think its a greater achievement to rise from being a poor peasant to being emperor (Liu Bang/Han Gaozu, and Zhu Yuanzhong/Ming Taizu), than from being empress to being regent to being emperor.
Even if you wanted an atypical leader I would go with someone like Zhu Di (the Yongle Emporer) of the Ming dynasty, who is definitely a "different" choice but is very historically significant (his greatest achievement was overseeing Zheng He's expeditions, which is one of the great explorations of the time and done by a famously inwardly focused nation, but he also drove out the last remaining Mongols from China and annexed Vietnam as a province).
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Unread Mar 21, 2010, 12:34 AM #135
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I would say Wu Zetian is ok for being Chinese leader. Firaxis knows well about Mao, at least in civ3. Look at that Stalin head portrait behind Mao in modern era. I'm sure Mr. Chao made it for dear Mao.
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Unread Mar 21, 2010, 02:46 AM #136
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appearantly, Wu Zetian looks like the equilvalent of Victoria in Civ 4 or Catherine in Civ 3
http://www.weplayciv.com/node/193
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