COTM 4 quick game - spoiler thread

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This is the spoiler thread for the COTM 4 quick game. To qualify for this spoiler you must have played and submitted your game.

So...

Was their any wars? What wonders and improvements did you build? How much of an empire did you develop?
 
1625BC: Oracle
1250BC: The Great Library
1225BC: Library
1025BC: Mausoleum of Mausollos
725BC: Colosseum
530BC: 1011 Culture

Spoiler Turn Log :

First turn: Start building the Pyramids. Turn off research until we can buy Alphabet.

Barcelona is undefended! Attempt to renegotiate peace with Spain, but Isabella won't give me anything. Declare war on Spain.

2590BC: Raze Barcelona.
2590BC: Build Copan 2NW of capital. Build order: Worker x3, Javelin Thrower x3, Worker x2, Warrior x2
2430BC: Peace with Spain for Alphabet + Bronze Working + Warrior Code + 15g.
2430BC: Start research on Writing
2230BC: Contact Aztecs, trade Masonry + Ceremonial Burial for The Wheel + Warrior Code
2150BC: Trade Alphabet to Aztecs for Worker
1675BC: Pop rush Javelin Thrower in Copan
1650BC: Trade 15gpt to America for Mysticism + Worker
1650BC: Capital reaches size 12.
1650BC: Javelin Thrower built, declare war on Spain
1625BC: Oracle
1600BC: Golden Age begins



1500BC: Writing, start research on Philosophy
1500BC: Trade Writing to America for Mathematics + 9gpt + 94g
1500BC: Trade Writing to Aztecs for Iron Working
1450BC: Peace with Spain
1300BC: Philosophy, Literature, start research on Construction
1250BC: The Great Library
1250BC: Sacrifice 1 Warrior, 2 citizens, and 2 Javelin Throwers to short rush a Library
1225BC: Library
1025BC: Mausoleum of Mausollos
850BC: Celts build the Pyramids, breaking my Great Wall prebuild
750BC: Buy Construction from America, do some more sacrifices
725BC: Colosseum
530BC: 3rd border expansion
 
Here is my turn log
2630 Change to research MYSTICISM 100%
2550 Founds COPAN (4NW of Chitzen Itza, SW of river Silks)
2390 Meet Azteks
2390 Trade with Azteks: MASONRY+CERMONONIAL for 10gold+WARRIOR CODE+BRONZE WORKING
2070 Researched MYSTICISM
2070 Switch Pyramide prebuild to ORACLE
1830 Meet Iroquois
1830 Trade with Iroquois: Gives CERMONIAL BURY+MASONRY for 10 gold and THE WHEEL
1830 Trade with Spain: Gives THE WHEEL for ALPHABET and 20 gold
1725 Trade with Azteks: Gives ALPHABET for 50 gold+worker
1650 Trade with Azteks: Gives MYSTICISM for IRON WORKING
1650 Trade with America: Gives MYSTICISM for worker + 9 gold
1575 Trade with Iroquois: Gives MYSTICISM for worker and 20 gold
1450 The ORACLE is built
1450 Founds PALENQUE (2SW+SE of Chitzen Itza, W of spices)
1300 Researched PHILOSOPHY
875 Founds TIKAL (4NE+SE of Chitzen Itza)
825 Trade with Iroquois: Gives POLYTEISM for MATHEMATICS+50 gold for
825 Trade with Azteks: Gives POLYTEISM for WRITING and 7 gold
775 Founds YAXCHILAN (4SW of Chitzen Itza)
650 Research MONARCHY and revolt (three turns of anarchy)
650 Switch Temple of Artemis prebuild to THE HANGING GARDENS
650 GOLDEN AGE starts
650 Realize that I have forgotten about the PHILOSOPHY free tech
650 Chitzen Itza reach size 12
550 Research PHILOSOPHY but get no free tech.
490 The Hitties build the Great Library
490 Sumeria build the Temple of Artemis
470 Azteks attacks (demans PHILOSOPHY and doesn’t get it)
430 Research LITTERATURE
430 Hurry LIBRARY for 188 gold
410 Trade with Iroquois: Gives PHILOSOPHY for CONSTRUCTION+120 gold
350 Builds COLLOSEUM
330 Research CODE OF LAWS
250 Aztek town Tamuin Destroyed
210 Peace with Azteks
210 Trade with Azteks: Gives PHILOSOPHY+LITTERATURE for MAP MAKING
210 Meet Byzantines - with a "suicide curragh" – but they are way behind in technology
190 Research CURRENCY
190 Gift Byzantines all mandatory technologies available, but cannot trade MONOTEISM that they got for free
110 The Chitzen Itza Culture is over 1000

Summary:
It was great fun and I learned a lot (especially when I compared my log with DaveMcW’s log – thank you Dave for your comments).
I guess I built to many cities (I thought I needed it for research) and I did not get Chitzen Itza population up to size 12 quick enough. The idea to revolt to MONARCHY was probably the biggest mistake though?! It took too much time too late in the game.
I am also a bit embarressed :blush: over that I forgot about the free Philosophy tech. Maybe I played it too quick (it took about two hours) in order to switch over and learn more about to the newly bought CIV IV?!:confused::)
 
Don't feel too bad. It took me until 90BC. I also tried expanding.

I also thank DaveMcW for his description. The only question I have for you is in regards to "1675BC: Pop rush Javelin Thrower in Copan". I tried things your way and after three successive workers, Copan was only a size 1. What tiles were you working, etc? And how come you built copan 2 tiles to the NW instead of three so as to take advantage of the luxury? Sorry for all the questions.

One more general question.. What was the difficulty setting of this game?
 
I tried things your way and after three successive workers, Copan was only a size 1. What tiles were you working, etc? And how come you built copan 2 tiles to the NW instead of three so as to take advantage of the luxury? Sorry for all the questions.
I would assume to share the wheat for the workers, and thats why it grew quicker. An excellent idea.

I finished in 330 BC, losing the Oracle and MoM in cascades after building Pyramds and fighting a war with the Aztecs with a total military of 2 warriors and 2 jav throwers.

Built:

Libary 1225
Pyramids 1300
Great Library 875
Colosseum 775?
Great Wall 450
 
After i built the pyramids, i lost 2 wonders by 5 turns, neither time with a wonder to cascade to. reached 1000 culture in 190 AD. accidently submitted a save at 100 culture. I'll read the aim 9 or 10 times next time, so as not to make the same mistakes.
 
Didn't see this until after submissions were closed but played it anyway. I didn't play this as if the game was over after 1000 culture, but as if this was a snapshot of the first period in a 20k culture game.


Spoiler :

2630 BC Chichen switched to Pyramids
0.10.0 Mysticism (24)
2590 BC founded Copan, building warrior then worker
2550 BC Chichen (4)
2190 BC Chichen (6)
2150 BC connected Silk
2070 BC researched Mysticism
Chichen switched to Oracle
0.10.0 Writing (22)
1910 BC Chichen (7)
1600 BC Chichen completed Oracle, building Pyramids
1575 BC founded Palenque, building warrior
1425 BC connected spices
1400 BC researched Writing
0.10.0 Philosophy (14)
1175 BC Chichen (10)
1075 BC Chichen (12)
1050 BC researched Philosophy
researched Literature
Chichen (12)
0.7.3 Code of Laws (20)
950 BC completed Great Library
925 BC Math and Horseback from Great Library
900 BC completed library
670 BC completed Mausoleum of Mausollos
670 BC researched Code of Laws
founded Tikal
490 BC Construction from Great Library
370 BC expansion 1017 culture



I hadn't used my golden age yet, and researched towards republic figuring to advance the MA with the Great Library and then starting my golden age to help those early wonders. Thats what I would do in a 20k game.
 
I´m sorry I could not play this game before the deadline, but unfortunately COTM 18 kept me busy. I guess the next QG might suffer the same fate, as next month´s COTM is sid-level.

Anyways, I still enjoyed it. My finish in 330 BC does not seem to be a top-result though.

Build order was Warrior, Oracle (1475 - I had research Myst in order to trade for Alphabet), MoM (1125), Library (1025), The Great Library, Hanging Gardens (370) and Colosseum (370 - yeah I whipped it!)

It was too late that I realized the power of the UU, so my GA started in 710 BC only. I could have saved a lot with an earlier GA.
 
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